Flat bench: Rogue vs others (elitefts, rep, etc)

[bb5150]

Is it just me or does it look like the front foot plate isn't flat on the ground? Wobble?

Oh, and a friendly reminder from Rogue's flat bench:

A set of attachable rubber feet are also now included with each order, replacing the original plastic caps. These attachments not only add another stabilizing element, but also protect your flooring from scrapes and scuffs.

Interesting. Glad they are concerned about floor protection. Good on them!

[chadsalt]

Interesting. Glad they are concerned about floor protection. Good on them!

Only thing interesting is how many of those wobbly benches they've sold. Using just flat tube as a foot requires both the tube and floor to be pretty flat for a stable bench, neither are likely. Adding the feet changes to four contact points, greatly increasing the likelihood of being stable.

[RestoringTally]

Only thing interesting is how many of those wobbly benches they've sold. Using just flat tube as a foot requires both the tube and floor to be pretty flat for a stable bench, neither are likely. Adding the feet changes to four contact points, greatly increasing the likelihood of being stable.

Not really. The most stable platform is a tripod.

If a floor is not perfectly flat, four points of contact will have wobble. With three points of contact, there will not be any wobble regardless of any unevenness of the floor.

If the single foot is not perfectly flat, the lowest point will contact the floor. That bottom foot should be sufficiently rigid that it does not flex. With a flat bench, there should not be any lateral force above the single foot, which is where the lifter's feet should be. Any lateral force should be applied at the other end, which is where stability is needed. Don't want the bench tipping while bench pressing.

[chadsalt]

Not really. The most stable platform is a tripod.

If a floor is not perfectly flat, four points of contact will have wobble. With three points of contact, there will not be any wobble regardless of any unevenness of the floor.

If the single foot is not perfectly flat, the lowest point will contact the floor. That bottom foot should be sufficiently rigid that it does not flex. With a flat bench, there should not be any lateral force above the single foot, which is where the lifter's feet should be. Any lateral force should be applied at the other end, which is where stability is needed. Don't want the bench tipping while bench pressing.

Not really what? You need to look at the Rogue bench in question, I'm not debating 3 vs 4.

[RestoringTally]

Not really what? You need to look at the Rogue bench in question, I'm not debating 3 vs 4.

Sorry, but I thought you were commenting on Reps 3 foot vs. 4 foot bench, which is what most of the last part of this thread has been discussing other than one poster's somewhat obsessive comment about rubber feet.

[chadsalt]

Sorry, but I thought you were commenting on Reps 3 foot vs. 4 foot bench, which is what most of the last part of this thread has been discussing other than one poster's somewhat obsessive comment about rubber feet.

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[Bench905]

Ordered the Rep FB-5000 today.

[vhd16]

Ordered the Rep FB-5000 today.

Nice. Should be in PA by EOD friday knowing how fast Rep ships?. Cannot wait for your feedback

[urbanlifter]

Good luck Bench, seems impossible to go wrong with the future upgrade deal AND it being Thompson compatible!

[Bench905]

Good luck Bench, seems impossible to go wrong with the future upgrade deal AND it being Thompson compatible!

Yeah, it has a lot going for it...I'm constantly pulling my Rogue 2.0 flat bench out of the rack...and it will be a lot easier to do so with a handle and wheels. Plus, I'm at 20"+ with my current setup (Rogue Flat 2.0 + Thompson Fat Pad).

[urbanlifter]

Yeah, it has a lot going for it...I'm constantly pulling my Rogue 2.0 flat bench out of the rack...and it will be a lot easier to do so with a handle and wheels. Plus, I'm at 20"+ with my current setup (Rogue Flat 2.0 + Thompson Fat Pad).

Win/Win, toss the REP 12" pad on the Rogue and by the time you flip it the REP frame will cost next to nothing.

That the plan?

[thejosef]

Yeah, it has a lot going for it...I'm constantly pulling my Rogue 2.0 flat bench out of the rack...and it will be a lot easier to do so with a handle and wheels. Plus, I'm at 20"+ with my current setup (Rogue Flat 2.0 + Thompson Fat Pad).

Man, they can sell a lot of these if the Thompson bolts right on and the height is right.. Let us know how you like it Bench!

[kram1979]

Ordered the Rep FB-5000 today.

Same!

Shipping was a bit of a hit to NJ...but if I like it, I'll flip my Elitefts bench & it should be almost a wash...

[Domicron]

Ordered the Rep FB-5000 today.

will be interested to see how it compares to the other benches you've owned

[Bench905]

Win/Win, toss the REP 12" pad on the Rogue and by the time you flip it the REP frame will cost next to nothing.

That the plan?

That's the plan. It'll be the 3rd pad on that Rogue bench. It had the original Rogue pad when i bought it new, then I found a Rogue 1.0 Flat with Fat Pad off CL, swapped pads and sold the 1.0, now the Rep pad. I'm hoping everything will fit nicely and then the Rogue will hit CL.

[MGM711]

This REP Comp Bench is pretty much exactly what I was hoping for! I'm going to be very curious to hear the reviews on it, that is if I can hold off from buying one until then.

[jormone]

Nice photoshop work on that front foot.

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[thejosef]

Nice photoshop work on that front foot.

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New

Move on if you think it's an issue. Is this actually a big deal? Maybe their floor wasn't level? Did you see the price on this bench?? This thing has three legs. There is absolutely zero chance that it's not solid even if that front foot was shaped like a "U". Again, did you see the price on this???

[jormone]

Move on if you think it's an issue. Is this actually a big deal? Maybe their floor wasn't level? Did you see the price on this bench?? This thing has three legs. There is absolutely zero chance that it's not solid even if that front foot was shaped like a "U". Again, did you see the price on this???

If it wasn't an issue it wouldn't have been photoshopped. I don't really care, it is just "interesting"...

[Bench905]

Got my shipping notice for the FB-5000. Hopefully will get it by the weekend (CO to PA).

[kram1979]

Got my shipping notice for the FB-5000. Hopefully will get it by the weekend (CO to PA).

Looks like yours will arrive just before mine. To NJ it'll get here Monday.

[Bench905]

Looks like yours will arrive just before mine. To NJ it'll get here Monday.

Nope, Monday for me too unfortunately.

[fingerguy]

I shopped and researched tons of options including Craigslist. I decided on this and do not regret it. I ALMOST went with their $900-plus version but after a lot of research this one is solid and in some ways better than the $900 version. Just depends on how you are planning to use it.



Side fact: I found this review (actually an explanation) on YouTube and called the guy out on it. First he replied saying he wanted his clients to see how to adjust it (which a monkey can adjust this thing) and then about a day later removed the video. If I remember right it was up for at least 2 years.

[vhd16]

Alright, ordered the FB-5000 couple of hours ago. Could not wait for the reviews. If Mech magically comes back then it would be killer

Duke,

as per the grippy vinyl pad vs fat pad , can we wait to inform you guys until you have them stock. I have not made up my mind yet.

[dukenukem7777]

Alright, ordered the FB-5000 couple of hours ago. Could not wait for the reviews. If Mech magically comes back then it would be killer

Duke,

as per the grippy vinyl pad vs fat pad , can we wait to inform you guys until you have them stock. I have not made up my mind yet.

Yes, the idea was that if you don't like the pad it comes with, here's a replacement for minimal cost. So you have time. We have the new pad here and will put up some close-up pics soon so people can see the texture on it.

[vhd16]

Yes, the idea was that if you don't like the pad it comes with, here's a replacement for minimal cost. So you have time. We have the new pad here and will put up some close-up pics soon so people can see the texture on it.

Thanks. Makes sense. Will send e-mail to stated e-mail address with my order no. If i go i will go with fat pad. The question is do i want 12" pad or 15" pad? Not really concerned about the grippy nature of vinyl. It is not like i am benching 405 or something.

I should have waited to combine this with the new SS bar. But now still debating on new SS bar.

[kram1979]

Thanks. Makes sense. Will send e-mail to stated e-mail address with my order no. If i go i will go with fat pad. The question is do i want 12" pad or 15" pad? Not really concerned about the grippy nature of vinyl. It is not like i am benching 405 or something.

I should have waited to combine this with the new SS bar. But now still debating on new SS bar.

Glad you posted this! I missed that little part on the website about emailing them. 👍👍

[BYOBB]

The statement in bold is asinine. One bench can not offer 3 feet and 4 feet designs, two completely different animals. Rubber feet or not.

The extra $$ for the comp bench is worth it for the fat pad upgrade alone.

In your opinion, what is the benefit of a 4 foot design bench compared to a 3 foot design? I asked Mech6 about this at some point and he mentioned that a 4-foot design can be more cost effective if its symmetrical. But in terms of functionality, even a 4 foot Nebula isn't immune to slight wobbliness on a less than level floor.

[chadsalt]

In your opinion, what is the benefit of a 4 foot design bench compared to a 3 foot design? I asked Mech6 about this at some point and he mentioned that a 4-foot design can be more cost effective if its symmetrical. But in terms of functionality, even a 4 foot Nebula isn't immune to slight wobbliness on a less than level floor.

My opinion, experience, and personal preference YMMV....

3 foot is fine for dedicated barbell BP, it's also the most likely to be stable on wavy floors.

I prefer 4 foot for DB work, general utility bench. Examples, I've had 3 foot try to dump me during DB row and flat press. During rows I was at the single leg end, bench tipped. For press I sat down about half a butt cheek off center (I kick DB into place like a man, ) and again it tipped. Neither incident ended in a wreck, but I have no confidence in that arrangement.

I see merit in both designs.

[BYOBB]

My opinion, experience, and personal preference YMMV....

3 foot is fine for dedicated barbell BP, it's also the most likely to be stable on wavy floors.

I prefer 4 foot for DB work, general utility bench. Examples, I've had 3 foot try to dump me during DB row and flat press. During rows I was at the single leg end, bench tipped. For press I sat down about half a butt cheek off center (I kick DB into place like a man, ) and again it tipped. Neither incident ended in a wreck, but I have no confidence in that arrangement.

I see merit in both designs.

Fair enough, I hadn't considered the benefit of 4 feet for unilateral lifts.