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    Originally Posted by sloop View Post
    Camrys and Accords are pulling away from the Mazda 6 [no pun] pretty quickly in terms of performance AND styling.

    Mazda better come through with something dope. Bring back the Speed6 and slay them both.

    In 2018 Mazda is making the mazda 6 with an option for the turbo 2.5 from the CX-9. 250 horsepower and 310 lb-ft of torque, brings it nearer the top end camry and accord.

    https://www.caranddriver.com/news/20...-and-info-news

    Most people are still going to get the base 4 cylinders with all 3 of these vehicles. My thing with the high end engine options on these 3 is you are looking at like $35k for the v6 or turbos, that is a lot of money for a camry/accord. The only crowd that really appeals to is those looking at a base luxery sedan, so it may be a good option versus a $45-50k sedan from lexus/infinity but if I am looking at just a performance car, I wouldnt be paying no $35k for a damn camry when you are getting into Mustang GT / Golf R / Focus RS territory.
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    Originally Posted by Xinroth View Post
    Do they both handle like boats?

    My Accord has impressive acceleration but handles like a 1990 buick. Wondering if the new 4cyl Turbo still has a ~5sec 0-60 but better handling, which is unlikely.
    mazda 6 always gets rave reviews for being "sporty". Mom has one and its slow as balls but I try putting it hard in corners and it can be fun in that regard, would benefit a lot from a bigger engine. Nothing close to my GTI though in terms of handling. I thought the reviews were way over rated but I guess compared to my old corolla its body roll is way better. I helped pick it out for her though based on comparing similar camry and accords and the over all safety package for the price, the GT model was nice that it had the lane warning chit all included in the GT level trim without having to different option packages. This was in 2017 before the redesigned camry and accord came out.


    I would be interested to see how the new turbo mazda 6 compares to the high end camry/accord with its handling and now competitive acceleration.
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    fuk i can't even afford a camry

    not this one at least
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    Originally Posted by d2mini View Post
    Toyota designers need to take a long walk off a short pier.
    That thing is an atrocity.
    They do look weird from the back with those cut outs behind the wheel arches
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    Originally Posted by elterrible987 View Post
    In 2018 Mazda is making the mazda 6 with an option for the turbo 2.5 from the CX-9. 250 horsepower and 310 lb-ft of torque, brings it nearer the top end camry and accord.

    https://www.caranddriver.com/news/20...-and-info-news

    Most people are still going to get the base 4 cylinders with all 3 of these vehicles. My thing with the high end engine options on these 3 is you are looking at like $35k for the v6 or turbos, that is a lot of money for a camry/accord. The only crowd that really appeals to is those looking at a base luxery sedan, so it may be a good option versus a $45-50k sedan from lexus/infinity but if I am looking at just a performance car, I wouldnt be paying no $35k for a damn camry when you are getting into Mustang GT / Golf R / Focus RS territory.
    Oh damn, nice!

    From the link

    "The forced-induction four-cylinder produces 250 horsepower and 310 lb-ft of torque when drinking a diet of 93-octane gasoline. Swap to regular fuel and the stable holds just 227 horses."
    Had no idea it makes that big of a difference.
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    Originally Posted by elterrible987 View Post
    I would be interested to see how the new turbo mazda 6 compares to the high end camry/accord with its handling and now competitive acceleration.
    My CX-9 does not feel like 7-seater SUV when I drive it. It accelerates very nicely for 4,250 lb thanks to the turbo design and the torque that comes with it. If they put the same engine into the ~3,300 lb Mazda6, Honda and Toyota might have something to be worried about.

    That said, since Mazda has pushed ACP/AA integration into 2019+, and the Accord now has an HUD, Mazda will continue to lag behind. I mean, you can still get AA by hacking the infotainment system, but ACP is out because (surprise, surprise) a proprietary chip is required to be able to run ACP on the hardware. It'll get the enthusiast nod, but the majority of buyers will probably end up in a Honda or Toyota.

    Imagine a 2019 Mazdaspeed 6 with the 2.5T, AWD, and 6-speed manual..

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    Originally Posted by rollerball View Post
    Tempted to trade in my 2017 WRX for the V6 model. Srs.
    Don't do it brah. From my experience, the FWD V6 can't handle the power, so when you're flooring it the wheels just spin before it can gain traction.
    The interior is pretty nice though.

    One thing I hate is that there is no 6 speed option on this, or the new Kia Stinger.

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    Originally Posted by sm1ke View Post
    My CX-9 does not feel like 7-seater SUV when I drive it. It accelerates very nicely for 4,250 lb thanks to the turbo design and the torque that comes with it. If they put the same engine into the ~3,300 lb Mazda6, Honda and Toyota might have something to be worried about.

    That said, since Mazda has pushed ACP/AA integration into 2019+, and the Accord now has an HUD, Mazda will continue to lag behind. I mean, you can still get AA by hacking the infotainment system, but ACP is out because (surprise, surprise) a proprietary chip is required to be able to run ACP on the hardware. It'll get the enthusiast nod, but the majority of buyers will probably end up in a Honda or Toyota.

    Imagine a 2019 Mazdaspeed 6 with the 2.5T, AWD, and 6-speed manual..

    From what I read the top trim turbo mazda 6 wont be available with manual, just the lower trims. I love AA in my VW, works really well, every now and then it wont connect and I have to reboot either the phone or head unit but its nice using google maps vs car gps software. I can control pandora and google maps through it at the same time, its awesome. Waze is supported but seems like it always crashes, I'll wait until waze gets better AA support.

    I agree though that with that power, its newer interior, if it had awd, manual and AA/ACP would help it compete against more expensive luxury cars in the 45-55k range. When youre around 35k youre no longer competing against the all the other 20-30k vehicles like the base mazda 6 is.

    Originally Posted by rollerball View Post
    Tempted to trade in my 2017 WRX for the V6 model. Srs.
    Thats something that can really only be answered with a test drive. When reviewers are calling these family sedans "sporty" its all relative. The new camry has better handling compared to the last gen camry, its not going to be anything like your WRX, even if its straight line acceleration numbers on paper are similar.


    Originally Posted by Xinroth View Post
    The car looks ridiculously good irl.

    Neighbor has it in white.

    I don't regret my v6 Accord coupe purchase but if i was to recommend a new car, Camry > Accord for 2018. Honda being 'super reliable' is a myth now.
    One thing I will miss about my 2005 corolla, thing was bullet proof. Literally nothing broke and only basic maintenance for 12 years. Mom had one too and was a little lacking on preventative maintenance beyond oil changes, car having trouble starting up, just cleaned out the throttle body and MAF sensor and 10 minutes later, working like new, 90k miles and nothing ever broke.

    Had terrible body roll but compared to modern econo boxes the steering was way better just because hydraulic steering felt so much better than cheaply done electronic steering. The newer gen corollas steering have no feeling at all.
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    Originally Posted by Chronic23 View Post
    Don't do it brah. From my experience, the FWD V6 can't handle the power, so when you're flooring it the wheels just spin before it can gain traction.
    The interior is pretty nice though.

    One thing I hate is that there is no 6 speed option on this, or the new Kia Stinger.

    Yeah there will have to be wheel spin. No way to avoid it unless the computer alters the throttle input to reduce it if it senses traction loss or some ****ery like that. My non tuned GTI will get wheel spin in the lower gears if you floor it.
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    Originally Posted by elterrible987 View Post
    From what I read the top trim turbo mazda 6 wont be available with manual, just the lower trims. I love AA in my VW, works really well, every now and then it wont connect and I have to reboot either the phone or head unit but its nice using google maps vs car gps software. I can control pandora and google maps through it at the same time, its awesome. Waze is supported but seems like it always crashes, I'll wait until waze gets better AA support.

    I agree though that with that power, its newer interior, if it had awd, manual and AA/ACP would help it compete against more expensive luxury cars in the 45-55k range. When youre around 35k youre no longer competing against the all the other 20-30k vehicles like the base mazda 6 is.



    Thats something that can really only be answered with a test drive. When reviewers are calling these family sedans "sporty" its all relative. The new camry has better handling compared to the last gen camry, its not going to be anything like your WRX, even if its straight line acceleration numbers on paper are similar.




    One thing I will miss about my 2005 corolla, thing was bullet proof. Literally nothing broke and only basic maintenance for 12 years. Mom had one too and was a little lacking on preventative maintenance beyond oil changes, car having trouble starting up, just cleaned out the throttle body and MAF sensor and 10 minutes later, working like new, 90k miles and nothing ever broke.

    Had terrible body roll but compared to modern econo boxes the steering was way better just because hydraulic steering felt so much better than cheaply done electronic steering. The newer gen corollas steering have no feeling at all.
    I am happy to hear your corolla experience and longevity. I bought a 2012 Scion tC, brand new ordered for me with all the stupid little things. 130k miles later, ive done literally nothing except 10k oil changes, and brake change at 80k and one set of tires 40k (getting new tires now at 130k) still has 4/32 tread. Did do coolant and plugs and manual gear lube replacement at 100k.

    Been super reliable, @ 32mpg and doesn't leak a drop of oil. Hope I get 7 more years atleast out of it. What I gather is the Scion tC is basically a corolla.
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    Originally Posted by FreedomPenguin View Post
    I am happy to hear your corolla experience and longevity. I bought a 2012 Scion tC, brand new ordered for me with all the stupid little things. 130k miles later, ive done literally nothing except 10k oil changes, and brake change at 80k and one set of tires 40k (getting new tires now at 130k) still has 4/32 tread. Did do coolant and plugs and manual gear lube replacement at 100k.

    Been super reliable, @ 32mpg and doesn't leak a drop of oil. Hope I get 7 more years atleast out of it. What I gather is the Scion tC is basically a corolla.

    yeah only real issue was the clear coat and then paint started to go on the roof. That was after about 10 years though. I looked at repainting it but paint was really expensive in hawaii so after having it 12 years I just sold it with rust roof to a friend who needed a cheat reliable beater for 2 years. Was super easy to sell due to its reputation, people at work were asking if I was selling it when I was moving, so I didnt have to bother with craigslist weirdos.

    And yes the TC is an all toyota car with a toyota engine, not like the FRS/86 with subaru engine/parts. The first gen TC had the same engine as the base camry at the time. The 2nd gen has a different toyota engine which Im sure is used in other vehicles too.
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    Originally Posted by elterrible987 View Post
    Thats something that can really only be answered with a test drive. When reviewers are calling these family sedans "sporty" its all relative. The new camry has better handling compared to the last gen camry, its not going to be anything like your WRX, even if its straight line acceleration numbers on paper are similar.
    Yeah a test drive would definitely be necessary beforehand. I find the interior of the new Camry to be very attractive but if the car is too boat-y or the FWD is poor at handling the V6 then I'd have to pass.
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    Its one of the best looking cars out right now


    so many cars lacking styling/ inspiration. Sedan market is struggling - Toyota made a bold move and this one is A+
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    So much torque driving in this car it doesn't even feel like a 300hp car. More like 260hp with a chit ton of wheel spin. The accord turbo handles power way better.
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    Originally Posted by elterrible987 View Post
    Yeah there will have to be wheel spin. No way to avoid it unless the computer alters the throttle input to reduce it if it senses traction loss or some ****ery like that. My non tuned GTI will get wheel spin in the lower gears if you floor it.
    hell, my hyundai sonata does wheel spin from a stop and it chirps its tires from 2nd to 3rd if I'm in "manual sport mode"
    i would take her temperature with my beef thermometer.
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    Looks good. Id personally still choose the accord 2.0t though if i was looking for a new sporty/comfy front wheel drive, family, work, daily. No honda fanboy (have owned toyotas and hondas). Easy tune will make more power than the camry.
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