If only Conservatives ruled the US since 1776 where would we be today?

[LeoThedude]

Conservatives are the only thing stopping us from turning into a 3rd world country brah... I know the media just tells you all day that conservative=racist and nothing more but there's a lot more to it than that.

[Dave22reborn]

You could have just stopped with bigoted and poorly educated. The other two are merely superfluous imho.

Maybe if you keep repeating this lie, someone will actually believe you.

[Iceman1800]

Maybe if you keep repeating this lie, someone will actually believe you.

worked for trump....

[Dave22reborn]

worked for trump....

Works for every politician.

[PTzFree]

...I don't include me bc I'd be home in Mother Africa.

How do your Mother Africa goals plan to rationalize the fact that Africans sold each other into slavery and if you weren't here you just would have been sold to another country?

[SillieBazzillie]

Works for every politician.

You're suggesting I become a politician? CEO first my friend, after that who knows?

[ZenBowman]

The point of conservatism is to prevent the spread of bad ideas. The reason we uphold tradition is because we understand that we are not intelligent enough to know the consequences of most actions, and therefore, unless there is definite evidence in favor of a new course, we reject it.

If everyone was conservative, there would be no need for conservatism. Conservatism is not a utopian ideology, it is one forged in reaction to the "mood swings of humanity".

It shouldn't be surprising that most innovators are liberal, because liberals are psychologically open to more experiences. The issue is that a society based on always chasing the new leads to chaos. You need a large number of people dedicated to holding down the old order. In the words of Buckley, to stand on the rooftops and shout NO!.

[Dave22reborn]

You're suggesting I become a politician? CEO first my friend, after that who knows?

Sure thing guy, just don't forget to redistribute your money to the employees who work for you.

[WestAfrica]

hmmm lets see. well you would actually have MORE innovation considering conservatives believe in free market and less government regulations which leads to more innovation, not less. just because conservatives are in charge doesnt mean liberals couldnt be innovating in the private sector. government is not here to innovate. so actually the opposite is true op, if liberals are in charge you get less innovation. (for reference see any overwhelmingly liberal ran country)

if only conservatives ran the country since 1776:

- slavery would have ended even sooner
- no jim crow laws
- woman would have had the right to vote sooner
- no welfare state that created the perpetual plantation politics system that has actually kept black people down
- no extension of the great depression
- less wars considering democrats have gotten america into almost every major war other than iraq and the revolutionary war

man this country would be glorious if you eliminate all the fuk ups of democrat leaders. almost all if the major flaws in our nations history are at the hands of democrat leaders.

the founding fathers were “conservatives” (well libertarian i guess) so i think we should stick to their ideals as much as possible

See this is a good logical answer instead of those like Nutsy telling me to go back and stay in the alternate African reality.

[Twerk4it]

Lol I love how triggered conservatives get when someone says they dont innovate, because they know it’s true.

[BFast55]

In on Leftist circle jerk thread.

[SillieBazzillie]

Sure thing guy, just don't forget to redistribute your money to the employees who work for you.

You say this all the time, do you work for me or something? I mean, pretty sure I'd have fired someone of your caliber by now but who knows, maybe you've slipped through.

[SillieBazzillie]

In on Leftist circle jerk thread.

What would conservatives circle jerk about? A state religion and mandatory open carry? Maybe you'd do away with sewer and septic and just dump all your waste into the waterways like the corporations would?

[BFast55]

What would conservatives circle jerk about? A state religion and mandatory open carry? Maybe you'd do away with sewer and septic and just dump all your waste into the waterways like the corporations would?

Jesus Christ you are insane.

[zinkhan99]

Lol I love how triggered conservatives get when someone says they dont innovate, because they know it’s true.

Is this a new meme or something? One person said it and now all of you repeat it like a gospel.

[LeoThedude]

Jesus Christ you are insane.

White people going to the ends of the earth to prove they aren't racist is a fine example of mental illness.

[Twerk4it]

hmmm lets see. well you would actually have MORE innovation considering conservatives believe in free market and less government regulations which leads to more innovation, not less. just because conservatives are in charge doesnt mean liberals couldnt be innovating in the private sector. government is not here to innovate. so actually the opposite is true op, if liberals are in charge you get less innovation. (for reference see any overwhelmingly liberal ran country)

if only conservatives ran the country since 1776:

- slavery would have ended even sooner
- no jim crow laws
- woman would have had the right to vote sooner
- no welfare state that created the perpetual plantation politics system that has actually kept black people down
- no extension of the great depression
- less wars considering democrats have gotten america into almost every major war other than iraq and the revolutionary war

man this country would be glorious if you eliminate all the fuk ups of democrat leaders. almost all if the major flaws in our nations history are at the hands of democrat leaders.

the founding fathers were “conservatives” (well libertarian i guess) so i think we should stick to their ideals as much as possible

I’m confused, why are people associated with the right waving confederate flags today if they would’ve ended slavery sooner? It’s almost like you’re being dishonest about who the conservatives and liberals were back then.

[Metz00]

I’m confused, why are people associated with the right waving confederate flags today if they would’ve ended slavery sooner? It’s almost like you’re being dishonest about who the conservatives and liberals were back then.

It's based on the fact that the Republican Party abolished slavery and the Democrat Party pushed for the Jim Crow Laws afterwards.

The question is very difficult to answer because "conservative" needs to be defined.

1) Is it meant as the Republican Party of today or the original Republican Party of the past? Key players in the political party also influence policies and decisions.

2) Would it be conservatives as US-based conservatives or general political/social conservatives (since there is a cultural and social difference between US conservatism and non-US conservatism)?

[Twerk4it]

It's based on the fact that the Republican Party abolished slavery and the Democrat Party pushed for the Jim Crow Laws afterwards.

The question is very difficult to answer because "conservative" needs to be defined.

1) Is it meant as the Republican Party of today or the original Republican Party of the past?

2) Would it be conservatives as US-based conservatives or general political/social conservatives (since there is a cultural and social difference between US conservatism and non-US conservatism)?

But Republicans in the slavery and Jim Crow era =/= Republicans today, that we know. It’s not Democrats who wave the rebel flag claiming its their heritage today.

[Metz00]

But Republicans in the slavery and Jim Crow era =/= Republicans today, that we know. It’s not Democrats who wave the rebel flag claiming its their heritage today.

This helps explain how both parties changed after the Civil War.

https://www.livescience.com/34241-de...platforms.html

Democrats seized upon a way of ingratiating themselves to western voters: Republican federal expansions in the 1860s and 1870s had turned out favorable to big businesses based in the northeast, such as banks, railroads and manufacturers, while small-time farmers like those who had gone west received very little. Both parties tried to exploit the discontent this generated, by promising the little guy some of the federal largesse that had hitherto gone to the business sector. From this point on, Democrats stuck with this stance — favoring federally funded social programs and benefits — while Republicans were gradually driven to the counterposition of hands-off government.

From a business perspective, Rauchway pointed out, the loyalties of the parties did not really switch. "Although the rhetoric and to a degree the policies of the parties do switch places," he wrote, "their core supporters don't — which is to say, the Republicans remain, throughout, the party of bigger businesses; it's just that in the earlier era bigger businesses want bigger government and in the later era they don't."

In other words, earlier on, businesses needed things that only a bigger government could provide, such as infrastructure development, a currency and tariffs. Once these things were in place, a small, hands-off government became better for business.

[seven11]

This is pretty simple. Just compare the Top 20 most conservative countries and the Too 20 most liberal countries. That's should give you an idea.

[nn586]

Slavery would have ended a lot earlier I'll say that.

[anonymous]

If you would have stuck to the foundational principles in which your nation was founded on i.e Classical English liberalism, small central gov, bigger state power, low taxation, high levels of individual freedom.... I'm pretty sure you'd all be in a better place.

What was known as classical liberalism, is basically now seen as being conservatism. Just lol at how far astray we have gone.

[Dave22reborn]

You say this all the time, do you work for me or something? I mean, pretty sure I'd have fired someone of your caliber by now but who knows, maybe you've slipped through.

I bring it up because you claim that CEO's are overpaid, and the employees beneath them are underpaid. Of course you won't redistribute "your" wealth, if you ever become one, just like every other liberal hypocrite, it's to be expected.

You also bitch and moan about how there's too many white CEO'S, so what you should do, is reject the position, and let a person of color take your spot.

[Dave22reborn]

Also, from this thread, do liberals look down on people who are religious? Do they think they're backwards?

[Mumra]

and if liberals ran it we'd be living like your avg North Korean. everyone equally broke and starving with free healthcare.

[SillieBazzillie]

Also, from this thread, do liberals look down on people who are religious? Do they think they're backwards?

I can only answer for myself but that's a difficult question. I do not think people who have values that help others and our country. All that is great and how I live my life. Hence why I believe CEOs should be paid less and workers more, why all races are and should be treated equally, etc.

I do think people who believe there's a guy in the sky who will punish us when we die if we don't worship him are a little backwards.

[Dave22reborn]

I can only answer for myself but that's a difficult question. I do not think people who have values that help others and our country. All that is great and how I live my life. Hence why I believe CEOs should be paid less and workers more, why all races are and should be treated equally, etc.

I do think people who believe there's a guy in the sky who will punish us when we die if we don't worship him are a little backwards.

So Latinos, Muslims, Black Baptists, Hindus, are backwards? Or only white Christians?

[TDKSparda]

Also, from this thread, do liberals look down on people who are religious? Do they think they're backwards?

I don't look down on them because it's typically forced upon them.

If they are having children, yes.

[anonymous]

I don't look down on them because it's typically forced upon them.

If they are having children, yes.

ilmao. Going to have 6 children just for you bruh. All going to be conservative and moral individuals.