2017-2018 Orders Part 4: 12 Scoops of Protein, Manlets and Sprinkled Doughnuts

[Misctake7]

Thoughts on the NTel Pharma AREZ God of the Gym pre?

I will let you know by the end of the week. I'm grabbing a scoop when I go into work later today. I'm either taking for leg day tomorrow after work(doesn't seem like a good idea because I'd like to go to bed 3ish hours after my workout) or Thursday for my push workout which is earlier in the day(likeliest time I'll take it). I'll post up thoughts Friday or Saturday.

[TrainerTone]

Recently had a scoop of Nutrabio Pumpkin Pie and was surprised. I really liked it. Likely couldn't drink every say but the pumpkin wasn't crazy strong like all the other attempted pumpkins I've had. I'd say it was smooth and full of flavor.

I've pretty much enjoyed all the flavors of Classic Whey that I've had the pleasure of trying. My fav is Pina Colada for sure though.

C4U vs Dymatize?

Also, where you boys grabbing your C4U?

Haven't had Dymatize Pre but I really do enjoy C4U. Been mixing it with a scoop of of NO3 Chrome and the pumps have been sick. Energy is good, non jittery and sustained throughout the entire workout.

[OT2000]

Thoughts on the NTel Pharma AREZ God of the Gym pre?

All hype

[crpav]

All hype

So pass then?

[kbayne]

So pass then?

Pass, shoot, brick

[dougefresh93]

So pass then?

HyperMax looked better, from my recollection

[BenBlue]

HyperMax looked better, from my recollection

Like me some HyperMax and the reformulation is on point

[Misctake7]

Well I grabbed 2 tubs of Reign for ~$35 shipped, so we will see how it is. Only had 2 flavor options so it's ISee Fury and Dragons Mist.
Also grabbed some Kaged Citrulline. Dante Trudel reading just reinforced how amazing of an ingredient citrulline is performance and general health wise.

[gbullock32]

Well I grabbed 2 tubs of Reign for ~$35 shipped, so we will see how it is. Only had 2 flavor options so it's ISee Fury and Dragons Mist.
Also grabbed some Kaged Citrulline. Dante Trudel reading just reinforced how amazing of an ingredient citrulline is performance and general health wise.

I think you will like Re1gn a lot, those juicy pumps are amazing.

[Jammer02xd]

Well I grabbed 2 tubs of Reign for ~$35 shipped, so we will see how it is. Only had 2 flavor options so it's ISee Fury and Dragons Mist.
Also grabbed some Kaged Citrulline. Dante Trudel reading just reinforced how amazing of an ingredient citrulline is performance and general health wise.

Where’s that reign deal

[Misctake7]

Where’s that reign deal

Check CP

Just sitting here waiting for a bunch of orders from last week/weekend like it's Christmas.
Still feeling mildly brain dead and burnt out from last nights deadlifts and working all day today. Waiting for work to be over so I can just walk on the treatmill for an hour, eat, and crash.

[TrainerTone]

Well I grabbed 2 tubs of Reign for ~$35 shipped, so we will see how it is. Only had 2 flavor options so it's ISee Fury and Dragons Mist.
Also grabbed some Kaged Citrulline. Dante Trudel reading just reinforced how amazing of an ingredient citrulline is performance and general health wise.

Nice pickup brother!! Also really like Citrulline as well. How you dosing it??

[BenBlue]

Well I grabbed 2 tubs of Reign for ~$35 shipped, so we will see how it is. Only had 2 flavor options so it's ISee Fury and Dragons Mist.
Also grabbed some Kaged Citrulline. Dante Trudel reading just reinforced how amazing of an ingredient citrulline is performance and general health wise.

Hope you like it dude!

[Misctake7]

I know most here likely don't care but figured I'd throw out some notes on different things I'm thinking/planning during this reverse into a bulk(typing it out helps keep it in my head....maybe I should keep a log besides my workout log)......

-Protein intake will likely get to the highest it's ever been. Previous high I believe I've gone was around 375g daily. Wouldn't be surprised if I take this run to 400g or more. Hopefully thermogenesis at its finest.
-Carbs will remain moderate to high and only around the workout parameter with fats kept to a minimum during these meals. Last bulk, my digestion went to sh!t because fats crept up and slower digesting sources were thrown in post workout. Primarily sticking with super easy digestible sources. Less protein cookies, bars, and "junk"(ice cream, pop tarts, baked goods, processed foods).
-Fats will be kept lower on training days, even with meals away from workouts. Higher fats on rest days although calories in general on rest days will be kept lower. Stomach and digestion need to be given a break on these days and this is my effort to keep bodyfat levels in check. 1 carb meal might be added to rest days if performance drops at any point as calories get higher.
-1 hour of walking incline on the treadmill on rest days. Training days will either have morning or post workout walking for 20-30mins.
-Lots of emphasis on health and anti-inflammatory supplements. As calories progress and training gets more intense, double doses of some anti-inflammatory supplments. Drastic increases in weight even over several months is unhealthy. So might as well try and stay as healthy as possible during this process.
-Rest days for sure when I work both jobs(every Tuesday). Otherwise all rest days are auto-regulated. I LOVE training and have a hard time sometimes taking rest, but as I recall my last run with PPL with high intensity, my body will burn out and ache and force me to take rest. Trying to be smart about it.
-Rotate exercises out when stalling for 2 workouts unless external factors played a role(lack of sleep, stress, mood). The goal of beating the log book on a workout to workout basis is still my main priority.
-I want to keep body fat levels as in check as possible but I'm perfectly fine adding some soft weight. It's part of the process.
-Completely undecided on if I'll take deloads, several days in a row off, or just "devolume" my workouts. I'm leaning towards "devolume" and do 1 heavy all out set for each exercises and no back off sets on a week like this, but I'm so thick headed I might catch myself trying to do more and spend more time in the gym than I should.
-When body fat looks to be increasing at a faster rate, take a short 2-4 week re-sensitizing period of dropping a good amount of carbs, increase cardio and dropping a few pounds. Then back to hammering on the gas.


Funny how my goal 1.5 years ago was downsizing from the 225lbs I was and really pulling away from long workouts. I suppose women can influence decisions like that lol. I can honestly see myself getting up to the ~270lb mark depending how my body holds the weight and even though I don't track calories, I can see getting to upwards of 6-7k at the top end.

Nice pickup brother!! Also really like Citrulline as well. How you dosing it??

I like taking around 3g right away in the morning.
No matter what my pre workout shake has, I add an additional 2g.
Intra workout I add an additional 2g. If Raging Full is my intra, I don't need to add any because it already has it in.
I have been toying with the idea of adding 2g post workout but that isn't as cost effective imo. So likely not adding post workout but I'm thinking about it.

Hope you like it dude!

I'm very sure I will as well. I liked the energy I got from it the 1 time I tried it in the past. Those cold sweats just took my focus away. Wish I had more flavor options but then again, flavor is never the driving factor in ordering a pre.

[Jammer02xd]

Check CP

Just sitting here waiting for a bunch of orders from last week/weekend like it's Christmas.
Still feeling mildly brain dead and burnt out from last nights deadlifts and working all day today. Waiting for work to be over so I can just walk on the treatmill for an hour, eat, and crash.

Got it. Getting in on that come Friday.

Going to see how much glycofuse is there too. The river has the best price so far from what I’ve seen.

[BenBlue]

I know most here likely don't care but figured I'd throw out some notes on different things I'm thinking/planning during this reverse into a bulk(typing it out helps keep it in my head....maybe I should keep a log besides my workout log)......

-Protein intake will likely get to the highest it's ever been. Previous high I believe I've gone was around 375g daily. Wouldn't be surprised if I take this run to 400g or more. Hopefully thermogenesis at its finest.
-Carbs will remain moderate to high and only around the workout parameter with fats kept to a minimum during these meals. Last bulk, my digestion went to sh!t because fats crept up and slower digesting sources were thrown in post workout. Primarily sticking with super easy digestible sources. Less protein cookies, bars, and "junk"(ice cream, pop tarts, baked goods, processed foods).
-Fats will be kept lower on training days, even with meals away from workouts. Higher fats on rest days although calories in general on rest days will be kept lower. Stomach and digestion need to be given a break on these days and this is my effort to keep bodyfat levels in check. 1 carb meal might be added to rest days if performance drops at any point as calories get higher.
-1 hour of walking incline on the treadmill on rest days. Training days will either have morning or post workout walking for 20-30mins.
-Lots of emphasis on health and anti-inflammatory supplements. As calories progress and training gets more intense, double doses of some anti-inflammatory supplments. Drastic increases in weight even over several months is unhealthy. So might as well try and stay as healthy as possible during this process.
-Rest days for sure when I work both jobs(every Tuesday). Otherwise all rest days are auto-regulated. I LOVE training and have a hard time sometimes taking rest, but as I recall my last run with PPL with high intensity, my body will burn out and ache and force me to take rest. Trying to be smart about it.
-Rotate exercises out when stalling for 2 workouts unless external factors played a role(lack of sleep, stress, mood). The goal of beating the log book on a workout to workout basis is still my main priority.
-I want to keep body fat levels as in check as possible but I'm perfectly fine adding some soft weight. It's part of the process.
-Completely undecided on if I'll take deloads, several days in a row off, or just "devolume" my workouts. I'm leaning towards "devolume" and do 1 heavy all out set for each exercises and no back off sets on a week like this, but I'm so thick headed I might catch myself trying to do more and spend more time in the gym than I should.
-When body fat looks to be increasing at a faster rate, take a short 2-4 week re-sensitizing period of dropping a good amount of carbs, increase cardio and dropping a few pounds. Then back to hammering on the gas.


Funny how my goal 1.5 years ago was downsizing from the 225lbs I was and really pulling away from long workouts. I suppose women can influence decisions like that lol. I can honestly see myself getting up to the ~270lb mark depending how my body holds the weight and even though I don't track calories, I can see getting to upwards of 6-7k at the top end.



I like taking around 3g right away in the morning.
No matter what my pre workout shake has, I add an additional 2g.
Intra workout I add an additional 2g. If Raging Full is my intra, I don't need to add any because it already has it in.
I have been toying with the idea of adding 2g post workout but that isn't as cost effective imo. So likely not adding post workout but I'm thinking about it.


I'm very sure I will as well. I liked the energy I got from it the 1 time I tried it in the past. Those cold sweats just took my focus away. Wish I had more flavor options but then again, flavor is never the driving factor in ordering a pre.

I'll be interested in your results man. Keep us posted as the bulk progresses.

[Jammer02xd]

275lbs? ****ing hell

[Misctake7]

I'll be interested in your results man. Keep us posted as the bulk progresses.

275lbs? ****ing hell

You know I will Ben!

Gotta take body weight up to logically put on a lot of muscle. Sadly that does mean getting uncomfortably big for awhile. I got uncomfortably big last year at around 254lbs but I feel that bulk had so much more going for it before I had to stop early due to multiple factors. Stress(work, dads cancer diagnosis, breakup), terrible digestion at the end, depression for a period of time as a result of both of those previous. My body was not in a place for growing during that time and workouts went from PR every set to miserable and not even wanting to be in the gym.

[Jammer02xd]

Well of course but ****. That’s insane. I can’t imagine being 20lbs heavier than I am now let alone 70lbs... **** I’m slacking and now I feel bad lol

[gbullock32]

Had posted this in another thread, but thought I'd share it here too; this is 8 months of just eating enough to keep progressing on lifts rather than aiming for a specific weight gain per month/week. ~150 in the first pic, 162ish in the second. About 1.5 pounds gain per month averaged.




Wonder how long I can keep this going, wouldn't mind going for 200+ and see what happens. Been sitting at about 166 for a few weeks now but strength still improving. Being a lot more consistent with lifting and eating enough has been the biggest thing I think. Consistent change brings constant results.

[TrainerTone]

I like taking around 3g right away in the morning.
No matter what my pre workout shake has, I add an additional 2g.
Intra workout I add an additional 2g. If Raging Full is my intra, I don't need to add any because it already has it in.
I have been toying with the idea of adding 2g post workout but that isn't as cost effective imo. So likely not adding post workout but I'm thinking about it.

Interesting. What effects if any have you noticed from taking in this much Citrulline? What benefits is this believed to have?

[Misctake7]

Well of course but ****. That’s insane. I can’t imagine being 20lbs heavier than I am now let alone 70lbs... **** I’m slacking and now I feel bad lol

Bahaha, different goals and extremes for different folks. Sign up for Jordan Peters website and binge watch everything for the first month and discontinue if you don't get hooked(only $10 monthly). He will get you in the mindset you need and watching his training intensity should kind of be a good guide to elevate your training. Even if adding lots of muscle isn't your goal, it's pretty addicting and I guarantee you wouldn't cancel after the first month.

[BenBlue]

Had posted this in another thread, but thought I'd share it here too; this is 8 months of just eating enough to keep progressing on lifts rather than aiming for a specific weight gain per month/week. ~150 in the first pic, 162ish in the second. About 1.5 pounds gain per month averaged.




Wonder how long I can keep this going, wouldn't mind going for 200+ and see what happens. Been sitting at about 166 for a few weeks now but strength still improving. Being a lot more consistent with lifting and eating enough has been the biggest thing I think. Consistent change brings constant results.

Solid progress man, it's all about just developing those habits and giving it time. That really is the recipe!

[Misctake7]

That damn vascularity gbullock!

Interesting. What effects if any have you noticed from taking in this much Citrulline? What benefits is this believed to have?

Besides for pump and performance, has excellent overall growth potential and general health benefits. I'll get the material tomorrow when I get to my desk at my full time job and throw it up. Some studies on added muscle mass were done as well as it's improved health benefits.

[TrainerTone]

That damn vascularity gbullock!

Besides for pump and performance, has excellent overall growth potential and general health benefits. I'll get the material tomorrow when I get to my desk at my full time job and throw it up. Some studies on added muscle mass were done as well as it's improved health benefits.

Appreciate you sharing the knowledge brother!! I'll definitely be looking forward to reading that tomorrow when you post it up. I was thinking of adding in more Citrulline but felt like most pre's have enough. May have been wrong.

[gbullock32]

Veiny genetics of peace; you should see my brother, he is 5'7" but only 120 pounds (skinny) looks like a damn road map.

[Jammer02xd]

Bahaha, different goals and extremes for different folks. Sign up for Jordan Peters website and binge watch everything for the first month and discontinue if you don't get hooked(only $10 monthly). He will get you in the mindset you need and watching his training intensity should kind of be a good guide to elevate your training. Even if adding lots of muscle isn't your goal, it's pretty addicting and I guarantee you wouldn't cancel after the first month.

I need to get back to that mindset and crank the Intensity. I know it’s something I need to work on.

I’m still sitting 20lbs heavier than when I started two years ago and I’m pretty comfortable but damnit do I feel like sometimes I look like DYEL status. Damn long arms and legs.

[Meatie]

Veiny genetics of peace; you should see my brother, he is 5'7" but only 120 pounds (skinny) looks like a damn road map.

Ghost cereal milk gains of peace


slowly morphing into a vintage RENAN BARAO

[Misctake7]

I need to get back to that mindset and crank the Intensity. I know it’s something I need to work on.

I’m still sitting 20lbs heavier than when I started two years ago and I’m pretty comfortable but damnit do I feel like sometimes I look like DYEL status. Damn long arms and legs.

That's progress! The method I'm taking is just more the fastest progress you can manage because of the food and intense lifting. DC training
Takes time to fill out a frame like that. Did for me as well. Many years and lots of head scratching.
I'll PM you a thread I'm reading that's pretty handy. Some good reading material if anything.

[Misctake7]

Interesting. What effects if any have you noticed from taking in this much Citrulline? What benefits is this believed to have?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24972455

So this is lower protein and lower training frequency. Consider high protein and increased training frequency to have a more profound effect.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26019250