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    Who wants to bet me

    That NFL ratings will be down at least 10% on average for this season (excluding Super Bowl) based upon nationally recognized sources, such as televised ratings excluding "views" on twitter or some bullsht like that.
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    Originally Posted by BadMonkeyFunker View Post
    still more than trumps.. ******* claims more ppl side with trump on this issue. that 'tiny' 1M middle fingers say ' NO '
    It's true, no one gives a chit what celebs or athletes have to say. He gets likes because those people are already following him because they like his shoes or something.

    The rest of us are not waiting around wondering what some celeb thinks.

    Guaranteed if thumbs down/dislikes worked, it would go against him if others bothered to follow. YouTube thumbs down doesn't do **** like it used to, only thumbs up or neutral.

    Do a real poll, actually do 20 random polls and see how most of us feel.
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    Originally Posted by TaeBoNinja View Post
    People don't view Vietnam as a justified war, so no one cares about draft dodgers. And really, the issue isn't Kaep vs Trump, its Kaep vs America. He's purposely saying he doesn't want to stand because of the country, which is why this is an easy win for Trump.

    I support Kaep's right to do this, but liberals are falling into an obvious trap by pig-backing Trump's tweets. Far more will side with Trump when it comes to respecting the anthem. Last poll I saw had Kaep support at around 30%.
    He literally went to Africa for the 4th of July because he didn't want to celebrate "racist America." These morons think middle America supports nonsense like that.

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    Originally Posted by EboBebo View Post
    Who wants to bet me

    That NFL ratings will be down at least 10% on average for this season (excluding Super Bowl) based upon nationally recognized sources, such as televised ratings excluding "views" on twitter or some bullsht like that.
    I won't take that bet, but I doubt it's the politics of a few players that are the problem. The NFL is pricing themselves out of business.
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    Come on libs. Take the bet. Goodell is on your side. You gots the kaepernicks
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    Originally Posted by BadMonkeyFunker View Post
    ??? learn to use internet.

    Lebron's tweet is NOT about kapernicks.. why are you even bringing it up ?
    Disregard, meant to quote WestAfrica from the post above yours.
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    Originally Posted by EboBebo View Post
    Come on libs. Take the bet. Goodell is on your side. You gots the kaepernicks
    You wanna bet Trump doesn't make a 2nd term?
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    Originally Posted by PSToolman View Post
    I won't take that bet, but I doubt it's the politics of a few players that are the problem. The NFL is pricing themselves out of business.
    Trump is only making people take sides. I guarantee more of America supports America than some liberal pipe dream
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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    You wanna bet Trump doesn't make a 2nd term?
    What odds are you giving me? You seem confident.
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    Originally Posted by TaeBoNinja View Post
    People don't view Vietnam as a justified war, so no one cares about draft dodgers. And really, the issue isn't Kaep vs Trump, its Kaep vs America. He's purposely saying he doesn't want to stand because of the country, which is why this is an easy win for Trump.

    I support Kaep's right to do this, but liberals are falling into an obvious trap by pig-backing Trump's tweets. Far more will side with Trump when it comes to respecting the anthem. Last poll I saw had Kaep support at around 30%.
    lefties: Vietnam war is illegal american imperialism and fascism!

    also lefties: dodging the draft is un-american!

    if we're pointing out hypocrisies, the left is millions of times worse
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    Originally Posted by cheerupemokid View Post
    He literally went to Africa for the 4th of July because he didn't want to celebrate "racist America." These morons think middle America supports nonsense like that.

    Look at Lebron's likes, bro! His likes!
    Pretty much. The whole optics of this debate is one side saying America is a horrible place, and the other side saying to show pride in this country. I don't think the president siding with the pro-America side will hurt him at all with most Americans.
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    Originally Posted by EboBebo View Post
    What odds are you giving me? You seem confident.
    Generally the way this works is the guy who needs odds because he's taking the worst of it, should come up with the line.
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    nope. keep coping...

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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    You wanna bet Trump doesn't make a 2nd term?
    Trump is a virtual lock for a 2nd term at this point.
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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    Generally the way this works is the guy who needs odds because he's taking the worst of it, should come up with the line.
    K

    It works like this then:

    1. Trump has to be the formal nominee
    2. If he's formally nominated, but he withdraws in say October 2020 I lose the bet.
    3. Presuming trump is the formal nominee, I want 6:1 odds.
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    Trump is a virtual lock for a 2nd term at this point.
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    Originally Posted by TaeBoNinja View Post
    Trump is a virtual lock for a 2nd term at this point.
    This^

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    He's right, you guys will prolly have Kanye West run, that's how pathetic you guys have gotten srs

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    Originally Posted by cashinout View Post
    lefties: Vietnam war is illegal american imperialism and fascism!

    also lefties: dodging the draft is un-american!

    if we're pointing out hypocrisies, the left is millions of times worse
    Both can be true. People are pointing out Trump's hypocrisy rather than expressing outrage at a draft dodger, but go ahead and miss the point.
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    Libs get pissed at Trumps "grab em by the pussy" comment, but ignore this creep copping feels on camera for 8 years
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    Originally Posted by WestAfrica View Post
    Why isn’t draft dodging five times a disrespect of the flag? Amazig stuff right? Maybe people would respect Trump more if he didn’t do/did the opposite of what he says/does. Kneeling/not standing for anthem vs. draft dodging, “likes his soldiers to not be captured”, “I’ve always wanted a Purple Heart, easiest way to get one”. How can what Trump does be respectful but what NFL players do be disrespectful.
    I've never disparaged anyone, liberal or conservative, Republican or Democrat for dodging the draft during Vietnam.


    If tomorrow we invaded North Korea in a bloody and costly ground war, how many liberals here would call those dodging a draft unpatriotic??? Zero. Let's not pretend otherwise

    You can respect your country's flag and anthem and at the same time, vehemently oppose the actions of the current government. The irony is if idiots like Bennett and Kaepernick really wanted to make an impact, they wouldn't drag their activism onto the field. Imagine how many more people they could reach and how many ears would bend if they respected the flag, and then in their personal time made their case for improving this country? A lot more.
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    Originally Posted by EboBebo View Post
    K

    It works like this then:

    1. Trump has to be the formal nominee
    2. If he's formally nominated, but he withdraws in say October 2020 I lose the bet.
    3. Presuming trump is the formal nominee, I want 6:1 odds.
    Lol, if Trump makes it that far, he's def better than 14%.

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    This^



    He's right, you guys will prolly have Kanye West run, that's how pathetic you guys have gotten srs

    Donald Trump makes more sense than that dotard.
    Wtf, you guys? I'm not a liberal, democrat, or voted for Hillary. Dude won't probably make it through 2018. Y'all just blind.
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    Originally Posted by Opportunist09 View Post
    Both can be true. People are pointing out Trump's hypocrisy rather than expressing outrage at a draft dodger, but go ahead and miss the point.
    no they can't, the first statement inherently implies that you do not view "being american" as launching illegal wars and instituting a draft

    you can't go on to say that not participating in said illegal war or draft is "un-american"
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    I've never disparaged anyone, liberal or conservative, Republican or Democrat for dodging the draft during Vietnam.


    If tomorrow we invaded North Korea in a bloody and costly ground war, how many liberals here would call those dodging a draft unpatriotic??? Zero. Let's not pretend otherwise

    You can respect your country's flag and anthem and at the same time, vehemently oppose the actions of the current government. The irony is if idiots like Bennett and Kaepernick really wanted to make an impact, they wouldn't drag their activism onto the field. Imagine how many more people they could reach and how many ears would bend if they respected the flag, and then in their personal time made their case for improving this country? A lot more.
    They are reaching more people doing this then any other way they could do it. If Kaep held a meeting in SF about the issue no one would care or talk about it. How many athletes have charities or support certain issues that you can name of? I doubt you can name a single one. How is one supposed to know that Larry Fitzgerald has a kids charity in Arizona? Kaep and Bennet by doing this get tens of millions of people talking about the issue.

    Link to Trump’s opposition to the Vietnam war. Was he advocating that he was against the war at the time or after the fact. Looking back now you can say that people could have dodged it seeing as how it turned out. What happened to serve if your country calls you?
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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    Lol, if Trump makes it that far, he's def better than 14%.



    Wtf, you guys? I'm not a liberal, democrat, or voted for Hillary. Dude won't probably make it through 2018. Y'all just blind.
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    The US Left/Liberals having been chitting on the US literally and figuratively since the 1960s. They got their Apology Tour with 8 years of inexperienced-community planner-President Obama.

    Now we aren't going to apologize anymore for who we are, a country built on the backs of Africans, Chinese, English, Indians, Irish, Italians, Japanese, Polish, Polynesians, Spanish, amongst many others, and accomplished so much in such a short time.

    Quit taking anecdotal incidents and exaggerate them as larger than they are.

    The ultimate irony is the US Left loves Europe, Asia, and the Middle East, but anyone that travels knows their socioal dynamic and racial divisions are far worse, and at 1930s type levels in places like the Middle East and Asia.

    Don't act like the English didn't own 75% of the world, don't act like the Dutch weren't money brokers for the Atlantic Slave Trade, and don't act like the Middle East and Asia weren't the first slave owners, and still have a huge part in the present day slave trade.

    No more, we aren't embarrassed to be Americans. The actions of one cop are not representive of all cops, the same way you says one terrorist doesn't represent an entire religion. Practice what you preach.

    BRB If you really cared about [Insert Color] Lives, you'd be just as upset about the regular shootings in US cities, not just when a cop shoots someone

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    -Quit being a snowflake

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    Originally Posted by TaeBoNinja View Post
    People don't view Vietnam as a justified war, so no one cares about draft dodgers. And really, the issue isn't Kaep vs Trump, its Kaep vs America. He's purposely saying he doesn't want to stand because of the country, which is why this is an easy win for Trump.

    I support Kaep's right to do this, but liberals are falling into an obvious trap by pig-backing Trump's tweets. Far more will side with Trump when it comes to respecting the anthem. Last poll I saw had Kaep support at around 30%.
    Again, white supremacists "some very fine people", professional athlete who protests "son of a bitch".
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    Originally Posted by cheerupemokid View Post
    He literally went to Africa for the 4th of July because he didn't want to celebrate "racist America." These morons think middle America supports nonsense like that.

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    I'll give you 6:1 today on Trump not getting a 2nd term.
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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    I'll give you 6:1 today on Trump not getting a 2nd term.
    Trump was already the nominee at that point. You scared to take my terms? My terms are easy, it's basically the same as the last election. Trump vs Hillary, except Hillary is replaced by someone else.
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