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    what's the opinion on MT cookies? I want something to take away on holiday with me as whilst we're going all-inclusive, there's not huge options in the way of protein intake at the hotel that isn't meat-based during the day.
    Took some with me when I went to Mexico with me. They came through in the clutch on the way home. Had breakfast that morning at 9am and wasnt able to eat again til i got back in town 830 that night. Only thing my wife and I were able to eat were 2 of the cookies which definitely helped up out alot. i enjoyed the peanut butter chip one but my favorite was the birthday cake flavor
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    DAMN YOU PES for all those fake fibers & sugar alcohols! Looks like ill stack to candy bar + scoop of protein (better on my stomach)

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    Originally Posted by Aspiringathlete View Post
    DAMN YOU PES for all those fake fibers & sugar alcohols! Looks like ill stack to candy bar + scoop of protein (better on my stomach)
    You could use the calories anyway
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    You could use the calories anyway
    Post on that coming soon - looks like your right tho but could use an opinion

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    My Brother had a kid today, I have another Niece now.
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    I have been using a lot of rest pause lately. Along with slower controlled movement, I am seeing less strain on prior issues and strength growth even through this diet. I am pushing extra reps out which I will turn into small weight increased week over week.
    Love this. Back to squatting after tweaking the back a few weeks ago, and I've taken this approach. Same w deads. It actually feels great and I anticipate it will be a great way to push past some strength plateaus.
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    You could use the calories anyway
    lol play nice

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    Post on that coming soon - looks like your right tho but could use an opinion
    It just takes a switch in your mind frame man. I know it can be difficult to wrap your head around the idea of eating more when you feel you have fat to lose...I've been there...I recall you saying you thought you were "skinny fat"? IMO the last thing a "skinny fat" person should be doing is dieting. The focus should be better food sources and eating for muscle mass. My two cents dude. I was once in your boat.
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    Hopefully they dont' compare...did not like cotton candy bang at all
    Whaaatt! Well now I hate to admit, but the cotton candy bang is in top 3..does this mean my tastes are broken too?
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    Looks like I infact do distort my body image a bit. I don't know my BF - maybe 13%, maybe 17% lol. I do know that I still feel puffy in my nipples & love handles and that when I bulk & gain weight most of it goes there. The only successful bulk I've run was when I got down to like 156 & had abs (not thick but you could see them) up to 172 before I got hurt. So I wasn't always this small.

    6'0 163-165 is my official weight. My waist is right around 30" but its hard to measure with some of the fat around it.

    I'm at a loss of what to do. I don't want to bulk & then feel fat again. Like I said - most of the best transformations I see are from fat to ripped or from skinny(LEAN) to big. I'm in the middle. I don't respond bad to carbs BUT I gain weight & fat easily. Receptive to any criticism (Yes I do lift but as I said missed some time over the past year due to an injury & pain - almost fully recovered but have to train differently now & smarter)




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    you don't look fat at all my man, you just look like a dude who needs to be comfortable with gaining weight in order to recomp. Muscle mass would do you a world of good man. You'll gain fat throughout the process, but it's necessary. If you give yourself some time to really put on muscle mass before trying to lose any fat, the long term payoff will be very worth it.
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    Originally Posted by Aspiringathlete View Post
    Looks like I infact do distort my body image a bit. I don't know my BF - maybe 13%, maybe 17% lol. I do know that I still feel puffy in my nipples & love handles and that when I bulk & gain weight most of it goes there. The only successful bulk I've run was when I got down to like 156 & had abs (not thick but you could see them) up to 172 before I got hurt. So I wasn't always this small.

    6'0 163-165 is my official weight. My waist is right around 30" but its hard to measure with some of the fat around it.

    I'm at a loss of what to do. I don't want to bulk & then feel fat again. Like I said - most of the best transformations I see are from fat to ripped or from skinny(LEAN) to big. I'm in the middle. I don't respond bad to carbs BUT I gain weight & fat easily. Receptive to any criticism (Yes I do lift but as I said missed some time over the past year due to an injury & pain - almost fully recovered but have to train differently now & smarter)



    Age? Unless I missed it.

    Bulk up. Lift heavy, HEAVY! It takes time but you can and will grow. Clean bulk or just eat slightly above maintenance and slowly add muscle. BUT I will say I feel the same as you. I eat above my calories and feel fat around the middle and other fat areas. Eat under and feel actually great until I hit the wall and energy is gone and don't recover.

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    I started back puffier/fatter than that after my hernia; just eat and lift, grow. You're in a great position to add mass right now. You're not fat at all, just skinny.
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    Age? Unless I missed it.

    Bulk up. Lift heavy, HEAVY! It takes time but you can and will grow. Clean bulk or just eat slightly above maintenance and slowly add muscle. BUT I will say I feel the same as you. I eat above my calories and feel fat around the middle and other fat areas. Eat under and feel actually great until I hit the wall and energy is gone and don't recover.
    Oh I'm 25. The thing is the HEAVY lifting isn't a total no-no but I have to tread very carefully given my injury... I mean research shows for hypertrophy there really is no bonafide rep range - but most of my lifts will likely be in the 6-15 rep range.

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    Originally Posted by Aspiringathlete View Post
    Oh I'm 25. The thing is the HEAVY lifting isn't a total no-no but I have to tread very carefully given my injury... I mean research shows for hypertrophy there really is no bonafide rep range - but most of my lifts will likely be in the 6-15 rep range.
    For hypertrophy you just need adequate stimulus; so reps or weight can factor that in, you are correct that 'heavy' is not needed.
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    I'm not quite at Gbullock status but I started tracking calories again and I've been at ~ 3,300 calories for the past few weeks and weight gain has stopped at 192lbs. I legitimately don't know how some of you eat 5,000 calories daily

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    I’d go with PES Select PBC as well. Tried the MyoFeed Vanilla PB2 because everyone was saying it tasted like a butterfinger. Let’s just say I was highly disappointed and ended up giving half of my tub away.
    Also another for peanut butter cookie. It tastes exactly like the name.

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    For training discussion,

    I have been using a lot of rest pause lately. Along with slower controlled movement, I am seeing less strain on prior issues and strength growth even through this diet. I am pushing extra reps out which I will turn into small weight increased week over week.
    I have been getting into these for movements like close grip bench and OHP, primarily on the smith because I like how slow I can go on it.

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    what's the opinion on MT cookies? I want something to take away on holiday with me as whilst we're going all-inclusive, there's not huge options in the way of protein intake at the hotel that isn't meat-based during the day.
    I haven't had them in awhile but I do enjoy them. Make sure to nuke for a few seconds to make them gooey.

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    you don't look fat at all my man, you just look like a dude who needs to be comfortable with gaining weight in order to recomp. Muscle mass would do you a world of good man. You'll gain fat throughout the process, but it's necessary. If you give yourself some time to really put on muscle mass before trying to lose any fat, the long term payoff will be very worth it.
    This, you're starting a little heavier and less lean than I did but you're still in the perfect position to put some mass on. Bulk for several months before you consider cutting down.
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    all about that white chocolate raspberry :P
    Calcium caseinate as the first protein ingredient on the label?

    What?

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    Looks like I infact do distort my body image a bit. I don't know my BF - maybe 13%, maybe 17% lol. I do know that I still feel puffy in my nipples & love handles and that when I bulk & gain weight most of it goes there. The only successful bulk I've run was when I got down to like 156 & had abs (not thick but you could see them) up to 172 before I got hurt. So I wasn't always this small.

    6'0 163-165 is my official weight. My waist is right around 30" but its hard to measure with some of the fat around it.

    I'm at a loss of what to do. I don't want to bulk & then feel fat again. Like I said - most of the best transformations I see are from fat to ripped or from skinny(LEAN) to big. I'm in the middle. I don't respond bad to carbs BUT I gain weight & fat easily. Receptive to any criticism (Yes I do lift but as I said missed some time over the past year due to an injury & pain - almost fully recovered but have to train differently now & smarter)

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    Age? Unless I missed it.

    Bulk up. Lift heavy, HEAVY! It takes time but you can and will grow. Clean bulk or just eat slightly above maintenance and slowly add muscle.
    This. Learning to eat is a huge part of the equation as well.
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    Originally Posted by danielmoo View Post
    This. Learning to eat is a huge part of the equation as well.
    I know how to eat Thats how I got to 260....(before fitness lol)

    But I know what you mean - contrary to how it looks im equipped with a lot of knowledge & tick most boxes - my problem is with body image & always wanting to get lean. Plus like I said knowledge of insulin sensitivity/nutrient partitioning with higher body fats. Plus it's really hard to know my BF. I think 15-17% may be accurate.

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    Originally Posted by Aspiringathlete View Post
    I know how to eat Thats how I got to 260....(before fitness lol)
    Haha touché.. knowing how to eat sounds a lot more simple than it is. Eating for your specific fitness/muscle goals
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    Originally Posted by Aspiringathlete View Post
    I know how to eat Thats how I got to 260....(before fitness lol)

    But I know what you mean - contrary to how it looks im equipped with a lot of knowledge & tick most boxes - my problem is with body image & always wanting to get lean. Plus like I said knowledge of insulin sensitivity/nutrient partitioning with higher body fats. Plus it's really hard to know my BF. I think 15-17% may be accurate.
    Originally Posted by danielmoo View Post
    Haha touché.. knowing how to eat sounds a lot more simple than it is. Eating for your specific fitness/muscle goals
    Ya, he didn't mean "know how to eat" as in "eat everything in sight" lol Know how to eat for your goals.
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    Originally Posted by Aspiringathlete View Post
    I know how to eat Thats how I got to 260....(before fitness lol)

    But I know what you mean - contrary to how it looks im equipped with a lot of knowledge & tick most boxes - my problem is with body image & always wanting to get lean. Plus like I said knowledge of insulin sensitivity/nutrient partitioning with higher body fats. Plus it's really hard to know my BF. I think 15-17% may be accurate.
    The short of it, IMO, is that you need muscle.

    You aren't fat, you are skinny.

    Eat and lift and sleep and repeat
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    The bbcom store hasn't been working right for me for nearly a week. Anybody else?

    I can't even get the main site to load at all right now. Before it would spaz out when I tried to edit my cart or make an order (so I never did...)...can't even get close now
    Clear your cache in Chrome. It won't load if there is too much in your cache for whatever reason. I have to do it periodically to make the site work.

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    Originally Posted by masterg20 View Post
    Clear your cache in Chrome. It won't load if there is too much in your cache for whatever reason. I have to do it periodically to make the site work.
    Still won't load. Went elsewhere anyway since you know their websites work
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    Originally Posted by Farley1324 View Post
    Still won't load. Went elsewhere anyway since you know their websites work
    Works fine for me in Chrome, didn't clear cache or anything.
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    Like others said, you need to add more muscle (as you already know). And honestly that comes with lifting consistently. I have said it over ... and over ... and over ... and over on here and it's the absolute truth. Be consistent in everything you do. You don't need to eat perfectly, you don't need to train every single day of the week, you don't have to look for that "perfect" training program (because it doesn't exist) you just need to be consistent.

    If your going to train 4 days per week, then make sure you train 4 days per week. Not 7 one week and then 1 time the next. Train 4 days per week for a couple of months and adjust as needed. Same with diet, eat right (on a plan) a couple of days, one day add something else in, then go back to being consistent on your calorie intake, etc.

    If you ever take notice the blowhards in the gym is the guy going "well next week I'm going to try ..." or you don't see a guy for 6 months and then you see him and he goes "Well, yeah now I'm going to get more serious ..." and honestly those guys never get anywhere. Meanwhile I'm the guy in the gym every morning at 5 AM not talking about what I'm going to do or what I did, just in there doing my workout because consistency is KEY.






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    Originally Posted by compan View Post
    I will give that PBC Select bar a shot when it comes out. I hope the texture on it delivers.
    It does. 100%.

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    Calcium caseinate as the first protein ingredient on the label?

    What?

    Pls explain, PES.
    Try it and you'll see why
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    Originally Posted by Big_Spaz View Post
    Like others said, you need to add more muscle (as you already know). And honestly that comes with lifting consistently. I have said it over ... and over ... and over ... and over on here and it's the absolute truth. Be consistent in everything you do. You don't need to eat perfectly, you don't need to train every single day of the week, you don't have to look for that "perfect" training program (because it doesn't exist) you just need to be consistent.

    If your going to train 4 days per week, then make sure you train 4 days per week. Not 7 one week and then 1 time the next. Train 4 days per week for a couple of months and adjust as needed. Same with diet, eat right (on a plan) a couple of days, one day add something else in, then go back to being consistent on your calorie intake, etc.

    If you ever take notice the blowhards in the gym is the guy going "well next week I'm going to try ..." or you don't see a guy for 6 months and then you see him and he goes "Well, yeah now I'm going to get more serious ..." and honestly those guys never get anywhere. Meanwhile I'm the guy in the gym every morning at 5 AM not talking about what I'm going to do or what I did, just in there doing my workout because consistency is KEY.






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    It does. 100%.



    Try it and you'll see why
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    It does. 100%.

    Try it and you'll see why
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