Optimum Nutrition Protein Water reps.

[allrnder]

I had this today. My god i could drink this all day long. every day. Icy Blue Raspberry was better than cordial.
Question. It says it is WPI with 20g of protein. I assume that it is an EAA blend correct? of about 5g which will have the same amount of Essential Amino Acids that a ~20g scoop would have? So it is 5g of protein equivilant to 20g?

I mean if it was WPI. Then how come I can't find WPI in this flavour? unless its an EAA blend. All I find is the normal WPC flacours.

[allrnder]

bump?

[Farley1324]

Why would you assume that a product, from a reputable company, with a label stating 20g of protein, has 5g of protein?


Also, strong bump from 3am to 6am lol

[OT2000]

Its 20g of whey protein isolate. Not an EAA blend of any kind. RTD (ready to drink’s) are commonly flavored in fruits not the rich flavors a protein powder will be flavored like chocolate, vanilla etc.

[BigDaddyBrose]

I had these a few times....good, but sweetness overload....

On a side note- my local store has its own label that is virtually undrinkable.... grainy, slippery(if that makes sense).....

[allrnder]

Why would you assume that a product, from a reputable company, with a label stating 20g of protein, has 5g of protein?


Also, strong bump from 3am to 6am lol

Is there something against the rules about pumping after 3 hours with no response?

Ever heard of Humapro?? 1 scoop 5g equivalent to 25g of protein.

Its 20g of whey protein isolate. Not an EAA blend of any kind. RTD (ready to drink’s) are commonly flavored in fruits not the rich flavors a protein powder will be flavored like chocolate, vanilla etc.

Any idea why WPI doesn't come in these flavours as a powder? or where I can get it?

[Farley1324]

Not sure what you are getting at by showing a label that in no way shape or form claims 25g of protein under the nutrition facts heading.

[Rob1882]

Any idea why WPI doesn't come in these flavours as a powder? or where I can get it?

Of course they are available in powder forms several companies sold here even sell these as powder the most famous and oldest prob is a company Glanbia owns the same company who owns Optimum Nutrition btw which is Natures Best Isopure the apple pear and alpine fruit punch pretty good to me and I have had those ON RTD's

[allrnder]

Not sure what you are getting at by showing a label that in no way shape or form claims 25g of protein under the nutrition facts heading.

Did you read where it says 25g above?

Did you see in the drink above I posted that it says 20g of protein In a place that is also not on the nutrition facts? It says it on the side which is not the nutrition facts tab.

[Farley1324]

Did you read where it says 25g above?

Did you see in the drink above I posted that it says 20g of protein In a place that is also not on the nutrition facts? It says it on the side which is not the nutrition facts tab.

"whole protein equivalent of 25g"

The word 'equivalent' there is pretty significant, as is the fact that that statement is not in the nutrition facts label.

The ON clearly shows the protein amount straight up, not equivalent, and in the nutrition facts box.

I see "Protein 20g" listed in the nutrition facts box of Optimum Protein Water. Hence, it has 20g of protein.

[allrnder]

Of course they are available in powder forms several companies sold here even sell these as powder the most famous and oldest prob is a company Glanbia owns the same company who owns Optimum Nutrition btw which is Natures Best Isopure the apple pear and alpine fruit punch pretty good to me and I have had those ON RTD's

I am looking now. Any chance on a link? I am having trouble finding these flavoures.

Do not link to outside competitors

[Rob1882]

ON Protein Water Label and it uses the WPI Whey Protein Isolate which is a source of protein dissolved in water so it is as Farley said not an equiv or just EAAs it is the full source of protein


https://www.bodybuilding.com/store/nb/lowcarb.html

US BBcom Isopure

We cannot discuss outside sellers but you can look for it or others like it Glanbia is a massive company sold world wide

[allrnder]

ON Protein Water Label and it uses the WPI Whey Protein Isolate which is a source of protein dissolved in water so it is as Farley said not an equiv or just EAAs it is the full source of protein


https://www.bodybuilding.com/store/nb/lowcarb.html

US BBcom Isopure

We cannot discuss outside sellers but you can look for it or others like it Glanbia is a massive company sold world wide

That link is great. many flavours there that are not the standard chocolate or whatever. 1.3kg tubs have the fruit flavoures.

So Isopure. What is the difference with these disolbing in water like this without getting clumpy like the others like WPC?

[Rob1882]

That link is great. many flavours there that are not the standard chocolate or whatever. 1.3kg tubs have the fruit flavoures.

So Isopure. What is the difference with these disolbing in water like this without getting clumpy like the others like WPC?

Ya they fully dissolve and those ISOPures also come in glass bottles as an RTD as well but the powder is the exact same thing just in the powder form you mix it yourself into water



Here is a pic of Isopure and those ON RTD's next to one another I had picked up while back the powder mixes up just as clear as those its the same powder they use in the RTD

The nutrition label for the ON I believe is on the cardboard case as when you buy them non-individual they are like in a 12 pack case the label I believe is on that the ISOpure is on both the case and each bottle if I am not mistaken tho but the same company owns both Optimum Nutrition and Natures Best which is Glanbia

[allrnder]

Ya they fully dissolve and those ISOPures also come in glass bottles as an RTD as well but the powder is the exact same thing just in the powder form you mix it yourself into water



Here is a pic of Isopure and those ON RTD's next to one another I had picked up while back the powder mixes up just as clear as those its the same powder they use in the RTD

The nutrition label for the ON I believe is on the cardboard case as when you buy them non-individual they are like in a 12 pack case the label I believe is on that the ISOpure is on both the case and each bottle if I am not mistaken tho but the same company owns both Optimum Nutrition and Natures Best which is Glanbia

Thx mate. Appreciate it. Buying now.

[lucia316]

Is there something against the rules about pumping after 3 hours with no response?

Ever heard of Humapro?? 1 scoop 5g equivalent to 25g of protein.

LOL. The fact that it claims .02 calories per serving when the lead three aminos of the prop blend are leucine, isoleucine and valine and BCAAs = 6 calories per gram.

Then you look at the ingredients and see sucralose as the largest ingredient by volume....smh

WPI is protein OP and not an amino blend. The flavor profiles that companies use can be anything they want. It isn't just magic RTD flavoring.

[allrnder]

LOL. The fact that it claims .02 calories per serving when the lead three aminos of the prop blend are leucine, isoleucine and valine and BCAAs = 6 calories per gram.

Then you look at the ingredients and see sucralose as the largest ingredient by volume....smh

WPI is protein OP and not an amino blend. The flavor profiles that companies use can be anything they want. It isn't just magic RTD flavoring.

So you see how labels are not always correct. Hence asking the question.
WPI consists of amino acids just like any other protein.

[Farley1324]

So you see how labels are not always correct. Hence asking the question.
WPI consists of amino acids just like any other protein.

Amino acids not being counted towards calories (that's the way it is, they aren't counted, even though they do have calories of course) is rather different than wondering if a nutrition facts of 20g protein means there are 20g of protein.

I guess we need to define "correct" lol. Amino acids' calories aren't counted on the label. That is the current "correct" way to label it, even though we do know that amino acids have calories

[allrnder]

Amino acids not being counted towards calories (that's the way it is, they aren't counted, even though they do have calories of course) is rather different than wondering if a nutrition facts of 20g protein means there are 20g of protein.

I guess we need to define "correct" lol. Amino acids' calories aren't counted on the label. That is the current "correct" way to label it, even though we do know that amino acids have calories

Well here in Australia we have different laws.
A product we have which contains EAA's with Sucralose as the sweetener says it has 92 calories.

[Farley1324]

Well here in Australia we have different laws.
A product we have which contains EAA's with Sucralose as the sweetener says it has 92 calories.

What's different about it?

[poison]

Reading this thread gives me a headache.

[VaughnTrue]

LOL. The fact that it claims .02 calories per serving when the lead three aminos of the prop blend are leucine, isoleucine and valine and BCAAs = 6 calories per gram.

Then you look at the ingredients and see sucralose as the largest ingredient by volume....smh

WPI is protein OP and not an amino blend. The flavor profiles that companies use can be anything they want. It isn't just magic RTD flavoring.

Sucralose is the highest dosed ingredient in the OTHER INGREDIENTS section, not all ingredients.

As the label states, there are 5,150mg (or 5.15g on this label) of the active amino acids per serving.

[lucia316]

Sucralose is the highest dosed ingredient in the OTHER INGREDIENTS section, not all ingredients.

As the label states, there are 5,150mg (or 5.15g on this label) of the active amino acids per serving.

You're correct. I misread that Vaughn. Still, my point was that the claim that calories were at .02 per serving was BS.

Obviously, the label here is not an Australian label since it's missing the calories and I think it's great that they are required to note the calories in free-form aminos on your labels. But it's not that this label is incorrect, but that it takes advantage of the laws, but really, it's not protein, but amino acids. It's not the same regardless of your country, amino breakdowns on protein powder should match the content of the protein macro fairly closely. If it doesn't, it's probably spiked.

[getbigordie18]

I had this today. My god i could drink this all day long. every day. Icy Blue Raspberry was better than cordial.
Question. It says it is WPI with 20g of protein. I assume that it is an EAA blend correct? of about 5g which will have the same amount of Essential Amino Acids that a ~20g scoop would have? So it is 5g of protein equivilant to 20g?

I mean if it was WPI. Then how come I can't find WPI in this flavour? unless its an EAA blend. All I find is the normal WPC flacours.

Sounds like its a good supplement. They are a trustworthy brand.

[allrnder]

What's different about it?

well isn't that obviouse if humapro states it has 0.02 calories per serve. when it doesn't. And our supplements here in Australia have the CORRECT numbers. Kinda means there is a difference. THE TGA states out labels have to be correct.

[allrnder]

Sounds like its a good supplement. They are a trustworthy brand.

As far as I am aware they are decent yes.

[Farley1324]

well isn't that obviouse if humapro states it has 0.02 calories per serve. when its not. And out supplements here in Australia have the CORRECT numbers. Kinda means there is a difference. THE TGA states out labels have to be correct.

Unclear pronoun in my post I suppose. It = Aus laws. I asked what is different about your laws.

Is there a country with laws that would allow a nutrition facts label to say "Protein 20g" without having 20g protein?

[allrnder]

Unclear pronoun in my post I suppose. It = Aus laws. I asked what is different about your laws.

Is there a country with laws that would allow a nutrition facts label to say "Protein 20g" without having 20g protein?

Is there a law that allows a supplement to contain 0.02 calories per serve when it clearly doesn't? I just said the difference.

[Farley1324]

Is there a law that allows a supplement to contain 0.02 calories per serve when it clearly doesn't? I just said the difference.

Yes, there is. I thought we already covered that amino acids aren't counted towards calories on labels in the US?

[RK42]

Is there a law that allows a supplement to contain 0.02 calories per serve when it clearly doesn't?

This article explains it well, with direct quotes of the relevant laws: https://myoleanfitness.com/do-bcaas-have-calories/.