Flat bench: Rogue vs others (elitefts, rep, etc)

[pbk3jg0]

Decided to get rid of my Rogue flat utility 2.0 and get either the Titan bench (currently on sale for $99 with free shipping) or the Atlas bench (https://www.slamballfitness.com/prod...ch-with-wheels) for $110 + tax.
I would have to drive like 2 hours back and forth to pick up the atlas bench.

What do you guys think? Which is the better choice?

[Domicron]

why are you wanting to downgrade? wheels?

[krlafont]

Which is the better choice?

Keeping the rogue

[pbk3jg0]

The reason is because I wanted a bench that was shorter and had wheels.
Rogue brand is nice, but not necessary since my rack is Titan anyway.

[chadsalt]

why are you wanting to downgrade? wheels?

If anyone wants to wheels on a 40# bench, they need to spend more time moving the bench.

Keeping the rogue

Yes.

[pbk3jg0]

Keeping the rogue

Flipped the Rogue. I don't want a 18" bench. Didn't want to mess with putting plates or mats on the floor. Also I like the wheels on the bench so I could move it quickly.

[Domicron]

If anyone wants to wheels on a 40# bench, they need to spend more time moving the bench.

that's what i was thinking.

Flipped the Rogue. I don't want a 18" bench. Didn't want to mess with putting plates or mats on the floor. Also I like the wheels on the bench so I could move it quickly.

how short are you? my first bench was 19.5" off the ground and it worked fine. sure it wasn't ideal, but it wasn't the end of the world either. certainly not enough reason to upgrade (replacing it with commercial WAS a good reason). i'm only 5'6.

i think a lot of people overestimate bench height. yes it can be a factor, and it's more important if you're lifting really heavy and/or competing, but i think people really blow it out of proportion.

[vhd16]

Flipped the Rogue. I don't want a 18" bench. Didn't want to mess with putting plates or mats on the floor. Also I like the wheels on the bench so I could move it quickly.

I have the Atlas bench. It is actually 17" in height. Not sure what you are gaining by going from Rogue to Atlas. I was thinking going in opposite direction but bigger things first

You get used Rogue one between $75 to $100.

[pbk3jg0]

that's what i was thinking.



how short are you? my first bench was 19.5" off the ground and it worked fine. sure it wasn't ideal, but it wasn't the end of the world either. certainly not enough reason to upgrade (replacing it with commercial WAS a good reason). i'm only 5'6.

i think a lot of people overestimate bench height. yes it can be a factor, and it's more important if you're lifting really heavy and/or competing, but i think people really blow it out of proportion.

I'm a little under 6' but maybe I'm short legged lol.

I use an elitefts at the gym I go to as well as a rogue which is 18".
I felt noticeably better on the elitefts which is 17.25".
It could be just my feeling but I'm trying to improve my leg drive so I didn't want a 18" bench.

[BYOBB]

I'm a little under 6' but maybe I'm short legged lol.

I use an elitefts at the gym I go to as well as a rogue which is 18".
I felt noticeably better on the elitefts which is 17.25".
It could be just my feeling but I'm trying to improve my leg drive so I didn't want a 18" bench.

I'm with you, the Atlas and EFS flat bench are much better designs than the Rogue. The only issue with the EFS is a lack of wheels and a handle. I figure that the Rogue flat bench sells too well for them to bother redesigning it. The Rogue Adjustable 2.0 in the flat position is close to a perfect design for a flat bench, right down to the height which matches a powerlifting competition bench. In my mind, it's an obvious decision to redesign the flat bench to match the Adjustable 2.0.

why are you wanting to downgrade? wheels?

I disagree that it's a downgrade unless OP is benching very serious weight. And in that case I would recommend an EFS bench instead.

[bean438]

Ramcharger


Just wondering about those three “tabs” that support the pad.....
Are they welded to the frame, and the pad is bolted through to the pad?

Or are the metal tabs attached to the pad backer board?

How sturdy is the pad?

[Cleveland33]

If anyone wants to wheels on a 40# bench, they need to spend more time moving the bench.



Yes.

On spread.

Never move to a commercial flat then

[thejosef]

When did this come out? Looks beastly!

https://www.repfitness.com/strength-...ion-flat-bench

[irongrandpa]

When did this come out? Looks beastly!

https://www.repfitness.com/strength-...ion-flat-bench

That does look like a nice addition to the flat bench options. I picked up a Rep 3000 flat bench last month on CL and I'm happy with it after cutting 2" of each side of the front cross piece, I like the single post of this new bench even better , plus the heavier steel and thicker pad.

[urbanlifter]

On spread.

Never move to a commercial flat then

Yeah, and grip plates are stupid too. Like, it's just 45lbs so why does Ivanko bother putting holes in their Revolvers. Ipso facto, revolver owners are weak.....

[chadsalt]

Yeah, and grip plates are stupid too. Like, it's just 45lbs so why does Ivanko bother putting holes in their Revolvers. Ipso facto, revolver owners are weak.....

I thought all those grip plates were the fake weights everyone is talking about. How can they weigh 45 with the holes in them????

[urbanlifter]

How can they weigh 45 with the holes in them????

Mind = Blown! Haha

Side note, that REP bench looks pretty serious!

[kram1979]

Mind = Blown! Haha

Side note, that REP bench looks pretty serious!

Alllllmost pulled the trigger.. Especially with the option for the upgraded gripper pad later on for $50. Still debating..

[jormone]

When did this come out? Looks beastly!

https://www.repfitness.com/strength-...ion-flat-bench

Is it just me or does it look like the front foot plate isn't flat on the ground? Wobble?

Oh, and a friendly reminder from Rogue's flat bench:

A set of attachable rubber feet are also now included with each order, replacing the original plastic caps. These attachments not only add another stabilizing element, but also protect your flooring from scrapes and scuffs.

[urbanlifter]

Is it just me or does it look like the front foot plate isn't flat on the ground? Wobble?

The AB-3100 front foot isn't 100% flat either, but it doesn't seem to effect the stability. After looking closer that picture does make it look pretty significant though, more than a couple light taps with a hammer will be needed to fix that.

[dukenukem7777]

Is it just me or does it look like the front foot plate isn't flat on the ground? Wobble?

Oh, and a friendly reminder from Rogue's flat bench:

We already have a bench with 4 feet and rubber for those who want that.
This one is similar to the Atlas that had been sold for a while with a lot of good reviews,
and none mentioning stability issues that I can recall. You basically don't need the front foot to be level unless you intend on sitting on the front edge of the bench and moving side to side. Once you lay down,
no issues.

That said, if we get enough people complaining about it then we can always change it and add a rubber sleeve with 4 gauge bolt down add-ons and a suspension system with anchors and wire that hook into the wall on either side of the bench.

[jormone]

We already have a bench with 4 feet and rubber for those who want that.
This one is similar to the Atlas that had been sold for a while with a lot of good reviews,
and none mentioning stability issues that I can recall. You basically don't need the front foot to be level unless you intend on sitting on the front edge of the bench and moving side to side. Once you lay down,
no issues.
That said, if we get enough people complaining about it then we can always change it and add a rubber sleeve with 4 gauge bolt down add-ons and a suspension system with anchors and wire that hook into the wall on either side of the bench.

I don't need the front foot to be level? But am I allowed to want it to be level?

We have different goals when commenting on products. You are defending a bench as being good enough at this price point (which it probably is!). I notice the things that could potentially be improved (within reason, taking note of the price point).

The rubber slippers available on other benches might have concealed the slightly warped foot of this one (but a flat foot would be ideal). And why would customers want to choose between two flat benches with different features when one bench could easily offer all features without trade-offs? (I am assuming the 4-footed bench is not more stable than this one)

[BYOBB]

I don't need the front foot to be level? But am I allowed to want it to be level?

We have different goals when commenting on products. You are defending a bench as being good enough at this price point (which it probably is!). I notice the things that could potentially be improved (within reason, taking note of the price point).

The rubber slippers available on other benches might have concealed the slightly warped foot of this one (but a flat foot would be ideal). And why would customers want to choose between two flat benches with different features when one bench could easily offer all features without trade-offs? (I am assuming the 4-footed bench is not more stable than this one)

I agree with the statement in bold. Though the 4-foot bench that Rep sells is $99 vs $119 for this competition bench. Is the price difference large enough to justify two different benches? I think the Rep competition bench is a great design at a great price either way.

[Bench905]

That competition rep bench looks sweet.

[chadsalt]

I agree with the statement in bold. Though the 4-foot bench that Rep sells is $99 vs $119 for this competition bench. Is the price difference large enough to justify two different benches? I think the Rep competition bench is a great design at a great price either way.

The statement in bold is asinine. One bench can not offer 3 feet and 4 feet designs, two completely different animals. Rubber feet or not.

The extra $$ for the comp bench is worth it for the fat pad upgrade alone.

[thejosef]

That competition rep bench looks sweet.

Yeah, I agree. Seriously tempted to try this thing out.

[Bench905]

Yeah, I agree. Seriously tempted to try this thing out.

I think I'm going to order it. Just sent them an e-mail to confirm pad compatibility.

[thejosef]

i think i'm going to order it. Just sent them an e-mail to confirm pad compatibility.

nice!

[bb5150]

The rep competition bench does seem sweet. What happened to the prototype pics Duke posted where the fat bench pad looks tapered almost coffin shaped



where it was wider near your head and shoulders? Seemed like that was a great idea.

EDIT: I found Duke's prototype pic. Maybe this is what the FB-5000 will look like with the fat pad?



The wobbly foot would bug me for sure. Nothing a piece of rubber couldn't fix though lolz. I got my Rep Fitness FB3000 and all 4 rubber feet make this bench rock solid and no wobble. It's all about the rubber feet. My favorite part of the bench actually.

[vhd16]

I think I'm going to order it. Just sent them an e-mail to confirm pad compatibility.

Thanks Bench. I was debating after reading MGM711 feedback on Fat pad . Will wait for your feedback. Not that it matters , the front foot wobble/gap would bug me even though it may not effect functionality. For me both "aesthetics" and functionality matter

Btw, ,I don't need fatpad touch wood no shoulder issues yet. Planning on prevention route rather than cure route.

Duke,

Is there a option to fix the wobble by adding rubber feet or something?