EVERYTHING Mayweather VS McGregor thread

[Towerworld]

They're just breaking down what knowledgeable boxing minds already know. Conor is going to be frustrated and very confused, and doesn't have the experience to thoroughly compete with Mayweather. I did like how Chris pointed out the jab to the body being an essential tool to Conor's demise, which is something I pointed out in my assessment.

If it was that easy Conor wouldn't have destroyed him and Malignaggi in sparring.

[Gainzzz]

so many aspy opinions ITT jesus fuk

[weddingsoup]

dopey floyd thinks conor is "extremely heavy" and won't make weight. kavanagh said on the mma hour that conor is a little below 170 right now.

it goes to show how little floyd knows about mma, since this is an easy cut for conor compared to his 145 days.

fukin lol at being dumbfounded by conor dropping 10 pounds -- it's actually probably more like 12-15 -- in a week. mma fighters are used to cutting drastic amounts of weight during fight week.

boxing dopes, when will they learn?

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...ll-make-weight

[Gainzzz]

dopey floyd thinks conor is "extremely heavy" and won't make weight. kavanagh said on the mma hour that conor is a little below 170 right now.

it goes to show how little floyd knows about mma, since this is an easy cut for conor compared to his 145 days.

fukin lol at being dumbfounded by conor dropping 10 pounds -- it's actually probably more like 12-15 -- in a week. mma fighters are used to cutting drastic amounts of weight during fight week.

boxing dopes, when will they learn?

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...ll-make-weight

they're baffled by everything Conor does it's absolutely glorious.

welcome to the 21st century, boxing pussies.

[DrewDarden]

they're baffled by everything Conor does it's absolutely glorious.

welcome to the 21st century, boxing pussies.

Well yeah, it's fairly well-known that boxers don't cut nearly as much weight as athletes do in other weight-cutting sports.

It is funny how he thinks ten pounds is a lot of weight with four days left.

[NorthernLad93]

https://www.********.com/ufceurope/v...5771239792155/

McGregor looking shook in this interview. He has no more words to say. The sheer magnitude of this event is starting to dawn on him.

Most of the time before a fight, he does a pretty good job in looking like he truly believes the **** he says.

But I look in his eyes when he says he's going to ruin Floyd in the first exchange... and I know he doesn't believe it.

Conor McGregor's days are numbered.

Now, he is quiet. And we have reached the deep breath before the plunge.

[weddingsoup]

https://www.********.com/ufceurope/v...5771239792155/

McGregor looking shook in this interview. He has no more words to say. The sheer magnitude of this event is starting to dawn on him.

Most of the time before a fight, he does a pretty good job in looking like he truly believes the **** he says.

But I look in his eyes when he says he's going to ruin Floyd in the first exchange... and I know he doesn't believe it.

Conor McGregor's days are numbered.

Now, he is quiet. And we have reached the deep breath before the plunge.

you are grasping at straws, boyo.

go look at the final presser before the aldo fight; same coldness and lack of emotion.



then this happened:

[cgc]

https://www.********.com/ufceurope/v...5771239792155/

McGregor looking shook in this interview. He has no more words to say. The sheer magnitude of this event is starting to dawn on him.

Most of the time before a fight, he does a pretty good job in looking like he truly believes the **** he says.

But I look in his eyes when he says he's going to ruin Floyd in the first exchange... and I know he doesn't believe it.

Conor McGregor's days are numbered.

Now, he is quiet. And we have reached the deep breath before the plunge.

Did you virtually copy and paste this from every thread before every fight he's had in the UFC? Cause it's pretty much the same song and dance everyone says before a Conor fight

I think the odds are stacked against Conor....but I'm not going to completely count the guy out. No one thought he stood a chance against Aldo, and he beat him in what - 13 seconds?

[PeaceWithin]

I have mostly stayed out of the previous threads except to lawl at all the rustling.

Watched about 8 Mayweather fights, and have already seen almost all of Conor's fights.


Goodnight sweet Irish prince. Mayweather is just the pure embodiment of boxing. Movement, hand speed, anticipation. You can see how instinctual he is when he fights. Effortlessly picked apart the people I watched.



All that said... Trump is president. The superbowl was a chit show. Leicester City won against all odds. Cubs got the World Series. If there was ever a time for an upset, it would appear this is it. I'll give Conor whatever the odds were for Leicester city. Lol. So 5000-1

[Gainzzz]

I have mostly stayed out of the previous threads except to lawl at all the rustling.

Watched about 8 Mayweather fights, and have already seen almost all of Conor's fights.


Goodnight sweet Irish prince. Mayweather is just the pure embodiment of boxing. Movement, hand speed, anticipation. You can see how instinctual he is when he fights. Effortlessly picked apart the people I watched.



All that said... Trump is president. The superbowl was a chit show. Leicester City won against all odds. Cubs got the World Series. If there was ever a time for an upset, it would appear this is it. I'll give Conor whatever the odds were for Leicester city. Lol. So 5000-1

did you see the fight where Floyd was 40 years old with busted hands coming off a two year layoff and shoulder surgery?

[Millington]

It is funny how he thinks ten pounds is a lot of weight with four days left.

He doesn't, it's not unusual and he knows it. Most boxers don't engage in the same level of reckless cutting as MMA but 10 lbs a week out isn't exceptional. I think it's just an attempt to create a little more intrigue -- 'omg conor is going to come in HUUUUUGE' 'omg will conor even make weight!?' etc. Anything to add a little uncertainty. Floyd is trying to represent himself as an old twink and conor as a mini celtic adonis.

[PeaceWithin]

did you see the fight where Floyd was 40 years old with busted hands coming off a two year layoff and shoulder surgery?

Did you see the other 49 fights where Floyd does not take a fight unless he is sure he will win? He has dodged some people in the boxing world at convenient times, but if he is 40 years old with busted hands, a two year layoff, and shoulder surgery and he decides to take a fight, it was for a reason.

Dude is so full of himself, his brand, and his special level of vanity, do you really think he would take a fight he had risk of losing and NOT get 50-0. Would've just fought some regular boxing schmuck punching bag for it if he didn't think he could beat Conor.




EDIT: Conor has the same chance of walking into high level boxing (relatively unprepared) as he does any other specialty.

Brb, going to try my hand at top level jiujitsu

Brb, want to become #1 in judo in just a few months

Brb, can't wait to show you how good my greco-roman wrestling is, bring on the gold medal champ plz

Brb, may as well go try out for the MLB like Tim Tebow did.

[Exane]

Goodnight sweet Irish prince. Mayweather is just the pure embodiment of boxing. Movement, hand speed, anticipation. You can see how instinctual he is when he fights. Effortlessly picked apart the people I watched.

The discussions and the lead up to this fight reminds me so much of the Aldo fight. Substitute boxing for MMA and Mayweather for Aldo^ and you have pretty much what everyone who was a respected MMA enthusiast here or anywhere else, was saying before Aldo vs McGregor.

If you didn't subscribe to that, you were "McNugget nut huger" and laughed at. Hardly any, if any at all, legitimate discussions were had... just mostly both sides hurling insults back and forth. And that's pretty much this Forum right now, except we have turned it into Boxing vs MMA.

On paper and in the books, you should be putting your money on Mayweather. There is no real doubt. But, on paper you should have put your money on Aldo because he had every tool and skill to beat McGregor too.



As someone who has been a life long Athlete, sports have taught me a lot, about myself and about the world/life. One of the toughest lessons I have ever learned was to never take an opponent lightly. If you want to win, to be the best, take every competition as serious as life or death. If Mayweather is not taking this fight as if Conor can and will be him, then he is absolutely opening up for the possibility for that to happen. Now, its being portrayed as if Floyd is not taking him seriously, but I am guessing that is to sell to MMA fans that Conor has a chance.... but boy if that is all real, there is a chance that its going to be a crazy ****ing night.

[NorthernLad93]

did you see the fight where Floyd was 40 years old with busted hands coming off a two year layoff and shoulder surgery?

Do you think a streetballer could beat a 40 year old Michael Jordan?

[Millington]

The discussions and the lead up to this fight reminds me so much of the Aldo fight. Substitute boxing for MMA and Mayweather for Aldo^ and you have pretty much what everyone who was a respected MMA enthusiast here or anywhere else, was saying before Aldo vs McGregor.

If you didn't subscribe to that, you were "McNugget nut huger" and laughed at. Hardly any, if any at all, legitimate discussions were had... just mostly both sides hurling insults back and forth. And that's pretty much this Forum right now, except we have turned it into Boxing vs MMA.

On paper and in the books, you should be putting your money on Mayweather. There is no real doubt. But, on paper you should have put your money on Aldo because he had every tool and skill to beat McGregor too.



As someone who has been a life long Athlete, sports have taught me a lot, about myself and about the world/life. One of the toughest lessons I have ever learned was to never take an opponent lightly. If you want to win, to be the best, take every competition as serious as life or death. If Mayweather is not taking this fight as if Conor can and will be him, then he is absolutely opening up for the possibility for that to happen. Now, its being portrayed as if Floyd is not taking him seriously, but I am guessing that is to sell to MMA fans that Conor has a chance.... but boy if that is all real, there is a chance that its going to be a crazy ****ing night.

Seems like a rather selective recollection of Aldo vs Conor. Conor was only a very slight betting underdog on fight night. Conventional wisdom may have pointed to Aldo being as that he was a long reigning/dominant champion but it certainty wasn't considered absurd to suggest Conor may win it. The major surprise was that a) Conor finished Aldo and b) Conor finished Aldo in under 15 seconds.

[Gainzzz]

Do you think a streetballer could beat a 40 year old Michael Jordan?

not even slightly comparable. the fact that you think it is tells me everything.

your posts are nothing short of utter cringe, please don't quote me ever again.

[WillBrink]

Other than the $, FM has nothing to gain by this fight. If he wins, most people expected one of the top pro boxers to take out a MMA guy in a boxing match. If he loses, he'll never hear the end of it and may be final straw "proving" MMA superior to boxing and more people will follow MMA. CM has nothing to lose, if he loses the fight, no one will really hold it against him losing to the likes of FM, and if he wins, he'll be richer than any MMA athlete before him and a literal god to MMA/CM fans

FM at his best, you'd have to be 'tarded to not know it would last one, maybe two rinds before CM was NTFO, so the only true wild cards that put that in doubt are his age and conditioning for this fight. If he comes in shape, takes the fight seriously, fights his fight vs doing something goofy like just standing there and banging, it's a win for FM.

Age does slow one down, and that's just a real T of it, but I suspect a "slow" FM is still faster than anyone CM has ever gotten in the ring with and I suspect he hits a whole lot harder than most realize. CM has a good chin, but he's never been hit by the level of striker of one of the best boxers of all time who will also be that fast and that accurate. It's a "don't bring a knife to a gun fight" thing and CM is the knife...

I'm going with FM, but I also suspect it may not be all that exciting a fight.

Me, I think they should have signed a two fight deal. Fight 1 is boxing. Fight 2 is MMA

[Exane]

Seems like a rather selective recollection of Aldo vs Conor. Conor was only a very slight betting underdog on fight night. Conventional wisdom may have pointed to Aldo being as that he was a long reigning/dominant champion but it certainty wasn't considered absurd to suggest Conor may win it. The major surprise was that a) Conor finished Aldo and b) Conor finished Aldo in under 15 seconds.

Not at all. First, betting odds just means there were a lot of Fans that bet on him, that doesn't reflect what the majority of vocal "experts" were saying.

On these boards as well as others, most "experts" were saying Conor had no chance. Of course there were those that thought Conor would win, a lot of them are the same guys that are saying Conor is going to win now, and people are once again making fun of them.

[weddingsoup]

Do you think a streetballer could beat a 40 year old Michael Jordan?

no, because one is professional and the other is a guy off the streets.

a professional mixed martial artist is going to meet a professional boxer; not a street-fighter vs. a professional fighter.

[300BLK]

The discussions and the lead up to this fight reminds me so much of the Aldo fight. Substitute boxing for MMA and Mayweather for Aldo^ and you have pretty much what everyone who was a respected MMA enthusiast here or anywhere else, was saying before Aldo vs McGregor.

If you didn't subscribe to that, you were "McNugget nut huger" and laughed at. Hardly any, if any at all, legitimate discussions were had... just mostly both sides hurling insults back and forth. And that's pretty much this Forum right now, except we have turned it into Boxing vs MMA.

On paper and in the books, you should be putting your money on Mayweather. There is no real doubt. But, on paper you should have put your money on Aldo because he had every tool and skill to beat McGregor too.



As someone who has been a life long Athlete, sports have taught me a lot, about myself and about the world/life. One of the toughest lessons I have ever learned was to never take an opponent lightly. If you want to win, to be the best, take every competition as serious as life or death. If Mayweather is not taking this fight as if Conor can and will be him, then he is absolutely opening up for the possibility for that to happen. Now, its being portrayed as if Floyd is not taking him seriously, but I am guessing that is to sell to MMA fans that Conor has a chance.... but boy if that is all real, there is a chance that its going to be a crazy ****ing night.

I looked at some of Aldo's fights, not before the his fight with Conor, but for this fight, because people keep making this comparison. I don't know what people saw. Aldo clearly had no real understanding of distance and range control, a fundamental aspect learned in Boxing, that Conor does have some understanding of. You now see Aldo trying to learn these things in the boxing gyms, because before he clearly had no understanding of it. The way he leaped in for a power shot while being completely out of range was obvious to anyone who understands boxing is a textbook no no.

Mayweather has mastered range control, something Conor spends most of his fights trying to dominate. I'll say this again, my only concern is if Floyd can take punishment at that age with that inactivity. That's Conor's only chance.

I can't speak on the totality of how MMA fans do it, but boxing fans, the ones who follow the ins and outs, know hype doesn't win fights. Hype is fun, but at the end of the day, it comes down to what a fighter can do, and what he can't do, and who's better at doing what. And when you break it down, Conor has no chance, because Mayweather is better than him at everything, in a BOXING MATCH.

[HipHopLyrics]

did you see the fight where Floyd was 40 years old with busted hands coming off a two year layoff and shoulder surgery?

I can show you the fight where Floyd comes off a 2 year layoff with busted hands, but age 32.



Now when you look at his last two fights against Pacquiao and Berto, both routine wins, you can definitely see a slight decline, but nothing drastic. I doubt the last two years have taken that much away from him.

[sooby]

I looked at some of Aldo's fights, not before the his fight with Conor, but for this fight, because people keep making this comparison. I don't know what people saw. Aldo clearly had no real understanding of distance and range control, a fundamental aspect learned in Boxing, that Conor does have some understanding of. You now see Aldo trying to learn these things in the boxing gyms, because before he clearly had no understanding of it. The way he leaped in for a power shot while being completely out of range was obvious to anyone who understands boxing is a textbook no no.

Mayweather has mastered range control, something Conor spends most of his fights trying to dominate. I'll say this again, my only concern is if Floyd can take punishment at that age with that inactivity. That's Conor's only chance.

I can't speak on the totality of how MMA fans do it, but boxing fans, the ones who follow the ins and outs, know hype doesn't win fights. Hype is fun, but at the end of the day, it comes down to what a fighter can do, and what he can't do, and who's better at doing what. And when you break it down, Conor has no chance, because Mayweather is better than him at everything, in a BOXING MATCH.

honestly I thought Aldo would win but at the same time Mendes "curled up like a bitch" against Conor where as Aldo went to war with a Mendes. Certainly even MMA purists thought that Conor had a pretty good chance of beating Aldo, especially because of Aldo having to back out due to a rib injury and him looking completely shook well before leading up to the fight.

[Exane]

I looked at some of Aldo's fights, not before the his fight with Conor, but for this fight, because people keep making this comparison. I don't know what people saw. Aldo clearly had no real understanding of distance and range control, a fundamental aspect learned in Boxing, that Conor does have some understanding of. You now see Aldo trying to learn these things in the boxing gyms, because before he clearly had no understanding of it. The way he leaped in for a power shot while being completely out of range was obvious to anyone who understands boxing is a textbook no no.

Mayweather has mastered range control, something Conor spends most of his fights trying to dominate. I'll say this again, my only concern is if Floyd can take punishment at that age with that inactivity. That's Conor's only chance.

I can't speak on the totality of how MMA fans do it, but boxing fans, the ones who follow the ins and outs, know hype doesn't win fights. Hype is fun, but at the end of the day, it comes down to what a fighter can do, and what he can't do, and who's better at doing what. And when you break it down, Conor has no chance, because Mayweather is better than him at everything, in a BOXING MATCH.

That could be because you are looking at it through eyes of a boxing enthusiast, or it could be because he got starched making a huge mistake. That doesn't change the fact that leading up to that fight, most didn't really give Conor a chance.

Agreed on Mayweather, however Conor was known for typically being a counter fighter so I disagree that he trys to dominate. Maybe after the Aldo fight, yeah, but prior to that he was Counter fighter.

Hype is hype, say what you will, but McGregor beat Aldo because he got in his head and coerced a mistake. He got him to lunge, something he picked up on prior to the fight and practiced that counter. There was nothing lucky about it, that was his game plan.

On the bold'ed, almost but not quite. Its not about what one can and cant do, its about what one actually DOES. Our discussions, our speculations, the sides we chose to be on, is based on that ****, not the winner. The winner is not decided by past, records, or skill sets.... the winner is decided based on execution and will.



And just to make this clear, I don't care who wins this. I have no prediction to make. I am just merely pointing out that I think its simply very foolish to ever discount someone and think they are not a threat in the concept of anything, but especially in the concept of competition.

[KingSWRV]

This dude is starting to talk about poker/combat analogies I made a month ago...

Miscer confirmed.

[Millington]

Not at all. First, betting odds just means there were a lot of Fans that bet on him, that doesn't reflect what the majority of vocal "experts" were saying.

On these boards as well as others, most "experts" were saying Conor had no chance. Of course there were those that thought Conor would win, a lot of them are the same guys that are saying Conor is going to win now, and people are once again making fun of them.

Betting odds tend to be influenced quite heavily by expert opinion. Anyway, I just looked at a number of "vocal experts'" picks for 194: Jack Slack, Bleacher Report, Brett Okamoto at ESPN, Luke Thomas, Bloody Elbow and they were either non-committal or hesitantly picked Aldo or Conor in turn. I'm not seeing really any evidence that major media considered Aldo vs Mcgregor to be a lopsided affair. Generalizing based on the opinions of the MAYBE 20-30 active posters in this sub-section is really silly.

Most of the Conor support is light trolling or if in earnest amounts to 'you are underestimating conor'. No one I've seen has put together a clear path to victory for Mcgregor. Simply saying, 'I think x will win', 'I think you are underestimating x' is not insightful and deserves to be made fun of.

[300BLK]

That could be because you are looking at it through eyes of a boxing enthusiast, or it could be because he got starched making a huge mistake. That doesn't change the fact that leading up to that fight, most didn't really give Conor a chance.

Agreed on Mayweather, however Conor was known for typically being a counter fighter so I disagree that he trys to dominate. Maybe after the Aldo fight, yeah, but prior to that he was Counter fighter.

Hype is hype, say what you will, but McGregor beat Aldo because he got in his head and coerced a mistake. He got him to lunge, something he picked up on prior to the fight and practiced that counter. There was nothing lucky about it, that was his game plan.

On the bold'ed, almost but not quite. Its not about what one can and cant do, its about what one actually DOES. Our discussions, our speculations, the sides we chose to be on, is based on that ****, not the winner. The winner is not decided by past, records, or skill sets.... the winner is decided based on execution and will.



And just to make this clear, I don't care who wins this. I have no prediction to make. I am just merely pointing out that I think its simply very foolish to ever discount someone and think they are not a threat in the concept of anything, but especially in the concept of competition.

Believe me, we include that too. Some people have all the talent in the world, but can't execute to save their life. And that's why, people don't doubt Mayweather. Mayweather has his share of bandwagon fans, but real boxing fans have no choice but to respect him, because he's like one of the most efficient boxers ever, outside of being totally skilled. Often when I'm watching boxing, I'm TV coaching, saying what a fighter should do, what he shouldn't do, in moments, etc. When I'm watching Mayweather, I don't have to coach anything, because he's fuking doing it.

There's been nights, where it's been nothing but upsets, and it's not looking good, and then when it's time for Mayweather to fight, everyone is just like, "oh...this is Mayweather, why'd we doubt it".

I understand you can't count anyone out, because no one is invincible. I even said I give Conor a chance due to Mayweather's age and inactivity. Which Sugar Ray Leonard once said it best, "You think you still got it, then you just reach that age, where your body shuts down by a good shot to the head".
That can happen to anyone. As far as the fight being won on skill, Mayweather has this in the bag. I'll say this also once again, if Conor could do more than punch, then it'd be different, because he often likes to use kicks to control the range, and in boxing he can't do that, so Mayweather would be freely jumping in on him.

[Groce]

Anyone else not really care who wins but just hope Conor doesn't completely embarrass MMA? Imagine Conor went in there got clowned and beat from pillar to post then just peace out bye'd from all combat sports permanently with his 100mil+ dollar check? lmao would be the ultimate con job ala Fertittas convincing WME to buy the UFC for 4 bill.

[KingSWRV]

The showtime all access episodes 3 and 4 were pretty good too

[Millington]

Anyone else not really care who wins but just hope Conor doesn't completely embarrass MMA? Imagine Conor went in there got clowned and beat from pillar to post then just peace out bye'd from all combat sports permanently with his 100mil+ dollar check? lmao would be the ultimate con job ala Fertittas convincing WME to buy the UFC for 4 bill.

Don't think he could embarrass MMA because he has the built in excuses of 'I'm not a boxer and I took on TBE','well if this were a REAL fight you'd be dead', 'muh takes downs', 'muh jiu jitsu', 'muh Muay Thai', etc. It's a fight he's supposed to lose with 0 downside and a whole lot of upside. Imagine even if he lands a few punches on Floyd's gloves/shoulders, it will be more than most expect.

[Gomi]

If it was that easy Conor wouldn't have destroyed him and Malignaggi in sparring.

Who did Conor 'destroy' in sparring?!? You obviously haven't kept up with what *really* happened. Conor didn't 'destroy' anyone. You only got shown what they wanted you to see. That part couldn't have been more obvious.