Call me intrigued.
Looks like a powdered version of Dexaprine XR without alpha y + all of the other mesomorph ingredients.
Hoping that the pineapple flavor will be offered and that samples will be available, as I'm looking for a new pre (non DMHA), but on a tight budget atm
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10-23-2017, 10:01 PM #1
New mesomorph w/ Senegalia extract
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check out what the Senegalia is standardized for...some REALLY powerful Phenethylamine isomers and of course Methylsynephrine. This thing kicks in very very fast, and has no crash thanks to the crazy long half life of MS.
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I'm no chemist, I wouldn't know, but I read that methylsynephrine is an amphetamine. Also reading a lot about the FDA sending out warnings about it....not trying to pull a KDD move (had to KDD, sorry) but why with all the FDA **** Hi-Tech is going through are you guys going with another ingredient on their radar?
Maybe I'm way out to left field on this...Squat and Deadlift
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At worse, they get warning letters for using the ingredient. I think that they are pretty safe to use it because the repercussions for using it is not heavy. They also have to do something to make some money though, they got hit by a 40 million dollar fine, and the 18 count criminal charges pretty much wiped them out on grey market products.
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WADA didn't allow DMAA either, so it's not really a change there, many of the "fun" preworkouts will still be limited to the untested feds. Honestly, WADA is so strict that I hesitate to recommend WADA tested athletes anything more than just caffeine anyway. Well, that and to check the list itself, but there's so many instances of "and other substances with similar structure and effects" that they're probably better off just drinking coffee or a Monster than risking it with anything else.
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WADA also has a level caffeine intake before event limit as well. They have a bunch of stuff on there but they are not always necessarily tied to things being compliant or not with DSHEA. Good thing about DSHEA however is that if you use non-compliant stuff, as long as it's not a controlled substance (which would basically be mainly DASCA 2014 as far as we are concerned, and it becomes a DEA issue) all you really end up with are warning letters from the FDA but nothing that really gets you into that much trouble. So let's say that the FDA comes down on HTP using methylsynepherine or what not, it's not like there's going to be much in terms of monetary penalty apart from you losing inventory and there's not going to be criminal charges so, only thing HTP really has to lose with this reformulation is the possibility of having to dump inventory if the FDA gets annoyed enough. Not the end of the world.
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Cheers, thanks for the feedback guys.
That's a good point about training w the exotics and relying too heavily on them. Gonna have to rethink my approach, but right now i'm in limbo....hurt my posterior squatting last week, haven't been checked out yet but hoping to bounce back quickly.Squat and Deadlift
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I'm definitely intrigued as well. I've been hearing (Vaughn and some others) talk a lot about this recently and it sounds very exciting.
I honestly don't compete anymore. And I really don't plan on competing again (but that can always change ... depending if my son really wants me to or not) but in the meantime I can check out these exotic stims and I love that. See how they work, see how I feel, etc. and decide from there.
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