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    Supplements for enhanced cognition & focus (nootropics)

    Hi guys,

    I'm interested in trying some nootropics specifically for cognitive and focus related benefits.

    Can you recommend some products, either stand-alone ingredients or blends/stacks?

    I've been looking at things like l-tyrosine, noopept, phosphatidyl serine.
    Just want to try something with a good track record/evidence. (and is safe)

    Thanks
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    have always had great results from Alpha GPC personally
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    Thanks for the inputs.



    Not exactly related to what I'm looking for, but any of you tried theacrine?
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    I personally like CDP Choline or alpha-gpc, along with ALCAR and huperzine

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    Thanks for the inputs.



    Not exactly related to what I'm looking for, but any of you tried theacrine?
    Yes, it basically works synergistically with caffeine and helps extend the energy for multiple hours. There is a 100mg dose of theacrine in our nootropic supplement MAN Sports BrainBridge. It's loaded with nootropics, including the ones I mentioned above, at full doses.

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    I personally like CDP Choline or alpha-gpc, along with ALCAR and huperzine
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    Out of all the nootropic and focus type supplements, my favorite is Redcon1 Mental Trigger. Good for morning or early afternoon. I don't like taking when working out later because it has teacrine in it, so I have a harder time sleeping.

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    Bump for good thread....I wanna see more suggestions. I’ve been curious about this also. Looking for something non stim that I don’t have to buy 100 different bottles of pills to get some decent results.
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    Good stuff.
    Will be sampling a few of these.

    Is there a big difference between cdp choline and choline?
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    You have to look into Gamer Up.

    Great stuff for cognition, enhanced reaction time, memory etc
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    Good stuff.
    Will be sampling a few of these.

    Is there a big difference between cdp choline and choline?
    Yes, in terms of what actually crosses the blood brain barrier and enhances cognition.
    Usually alpha gpc &a CDP choline are preferred over choline bitartrate due to this reason, along with the fact that choline bitartrate needs dosing of 1-3G to be effective, whereas alpha gpc is around 300-600mg, and CDP choline is around 250-500mg.

    For further clarification and differences between the choline types, check out priceplow' article on choline
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    Any enhances in cognition will most likely happen with chronic dosing, acute effects generally come from stimulants and some adaptaogenic herbs
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    Any enhances in cognition will most likely happen with chronic dosing, acute effects generally come from stimulants and some adaptaogenic herbs
    You've never noticed acute effects with cholinergics? Focus?
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    You've never noticed acute effects with cholinergics? Focus?
    I've always considered the term focus to be a bit subjective, an enhanced ability to concentrate is something that might come from acute dosing but any improvements in memory will come from consistent use.
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    I've always considered the term focus to be a bit subjective, an enhanced ability to concentrate is something that might come from acute dosing but any improvements in memory will come from consistent use.
    Wouldn't better concentration help in terms of remembering what you're doing/reading?
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    Wouldn't better concentration help in terms of remembering what you're doing/reading?
    It might be more noticeable on one's short term/working memory but you have a point.
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    Opening up a whole new world....some of the best formulas:

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    Originally Posted by carguy123 View Post
    In terms of the blends that are already available on the market this is a very good list, my favorite out of the bunch is Evomuse Clear Edge.
    Any ideas if Evomuse is going to have a BF deal? I was looking at the formula and quite impressed! I've been using Alpha Brain and Trubrain for a while now. I like both these formulas and they offer very unique benefits. I also did a jug of Brainbridge and really enjoyed that formula as well. If anyone wants to look into Trubrain let me know because I have 20% off link.
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    Originally Posted by BOOSTEDDUDE View Post
    Any ideas if Evomuse is going to have a BF deal? I was looking at the formula and quite impressed! I've been using Alpha Brain and Trubrain for a while now. I like both these formulas and they offer very unique benefits. I also did a jug of Brainbridge and really enjoyed that formula as well. If anyone wants to look into Trubrain let me know because I have 20% off link.
    I havent seen any word yet, however I know his 2nd run of Clear Edge is just about finished up.
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    Originally Posted by eatyourspinach View Post
    It might be more noticeable on one's short term/working memory but you have a point.
    Yeah, and since LTM is consolidated within REM sleep, which occurs later that same day, I feel the acute and long term effects of such cholinergics are amazing.
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    Originally Posted by DamonX View Post
    Yeah, and since LTM is consolidated within REM sleep, which occurs later that same day, I feel the acute and long term effects of such cholinergics are amazing.
    Declarative memory storage requires low cholinergic tone in SWS. This can be disrupted by excessive ACh.



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