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    Originally Posted by metco View Post
    The shooter's rooms were next to each other, these bursts are hundreds of yards apart. Sounds like return fire in a firefght. Everyone please listen. Two widely different locations. Multiple shooters. First 3 minutes of the video.




    Now for the hundredth time, why are you shilling for mass murder instead of calling for proper investigation?
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    Originally Posted by nutsy54 View Post
    Reality: Every chaotic, breaking news incident includes inaccurate information

    Yet conspiracy quacks latch onto it as complete fact, while informs any subsequent information that disproves their delusional worldview
    I'm with Nutsy on this. There are volumes of studies that show how grossly inaccurate eye-witness testimony can be in the heat of the moment.
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    It's pretty difficult to take the CT narrative seriously when every single time a mass murder or terrorist incident occurs, you chucklefuks insist that it's a false flag and then start your circle-jerk in order to post increasingly large amounts of 'evidence' by which I mean supposition, dodgy graphs, photoshopped hoaxes, quotes from 'secret sources', quotes from known lunatics presented as 'scientist/terror expert/CIA agent' <delete as applicable>, more supposition and general fukkery.

    If you tried approaching this with the scientific method instead of the dishonest intention to locate 'evidence' to support your narrative, you'd get a lot further convincing people. As it stands, the source is just so biased and prone to so much error, many if not most reasonable observers are just not going to trawl through your mountain of BS looking for a gold nugget.

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    The first sentence pinned this down:

    While it is too soon to know if there are signs that the Las Vegas attack was a false flag
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    Originally Posted by XterraRob View Post
    I'm with Nutsy on this. There are volumes of studies that show how grossly inaccurate eye-witness testimony can be in the heat of the moment.
    Did you view this yet? How are those bursts from anywhere near the same location, even close? And one is a machine gun which is much louder. Rifles cannot sustain that rate of fire.

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    Originally Posted by XterraRob View Post
    I'm with Nutsy on this. There are volumes of studies that show how grossly inaccurate eye-witness testimony can be in the heat of the moment.
    Are you a judge by chance? I tend to think the more information available to decipher, the better. But sounds like z4v4 already has his rebuttal package ready to go, so we'll have to pick something or "choose a side" so he can get started.
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    Originally Posted by Mr Beer View Post
    It's pretty difficult to take the CT narrative seriously when every single time a mass murder or terrorist incident occurs, you chucklefuks insist that it's a false flag and then start your circle-jerk in order to post increasingly large amounts of 'evidence' by which I mean supposition, dodgy graphs, photoshopped hoaxes, quotes from 'secret sources', quotes from known lunatics presented as 'scientist/terror expert/CIA agent' <delete as applicable>, more supposition and general fukkery.

    If you tried approaching this with the scientific method instead of the dishonest intention to locate 'evidence' to support your narrative, you'd get a lot further convincing people. As it stands, the source is just so biased and prone to so much error, many if not most reasonable observers are just not going to trawl through your mountain of BS looking for a gold nugget.

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    But who was 4th floor?

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    Originally Posted by Orlando1234977 View Post
    Are you a judge by chance? I tend to think the more information available to decipher, the better. But sounds like z4v4 already has his rebuttal package ready to go, so we'll have to pick something or "choose a side" so he can get started.
    Huh? My rebuttal package is the authorities investigating the incident will be a better judge than random youtube conspiracy videos based on the crumbs given to them by those same authorities. Jesus, one conspiracy rag shows a picture of a shooter on the ground. Oddly enough, that ground shooter is dressed like a cop.

    I'm of the belief to wait for the info to come out. No one is going to crack the case watching random iPhone videos the police is already aware of. But if your point is people need to be vigilant because the police and feds are corrupt and false flag nonsense, well, then I can't help you there.
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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    I'm of the belief to wait for the info to come out.
    Then why are you in here adamantly defending the news media's take on things?
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    Originally Posted by arn710 View Post
    Then why are you in here adamantly defending the news media's take on things?
    Because that's the info that's been currently released to the media. I mean it's fine to speculate if, and, why, but that's different than say, OP. Seriously, there's a picture of a cop with a rifle on the ground and some conspiracy rag is saying that's a 2nd shooter. How is that helpful to anyone?
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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    Huh? My rebuttal package is the authorities investigating the incident will be a better judge than random youtube conspiracy videos based on the crumbs given to them by those same authorities. Jesus, one conspiracy rag shows a picture of a shooter on the ground. Oddly enough, that ground shooter is dressed like a cop.

    I'm of the belief to wait for the info to come out. No one is going to crack the case watching random iPhone videos the police is already aware of. But if your point is people need to be vigilant because the police and feds are corrupt and false flag nonsense, well, then I can't help you there.
    Yes, but nobody is coming out with theories itt, even after you beg them to 4 or 5 times. The content is under the context of info gathering and sharing. For some reason you're adamant at dismissing the idea of thorough interviews to eye witnesses, police scanners etc..
    You even called an eye witness "drunken theories".
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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    Because that's the info that's been currently released to the media. I mean it's fine to speculate if, and, why, but that's different than say, OP. Seriously, there's a picture of a cop with a rifle on the ground and some conspiracy rag is saying that's a 2nd shooter. How is that helpful to anyone?
    I haven't seen OP propose any alternate theories even with your insistence. I have seen other people but even those were pretty limited

    Most of what I have seen is information sharing from alternate sources and perspectives

    Chill a bit, let people share and come to their own conclusions. That's what these forums are for
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    Fair enough. False flag to me is a pretty specific theory. As for drunk, well, concert goer in Vegas is slurring words and her brother is rolling his eyes. Definitely not much of a stretch.
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    LMAO you have got to just lol with these conspiracy stories.

    - Can you imagine if one of these loony idiotsever get affect by a mass shooting or terror attack. They would lose their minds making vids like these
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    Originally Posted by MericaThatsWhy View Post
    LMAO you have got to just lol with these conspiracy stories.

    - Can you imagine if one of these loony idiotsever get affect by a mass shooting or terror attack. They would lose their minds making vids like these
    It was time for a really stupid comment and you win. If someone you knew got shot you would want the truth, not mindless repetition of the official story, from the same people who keep telling you it was the Russians who made Trump win.
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    Originally Posted by MericaThatsWhy View Post
    LMAO you have got to just lol with these conspiracy stories.

    - Can you imagine if one of these loony idiotsever get affect by a mass shooting or terror attack. They would lose their minds making vids like these
    Which conspiracy story was your favorite itt?
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    Originally Posted by metco View Post
    Did you view this yet? How are those bursts from anywhere near the same location, even close? And one is a machine gun which is much louder. Rifles cannot sustain that rate of fire.
    oh you are one special breed of idiot aren't you.




    - It's 2017, phones today adjust for background noise.

    - The video was taken in front of the hotel, right above where the shooter was

    - The 1st wave of shots are louder than the 2nd wave because the person's phone didn't adjust yet, to the gun shots as it being background noise
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    Originally Posted by metco View Post
    It was time for a really stupid comment and you win. If someone you knew got shot you would want the truth, not mindless repetition of the official story, from the same people who keep telling you it was the Russians who made Trump win.
    Until you are in some way directly affected by these heart breaking events, you will continue to act like an idiot every time a massacre like this happens


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    Originally Posted by MericaThatsWhy View Post
    oh you are one special breed of idiot aren't you.




    - It's 2017, phones today adjust for background noise.

    - The video was taken in front of the hotel, right above where the shooter was

    - The 1st wave of shots are louder than the 2nd wave because the person's phone didn't adjust yet, to the gun shots as it being background noise
    What's the basis for these not to be considered conspiracy points of actual footage vs someone that thinks otherwise?
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    Originally Posted by Orlando1234977 View Post
    What's the basis for these not to be considered conspiracy points of actual footage vs someone that thinks otherwise?

    because these are facts.

    Also anyone that has an elementary level understanding of 'science' and as been to vegas (on the strip) or lives in a city like New York would know about how echos work when sound is bouncing off buildings and objects, just saying
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    I'm a conspiracy guy myself but this one is upsurd. Took people a whole day to make up weird conspiracies.


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    And honestly a lot of these people are doing this chit for the view counts or wanting to be the next Alex Jones


    - Really sad when losers who don't have anything going for them in life, find the need to exploit a tragic event where 59 families lost their loved ones

    - Just for the view counts and the hundreds of mindless comments they'll receive and reply back to. I guess it gives them a purpose to get out of bed in the morning and not face the hard truth that they are truly the bottom feeders of society.
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    Originally Posted by metco View Post
    Now you add blatant lies to your deliberate obfuscation, there weren't near 30,000 people that's a small football stadium. It's a small venue of a few thousand at most.
    See, when you can't even get the basic Facts right, why should anyone believe your knee-jerk ranting about multiple shooters, massive conspiracies, false flag attacks, and your inability to comprehend that major breaking-news events always have some inaccurate information at first?

    Music festival involving 20,000 fans, and you claim "a small venue with a few thousand at most"
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    The shots fired sounding "far away" have been identified as the shooter enaging the security guard in the hallway of the hotel.
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    Originally Posted by metco View Post
    All sources require corroboration and confirmation.
    Oh the irony of CT nuts saying something like this....
    So much universe, so little time.
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    Originally Posted by metco View Post
    Now for the hundredth time, why are you shilling for mass murder instead of calling for proper investigation?
    Nobody is shilling for mass murder, that's just your cute little straw man when you can't defend ridiculous claims.

    Nobody is opposed to a proper investigation... WHICH IS ALREADY IN PROGRESS.

    Almost everyone (except you, of course) is opposed to an investigation which starts by insisting on a predetermined outcome, then making up whatever fake claims lead to that result, while ignoring any facts or evidence which dispute what you wish were true.
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    Originally Posted by MericaThatsWhy View Post
    because these are facts.

    Also anyone that has an elementary level understanding of 'science' and as been to vegas (on the strip) or lives in a city like New York would know about how echos work when sound is bouncing off buildings and objects, just saying
    What is the basis for your ideas to the actual footage to be facts and his not? In fact, no one here is claiming fact except the name callers.

    Listen at :45 and again at 1:07. There's nothing prior to :45 for it to be echoes, and it's not a one time thing.
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    Originally Posted by nutsy54 View Post
    Reality: Every chaotic, breaking news incident includes inaccurate information

    Yet conspiracy quacks latch onto it as complete fact, while ingnoring any subsequent information that disproves their delusional worldview
    Lol and 9/11 was done by Afghan cavemen, right? Blue pill retard
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