good nutrition book for gym guys?

[guy169]

been hearing rogan talk about keto for awhile, then a coworker told me that he is using it, gotta be honest i don't fully understand it

anyone read this book? do you think following their advice would help a lot?

http://amzn.to/2iKPvRr

[Mrpb]

Keto isn't any better than a normal calorie deficit. You don't need books. Read the stickies.

[desslok]

Keto isn't any better than a normal calorie deficit. You don't need books. Read the stickies.

While you certainly don't "need" books, i do find that for some people they help with motivation. IF you find good books, which is more difficult to find.

[guy169]

so you guys dont thik there is any benefit to your body being in a ketotonic state?

[gbullock32]

so you guys dont thik there is any benefit to your body being in a ketotonic state?

No, it's not that we 'think' there is no benefit. There is no benefit, none that has ever been proven (in regards to fat loss).

[Mrpb]

so you guys dont thik there is any benefit to your body being in a ketotonic state?

If you're overweight and insulin resistant keto can be interesting. If not I'd recommend a diet that includes carbs.

[ohmybob]

so you guys dont thik there is any benefit to your body being in a ketotonic state?

I'd never do anything that restricts carbs since that is your bodies main source of energy. Just seems crazy to me

[rhadam]

so you guys dont thik there is any benefit to your body being in a ketotonic state?

If you are diabetic or pre-diabetic then it's a conversation to have with a specialist. If you are not one of those two things then outside of personal preference keto isn't going to do anything magical vs a traditional diet.

[BennoMac]

i did keto for 6 months when i was 300 pounds. i did lose weight on this, then i switched to a normal diet and i lost at the same rate as keto and enjoyed my food more...

[ErikTheElectric]

been hearing rogan talk about keto for awhile, then a coworker told me that he is using it, gotta be honest i don't fully understand it

anyone read this book? do you think following their advice would help a lot?

http://amzn.to/2iKPvRr

Avoid listening to Joe Rogan talk about nutrition OP.

[KrazyJohnson]

Avoid listening to Joe Rogan talk about nutrition OP.

^this...the guy seems easily enamoured by alternative fads.

[ErikTheElectric]

^this...the guy seems easily enamoured by alternative fads.

Some of his guests have been cool, but yeah I'd stay away from his nutrition stuff. He's rather entertaining though.

[Mrpb]

If entertainment involves spreading misinformation I don't want to be entertained.

[guy169]

definitely dont take rogan as gospel.... but he knows more than me on the subject

[Mrpb]

definitely dont take rogan as gospel.... but he knows more than me on the subject

I doubt it. The guy is utterly clueless when it comes to nutrition. Being more ignorant than him is impossible.

[boo99]

I doubt it. The guy is utterly clueless when it comes to nutrition. Being more ignorant than him is impossible.

I liked him best as host of "Fear Factor" years ago; that's about it 😂

[Mrpb]

At least he got one thing right.

[desslok]

I liked him best as host of "Fear Factor" years ago; that's about it 😂

I liked him best on the girls gone wild commercials. But nit enough to listen to him yammer about random topics.

[ChrisPalla]

I really like Natural Hormonal Enhancement by Rob Faigin

[guy169]

listening to rogans show isnt necessarily about listening to him, it is about listening to the awesome guests he has on

and as far as him being ignorant.... would bet he knows more about a wide range of topics than the dude who is saying that just based on the exposure he has had

[Mrpb]

listening to rogans show isnt necessarily about listening to him, it is about listening to the awesome guests he has on

haha he's clueless when it comes to nutrition and his guests are the worst. He will invite Gary Taubes on his show but not Alan Aragon. What more proof do you need.

[guy169]

haha he's clueless when it comes to nutrition and his guests are the worst. He will invite Gary Taubes on his show but not Alan Aragon. What more proof do you need.

oh well he has one bad guest on and that means all of his guests suck

sound logic

[dawjoms]

Keto is generally safe but it is not for all. Much better to consult first with a Diet Doctor.

[Mrpb]

oh well he has one bad guest on and that means all of his guests suck

No he refuses to get an evidence based practitioner and scientist like Alan Aragon but he will invite a journalist with a low carb foundation.

And that's not the only example, he invites a ton of quacks.

[Strawng]

No he refuses to get an evidence based practitioner and scientist like Alan Aragon but he will invite a journalist with a low carb foundation.

And that's not the only example, he invites a ton of quacks.

This. Just check out his latest guest on later today: http://www.biohackerslab.com/ep19-dr-shawn-baker/. This guy advocates a "carnivorous" all-meat "zero carb" diet without any fruits or vegetables. Even fuking Erik's podcast is actually way more informative and thought-provoking...and he's a 20-something miscer with no guests or sources beyond him using wikipedia as he's talking off the top of his head. Hell, he doesn't even need Aragon, Joe should just invite Erik on. Srs. That being said, Rogan has his moments of comedy, and maybe 1 out of 100 guests are honestly enlightening and 100% worthy of a full listen (Jordan Peterson, Neil Tyson, etc.)

[AD1985]

Brad Schrodinger recently did an interview and said that carbs aid anabolism. He challenged the interviewer/audience to show a study where ketogenic diets outperformed ones with more carbs.

[Mrpb]

How many RE studies are there that compared a carb based diet with keto after proper adaptation and then measured muscle growth?

I'm only aware of one study, the one by Wilson, which may contain frauded data according to rumors.

Afaik all the other studies didn't have proper adaptation and/or did not measure actual muscle growth.