A few nights ago I was watching a doco by Dr Michael Mosley (maybe a BBC Production) and it really concerned me. The doco was basically saying that we need to greatly reduce our protein intake as it increases the risk of cancer and diseases due to the increase protein causes in growth hormones and that this can trigger disease and cancer or make it grow quicker. I am 47 and getting to the age where I need to be careful about my health and what I let into my body. If this is accurate what ramifications does it have on the bodybuilding community?
Does anyone have any insight into this?
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Thread: Protein: What is the truth?
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08-18-2017, 11:49 PM #1
Protein: What is the truth?
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08-19-2017, 06:46 AM #2
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08-19-2017, 06:48 AM #3
Fear mongering
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I'm pretty sure your wrong, but care to elaborate...
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08-19-2017, 07:36 AM #4
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Every year or so they things we eat and drink change on what is healthy and what is not. The air we breathe is not safe and neither is the water. Too much water is bad, but to little will kill you. The sad part is that they never give the actual amounts or numbers. So you have to take all these reports with a grain of salt (which will also kill you, but only this week).
If you not feeling the burn your not pushing hard enough.
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08-19-2017, 08:11 AM #5
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08-19-2017, 08:23 AM #6
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08-19-2017, 08:46 AM #7
I've seen the program. The expert presented in it is Valter Longo. He has a theory that high protein diets increase IGF-1 and this increases your risk for cancer. What's important to understand is that Longo has no good human data to support his hypothesis. In fact in his own observational study it turned out that higher protein diets did better (mortality wise) in older population.
I suggest reading up on Dr. Stuart Phillips' work who has published several studies showing that we need more protein as we age.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26980369
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23438221Recommended science based fitness & nutrition information:
Alan Aragon https://alanaragon.com/
Brad Schoenfeld http://www.lookgreatnaked.com/
James Krieger https://weightology.net/
Jorn Trommelen http://www.nutritiontactics.com/
Eric Helms & Team3DMJ https://3dmusclejourney.com/
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08-19-2017, 09:17 AM #8
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08-19-2017, 09:48 AM #9
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08-19-2017, 09:55 AM #10
LMAO somebody who is actually 47... Holy hell!
Also look at all the other bs docs, that people are trying to make excuses on why they are gaining so much weight, instead of just looking at themselves and saying. "Hey, maybe I'm eating too much and I'm not moving enough." Then a doc comes on and they are like YEAH! SUGAR/FAT/PROTEIN/BACTERIA ECT IS THE REASON I'M FAT, IT ISN'T MY FAULT!
It shocks me how doctors are supposibly so intelligent, but can't figure out that cals in vs cals out.
People just can't come to terms with the simple truth, they are eating too much and being too sedentary.
In USA you can get a 64oz soda for less than a dollar ffs, you can get a 32oz coffee with as much cream/sugar as you want for a dollar something.
You can buy 16 bags of chips, you can buy a whole box of chocolates, 64 pop tarts ect. The list goes on.
I had a buy one get one free klondike bars for 4$! it was 16, I ate them all that day lol.
I have a bad relationship with food, so to avoid temptation, I simply do not buy anything I will not eat.
Unfortunately most people don't care to work around their impulses.
My point is that, these docs keep coming out to scare people and make them believe that their issues are not under their control.
Also most people probably don't get more than 100g of protein a day. So don't let these docs scare you. Just more bs being pushed on people.
Especially after that girl just died from "too much protein" what they didn't tell you is that she had a rare disease and her kidneys couldn't handle what she was taking in.
She was working out 2x a day.Last edited by Junsuiakai; 08-19-2017 at 10:06 AM.
FS/ S/ OHP/ B/ DL
120/150/70/100/180 =KG
I don't go to the gym anymore so above stats are useless.
Only do weighted calastentics in the comfort of my own home!
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=173620211&page=138 go here if you want an estimation on your bf%
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08-19-2017, 06:30 PM #11
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If you're not concerned about body composition or muscle strength/size,ok then maybe you can avoid the gold standard. However, I can only attest to protein importance from working out. I worked out on low protein diet when I started, I hardly saw gains
started doing protein, and bam! Single biggest factor for gym progession for me....
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08-19-2017, 10:07 PM #12
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