best NON STIM pre workout that is easy on the stomach

[akuma4u]

I have a very sensitive stomach.. bcaa drinks make me nauseated , some more than others.. esp when working out.
I am also sensitive to stimulants..

id like to know what are some great non stimulating pre work out supps..

thanks in advance

[danielmoo]

Do you know of any particular ingredients that you can't tolerate? Or any non-stimulant PWOs that you've tried in the past that have been fine? That would help us.

[akuma4u]

Do you know of any particular ingredients that you can't tolerate? Or any non-stimulant PWOs that you've tried in the past that have been fine? That would help us.

to be honest i never tried an actual PWO.. i just tried an intra work out BCAA drink and those , during workouts, make me so sick to my stomach and nauseated... some bcaa drinks i can tolerate when im just chilling and not working out but def a no go on drinking while working out.

[Farley1324]

I have a very sensitive stomach.. bcaa drinks make me nauseated , some more than others.. esp when working out.
I am also sensitive to stimulants..

id like to know what are some great non stimulating pre work out supps..

thanks in advance

to be honest i never tried an actual PWO.. i just tried an intra work out BCAA drink and those , during workouts, make me so sick to my stomach and nauseated... some bcaa drinks i can tolerate when im just chilling and not working out but def a no go on drinking while working out.

Some caffeine free options to consider
Controlled Labs White Pipes
Caffeine Free Scivation Quake
iFN HemaVol and HemaV02
Carbon Prep (50% off on bbcom, being discontinued I guess, now is the time, has pretty insignificant amount of caffeine)
PES High Volume

You don't need a pre or intra workout, if it really bothers you to drink anything but water pre or intra, just don't take a pre or intra besides water. Focus on your daily nutrition, as you should be anyway, sufficient carbs an hour or two before workouts may be nice, get a meal or protein shake post workout, you'll be fine if your nutrition is where it should be.

[akuma4u]

i dunno man i have issues with anxiety as it is.. last time i tried messing around with stims , which was a long time ago,. i get rapid heart beat , shallow breathing and stay in that state for hours.. i hate it..

on another note.. sizeon and superpump max, are those stim based?

[Farley1324]

i dunno man i have issues with anxiety as it is.. last time i tried messing around with stims , which was a long time ago,. i get rapid heart beat , shallow breathing and stay in that state for hours.. i hate it..

on another note.. sizeon and superpump max, are those stim based?

Read the labels. Yes, superpump max is definitely a noticeable stimulant. Size-On is not, but if simple BCAA bother your stomach, I can only imagine size on or similar being worse

[danielmoo]

to be honest i never tried an actual PWO.. i just tried an intra work out BCAA drink and those , during workouts, make me so sick to my stomach and nauseated... some bcaa drinks i can tolerate when im just chilling and not working out but def a no go on drinking while working out.

You could try out Carbon Prep while it is on sale, it's a good PWO and you could try half-scooping it to see if it bothers your stomach at all. Keep in mind that this has a minuscule caffeine amount so it's not completely stimulant-free. I'd also recommend our own PlasmaJet, but I'm not sure how your stomach might react to it due to the ingredient osthole.

[akuma4u]

You could try out Carbon Prep while it is on sale, it's a good PWO and you could try half-scooping it to see if it bothers your stomach at all. Keep in mind that this has a minuscule caffeine amount so it's not completely stimulant-free. I'd also recommend our own PlasmaJet, but I'm not sure how your stomach might react to it due to the ingredient osthole.

do you offer any samples of those products that i could try out before buying full sizes?

[danielmoo]

do you offer any samples of those products that i could try out before buying full sizes?

I do not. However, I'm sure other customers could/will chime on the products from personal experience

[akuma4u]

You don't need a pre or intra workout, if it really bothers you to drink anything but water pre or intra, just don't take a pre or intra besides water. Focus on your daily nutrition, as you should be anyway, sufficient carbs an hour or two before workouts may be nice, get a meal or protein shake post workout, you'll be fine if your nutrition is where it should be.

yes my diet plan seems to be on track , im just looking for a little more edge in the gym.. im 36 now and even tho im bigger now than i was when i was in my younger years. my strength and stamina have declined big time..

[Farley1324]

do you offer any samples of those products that i could try out before buying full sizes?

Additionally, the Carbon Prep is not his company's brand (or mine) and I don't believe there are samples for them.

You can get some free controlled labs samples here. It will include caffeinated white pipes and I think it will include caffeine free white pipes

https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showt...hp?t=171098571



And it's hard to go wrong with that 50% off carbon prep

[akuma4u]

Additionally, the Carbon Prep is not his company's brand (or mine) and I don't believe there are samples for them.

You can get some free controlled labs samples here. It will include caffeinated white pipes and I think it will include caffeine free white pipes




And it's hard to go wrong with that 50% off carbon prep

ok cool i have sent off a request for some samples.. i will go to the site to get the half of carbon prep

[urg862]

It truly all depends on what ingredient(s) are causing your problems.

NEOGENIX BodyForge Ultra provides some L-Citrulline(Raises NO levels but also can relieve muscle soreness, enhance performance) + Agmatine (can inhibit NO breakdown and has nutrient partitioning effects) + provides other ergogenic ingredients for strength, power output, deacreased DOMS, increased performance

Other great products I've used myself:
- ANS Dilate
- Cellucor CN3
- Controlled Labs GlycerGrow2
- Controlled Labs White pipes
- Core Nutritionals Core Pump
- iForce Hemavo2 Max
- Komodo Vaskular
- MTS Vasky
- Olympus Labs Conqu3r Unleashed
- PES High Volume
- Purus Labs Noxygen
- Carbon Prep and PlasmaJet work great as well but have a tiny

[AJP1]

It truly all depends on what ingredient(s) are causing your problems.

NEOGENIX BodyForge Ultra provides some L-Citrulline(Raises NO levels but also can relieve muscle soreness, enhance performance) + Agmatine (can inhibit NO breakdown and has nutrient partitioning effects) + provides other ergogenic ingredients for strength, power output, deacreased DOMS, increased performance

Other great products I've used myself:
- ANS Dilate
- Cellucor CN3
- Controlled Labs GlycerGrow2
- Controlled Labs White pipes
- Core Nutritionals Core Pump
- iForce Hemavo2 Max
- Komodo Vaskular
- MTS Vasky
- Olympus Labs Conqu3r Unleashed
- PES High Volume
- Purus Labs Noxygen
- Carbon Prep and PlasmaJet work great as well but have a tiny

Was just coming in to mention BodyForge Ultra.
It'll promote pumps, recovery, and strength.
Hemavol has always been a local favorite as well.

[powercage]

Try a free sample of White Pipes from the link in my sig. Fully clinically dosed

[VO2Maxima]

What are you looking for? Ergogenic aids? Pump? Maybe just some carbs to help you through the workout?

my strength and stamina have declined big time..

This would be pushing me towards preworkout carbs (either in the form of a drink or food).
Could also add in creatine and betaine, both of which would help a little in terms of strength and could be dosed away from your workout, which might help with the stomach upset.

[akuma4u]

What are you looking for? Ergogenic aids? Pump? Maybe just some carbs to help you through the workout?


This would be pushing me towards preworkout carbs (either in the form of a drink or food).
Could also add in creatine and betaine, both of which would help a little in terms of strength and could be dosed away from your workout, which might help with the stomach upset.

I take a bottle of gatorade with 5g of creatine about 45 mins to an hour before working out. so my carbs should be fulfilled right there.
and yes im looking for ergogenics/strength and pumps

[akuma4u]

Other great products I've used myself:
- ANS Dilate
- Cellucor CN3
- Controlled Labs GlycerGrow2
- Controlled Labs White pipes
- Core Nutritionals Core Pump
- iForce Hemavo2 Max
- Komodo Vaskular
- MTS Vasky
- Olympus Labs Conqu3r Unleashed
- PES High Volume
- Purus Labs Noxygen
- Carbon Prep and PlasmaJet work great as well but have a tiny

but have a tiny... ???? the sentence got cut off.. can you finish it?

between carbon prep and bodyforge ultra, which is the better of the 2?

[Partyrocking]

I think he meant a tiny amount of stims. PJ has 50mg caffeine and Carbon Prep has no caffeine, but it has some theobromine.

[akuma4u]

I think he meant a tiny amount of stims. PJ has 50mg caffeine and Carbon Prep has no caffeine, but it has some theobromine.

whats more stimulating theo or 50mg of caff?

[akuma4u]

I think he meant a tiny amount of stims. PJ has 50mg caffeine and Carbon Prep has no caffeine, but it has some theobromine.

whats more stimulating.. theo or 50mg of caffeine?

[Partyrocking]

whats more stimulating theo or 50mg of caff?

I would say the caffeine. Theobromine is a milder stimulant.

[akuma4u]

I would say the caffeine. Theobromine is a milder stimulant.

carbon it is then! although im sure i can handle 50mg of caff... i believe a can of pop has more..

[showjo1josh]

I'll throw in another vote for PES High Volume as a non stim supp you could check out. Also look at some NO Boosting products like VolcaNO or Force Factor instead of a stim pre workout.

[urg862]

but have a tiny... ???? the sentence got cut off.. can you finish it?

between carbon prep and bodyforge ultra, which is the better of the 2?

I think he meant a tiny amount of stims. PJ has 50mg caffeine and Carbon Prep has no caffeine, but it has some theobromine.

Partyrocking answered for me. "Stims" was the missing word. If you go with carbon Prep, I prefer the cranberry grape flavor over the fruit punch. But with the current price point you might as well order both flavors IMO

[akuma4u]

What do u guys think about agmatine? Can it be stacked with carbon ?

Also what about evl pump mode?

[urg862]

What do u guys think about agmatine? Can it be stacked with carbon ?

Also what about evl pump mode?

I like agmatine as it can inhibit NO breakdown and has nutrient partitioning effects. You can stack it with prep

[jk202]

Just mix your own:

Beta alanine
Citrulline mallate
Creatine
Fruit punch powder of your choice

Much cheaper

[Farley1324]

Just mix your own:

Beta alanine
Citrulline mallate
Creatine
Fruit punch powder of your choice

Much cheaper

That's basically a one ingredient pre though (citrulline).

Much less effect compared to something like Prep or any of the other good stim free pre workouts

[danielmoo]

Just mix your own:

Beta alanine
Citrulline mallate
Creatine
Fruit punch powder of your choice

Much cheaper

Only one of those ingredients, Cit mal, has a noticeable effect acutely and you didn't list an amount.

EDIT: Wizard'd ^