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    Learning the snatch

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    I am trying to incorporate OL in my routine and learn them on my own
    Started having pain in my rotator cuff after cleans its even affecting my back squat is that sign of a common technical mistake
    Also tips videos advices are welcome to learn cleans and especially snatch as I really struggle I think i am not quick enough to drop under the bar

    Thank you in advance
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    I could see this topic popping up in the misc section with a completely different conversation.
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    Originally Posted by rollalong View Post
    I could see this topic popping up in the misc section with a completely different conversation.
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    Originally Posted by shayann View Post
    Hello
    I am trying to incorporate OL in my routine and learn them on my own
    Started having pain in my rotator cuff after cleans its even affecting my back squat is that sign of a common technical mistake
    Also tips videos advices are welcome to learn cleans and especially snatch as I really struggle I think i am not quick enough to drop under the bar

    Thank you in advance
    I suggest doing the power versions of the clean and of the snatch and becoming masterful at them before doing the full squat versions. There's a ton of online instruction for them, but beware, there is also some stupid **** out there, as well. I studied a lot of Olympic snatch competitions in 1/4 time to learn the technique, before attempting it. Then and there, I decided to master the power version first. The stronger you get in the power versions, the more confidence you'll have to drop under the bar (dumbbells, in my case).
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    what he said ^
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    Originally Posted by twk_habs View Post
    what he said ^
    Really? So to learn the SNATCH, you advise he practices only 2/3 of the movement using equipment that is completely different than that used for what OP wants to learn.

    You're not going to learn how to snatch, which is performed with a barbell, by practicing dumbbell power snatches. Sure, technically it's a snatch as in the weight goes from the ground to overhead in one movement, but the two are completely different.

    OP - Canned answer is

    FIND A COACH (if you're in the US)
    https://www.teamusa.org/usa-weightli...wc/find-a-club

    No? You said you're already experiencing shoulder pain but you still want to go it alone? You're going to take longer, develop bad habits anyway, limit progress and probably hurt yourself.

    Is the pain during and briefly after dumping the weight from the rack position? A decent coach could diagnose and recommend a fix within minutes. You're going to spend days or even weeks trying to pinpoint the problem, but even then what to do to fix it?

    Still want to go it alone?

    Learn the FULL movements from the top down. Use these as a starting point, this is one of three for the snatch.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6SjuAOjMEk

    And one of three for the clean.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEyoH5FV03s

    Watch competitions and training videos like:
    https://www.youtube.com/user/WliftPro
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpM...hXnsdlrUD_MMmQ
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    https://www.youtube.com/user/allthingsgym
    https://www.youtube.com/user/franjete/videos
    https://www.youtube.com/user/hookgrip

    Read books like:
    https://www.amazon.com/Olympic-Weigh.../dp/0980011116
    https://www.amazon.com/Olympic-Weigh...8ENP295PFW6N5W
    https://www.amazon.com/Weightlifting...VVAN8315GCZ3HT
    https://www.amazon.com/Science-Pract...GW83HMY9FV8801

    Find a basic program to follow. There's a bunch out there and even more in the books I linked above.
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    What FNG37 said!!
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    Originally Posted by FNG37 View Post
    Learn the FULL movements from the top down. Use these as a starting point, this is one of three for the snatch.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6SjuAOjMEk



    Read books like:
    https://www.amazon.com/Olympic-Weigh.../dp/0980011116
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    Find a basic program to follow. There's a bunch out there and even more in the books I linked above.
    FNG37 makes some good points, and that book is an excellent value, I have a copy, lots of info in there pertaining to all sorts of lifting, warming up, GPP.

    I am re-learning this stuff now. (was coached in X-fit, and separate oly club a couple of years ago) one thing that helped me get going again this past summer was creating simple complexes;

    Snatch dead-lift+snatch pull+power snatch+ overhead squat.

    Just do it with an empty bar , pvc pipe, technique bar, or even a 28mm dia steel bar (weighs more than pvc, but less than a 15 or 20kg bar) eventually this could be your warm up routine anyway.

    Assuming you already have good back and Front squat technique, This should grease your mobility.If not go back and work on that first.

    Find out what is going on with your shoulder tho first.
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