New mesomorph w/ Senegalia extract

[VO2Maxima]

I'm definitely intrigued as well. I've been hearing (Vaughn and some others) talk a lot about this recently and it sounds very exciting.

I honestly don't compete anymore. And I really don't plan on competing again (but that can always change ... depending if my son really wants me to or not) but in the meantime I can check out these exotic stims and I love that. See how they work, see how I feel, etc. and decide from there.





-Spaz

You compete with your son, Spaz? Because that's really cool. There is a guy and his young daughter who do meets around here, they are the coolest family. The dad is putting the daughter in gear for her next meet too, just picked up a bench shirt for her.

[Madevilz]

Haven't seen the new formula... but is iForce just using the Canadian version?


This is what being sold over here:

[BenBlue]

Haven't seen the new formula... but is iForce just using the Canadian version?


This is what being sold over here:

huh, i always ignore CA versions cause they typically such. That looks about right though.

Have you tried that version. If so, how does it stack up to DMAA version?

[Madevilz]

huh, i always ignore CA versions cause they typically such. That looks about right though.

Have you tried that version. If so, how does it stack up to DMAA version?

Haven't tried it myself.

[dougefresh93]

You compete with your son, Spaz? Because that's really cool. There is a guy and his young daughter who do meets around here, they are the coolest family. The dad is putting the daughter in gear for her next meet too, just picked up a bench shirt for her.

i read it as "on" not "in"

[VaughnTrue]

Haven't seen the new formula... but is iForce just using the Canadian version?


This is what being sold over here:

not sure about canada, but IFN doesn't sell Mesomorph brotein

[Madevilz]

not sure about canada, but IFN doesn't sell Mesomorph brotein

lmao, Hi Tech? Gaspari? Formutech? Pretty sure I am missing one

[dougefresh93]

lmao, Hi Tech? Gaspari? Formutech? Pretty sure I am missing one

or 8

[LoudyRowdy]

lmao, Hi Tech? Gaspari? Formutech? Pretty sure I am missing one

Out of 39 brands...afaik only 3 are sold here at BBcom

[ILPump]

Out of 39 brands...afaik only 3 are sold here at BBcom

What does that tell you, just a bunch of rubbish

[DASBUNKER]

This is why we can't have nice things smh [yawn]

[VO2Maxima]

i read it as "on" not "in"

Lol I added the bench shirt part after re-reading the post and realizing what it sounded like if you read it too quickly.

[noaddedhormones]

Ooooo another amphetamine, ya? Is this one naturally occurring? lol

Anyhoo, color me intrigued.

Edit: this one's gonna have WADA folks pissing red, no?

beta-O-methyl-synephrine Is naturally occurring.

[VaughnTrue]

beta-O-methyl-synephrine Is naturally occurring.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20643105

R-(-)-beta-O-methylsynephrine, a natural product, inhibits VEGF-induced angiogenesis in vitro and in vivo.
Kim NH1, Pham NB, Quinn RJ, Kwon HJ.
Author information
Abstract
R-(-)-beta-O-methylsynephrine (OMe-Syn) is an active compound isolated from a plant of the Rutaceae family. We conducted cell proliferation assays on various cell lines and found that OMe-Syn more strongly inhibited the growth of human umbilical vein endothelial cells (HUVECs) than that of other normal and cancer cell lines tested. In angiogenesis assays, it inhibited vascular endothelial growth factor (VEGF)-induced invasion and tube formation of HUVECs with no toxicity. The anti-angiogenic activity of OMe-Syn was also validated in vivo using the chorioallantonic membrane (CAM) assay in growing chick embryos. Expression of the growth factors VEGF, hepatocyte growth factor, and basic fibroblast growth factor was suppressed by OMe-Syn in a dose-dependent manner. Taken together, our results indicate that this compound could be a novel basis for a small molecule targeting angiogenesis.

[Big_Spaz]

You compete with your son, Spaz? Because that's really cool. There is a guy and his young daughter who do meets around here, they are the coolest family. The dad is putting the daughter in gear for her next meet too, just picked up a bench shirt for her.

He hasn't competed *yet* but I think he will in the very near future. My daughter does compete however in Powerlifting. She is on the powerlifting team at Penn State right now.

My son will do Bodybuilding (I would think) and probably Juniors in the next 2-3 years. So at that time, I'll probably train for the show with him. Whether I throw the man thong on and hit the stage is still to be determined, lol






-Spaz

[DamonX]

Hoping for someone that buys this to give feedback on it as I'm pretty interested in making a purchase.


Also, do you think that hi tech is also going to make the switch in off-the-chain? As in replacing DMAA with senegalia?

[kissdadookie]

Hoping for someone that buys this to give feedback on it as I'm pretty interested in making a purchase.


Also, do you think that hi tech is also going to make the switch in off-the-chain? As in replacing DMAA with senegalia?

What I have been told is that the version with that extract had already been on the market alongside with the DMAA version, HTP just didn't really push it. I suppose what's happening now is that they are pushing the senegalia version as if it's brand new.

[ejbassett]

Is there a difference between synephrine and methylsynephrine?

[VaughnTrue]

Hoping for someone that buys this to give feedback on it as I'm pretty interested in making a purchase.


Also, do you think that hi tech is also going to make the switch in off-the-chain? As in replacing DMAA with senegalia?

No senegalia coming for off the chain, it'll be more similar to hyperamino

[compan]

What does that tell you, just a bunch of rubbish

Or they make things not sold on BB.com... that is always a possibility.

[kissdadookie]

What I posted earlier was in regards to Meso btw for the record :P

[LoudyRowdy]

so I would guess if the products sell well then HiTech will stop fighting for the DMAA Cause?

[DASBUNKER]

so I would guess if the products sell well then HiTech will stop fighting for the DMAA Cause?

lol I'd say neither will be happening anytime soon.

[ILPump]

so I would guess if the products sell well then HiTech will stop fighting for the DMAA Cause?

Other than the mental focus that DMAA provides it's pretty much useless and so is this old news ingredient. This one will cost HiTech a boat load in fee's

[dougefresh93]

Other than the mental focus that DMAA provides it's pretty much useless

[noaddedhormones]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20643105

Yeah, however it is inert when it comes to possessing any stimulation properties unlike Oxilofrine (active form of methylsynpherine)

[XCriticalBenchX]

so I would guess if the products sell well then HiTech will stop fighting for the DMAA Cause?

I'd truly hope not.. I like the fact that Hi-Tech fights for our rights as consumers..

Mike

[VO2Maxima]

He hasn't competed *yet* but I think he will in the very near future. My daughter does compete however in Powerlifting. She is on the powerlifting team at Penn State right now.

My son will do Bodybuilding (I would think) and probably Juniors in the next 2-3 years. So at that time, I'll probably train for the show with him. Whether I throw the man thong on and hit the stage is still to be determined, lol






-Spaz

That's cool, Spaz. And good for your daughter! We still have to get a workout in at some point, bring your daughter along too.

Okay, I'm done derailing the thread. Carry on.

[poison]

Talk about kicking my ass. It hit hard, strong, and long. Unfortunately I was just working, I wanted to **** **** up.



7.5 hrs later, still energized, no crash.

[VaughnTrue]

Talk about kicking my ass. It hit hard, strong, and long. Unfortunately I was just working, I wanted to **** **** up.



7.5 hrs later, still energized, no crash.

boom! Huge review coming from you man, thank you kindly!