Buying and selling: Supp Misc Crew is moving on up

[LiftingLando]

the funny part is Lando has you on ignore. lol

Had. I knew when things went political, Savior to the Left Agenda would appear so I took it off ignore and decided to fire off a few lines.

[|ceman]

Each one of those charts is from a website called obamawhitehouse.com //// Do you not think they are going to be leaning in the favor of statistics that make him look good?

And your chart about growth looks like it was created by a 10th grade computer class student who just turned in his Chapter One assignment on bar graphs.

the data is from the non-partisan Bureau of Labor Statistics.

Did you find any issues with the data or just how pretty the charts are?



I'm deliberately trying to be excessively neutral here and just present data. you interpret it as you see fit. If you're going to claim that a guy is good or bad for jobs then the data should reflect that, regardless of whether you like him or not.

[LiftingLando]

the data is from the non-partisan Bureau of Labor Statistics.

Did you find any issues with the data or just how pretty the charts are?

I'm deliberately trying to be excessively neutral here and just present data. you interpret it as you see fit. If you're going to claim that a guy is good or bad for jobs then the data should reflect that, regardless of whether you like him or not.

I simply stated it came from a website with Obama's name in it. Too easily those charts can be put together on data that looks good for him from one angle, but reality, may not be exactly representative of the current state. Also, first chart.... horrible design.

Second part, Trump is great for jobs. I will like him now.

[dougefresh93]

I simply stated it came from a website with Obama's name in it. Too easily those charts can be put together on data that looks good for him from one angle, but reality, may not be exactly representative of the current state. Also, first chart.... horrible design.

Second part, Trump is great for jobs. I will like him now.

Lando's fav gif

[|ceman]

I simply stated it came from a website with Obama's name in it. Too easily those charts can be put together on data that looks good for him from one angle, but reality, may not be exactly representative of the current state. Also, first chart.... horrible design.

Second part, Trump is great for jobs. I will like him now.

If we're talking about jobs it's usually the quantity of jobs created, the unemployment rate, the percent of full time jobs and the wage growth of those jobs. The data presented is for the entire Obama presidency, so I'm not clear on how they could be "put together" to only look good from one angle but not reflect reality. But I do understand how it can seem to be hard to believe those numbers if you've been exposed to information that says otherwise.

Trump has been good for jobs and continuing a 97 month trend of continuous positive job growth. I too hope it continues.

[AMeyer9]

A year ago everyone was bitching about where trannys take a piss.

Now there's a "new" racial tension.

Can't wait to see what 2018 brings.

[|ceman]

A year ago everyone was bitching about where trannys take a piss.

Now there's a "new" racial tension.

Can't wait to see what 2018 brings.

2018 is the year skynet goes active and the machines nuke us all.

[OT2000]

Can't wait to see what 2018 brings.

Nitramine re-release?

[ERGOGENIX]

Second part, Trump is great for jobs. I will like him now.

LMFAO

Manufacturing jobs aren't coming back to the US. Y'all aren't willing to pay $ 2,000+ for a 50" TV made in the US, when an imported one is $300-600.

The market is up because interest rates have been kept at almost 0 for over 8 years.

The economy needs some inflation, which will create more jobs and demand.

[Rob1882]

They teach economics on commercial break during nascar now?

[YouMadOrMirin]

Didn't have to. You accused Trump of not getting those jobs to Ford and coal miners yet. However, unemployment continues to shrink and markets continue to go up.... in 7 months!! During all which of time continuously receiving criticism and hostile treatment from the liberal cluster f*** of ignorance. With all that's stacked against him, the success we have had is impressive.

Also, if Obama hadn't run us in the ground over the past 8 years, maybe Trump wouldn't have to be instituting new policies and regulations to help bring jobs back. Tell me again how Obama needs praise?

Like I said before, he has nothing to do with it... Obama didnt run anything into the ground but the hopes of people who wanted him to fail badly. Trump is literally riding his coattails and taking credit for it.

A year ago everyone was bitching about where trannys take a piss.

Now there's a "new" racial tension.

Can't wait to see what 2018 brings.

And that tells you a whole lot about the new administration.

[dazedncnfz]

Like I said before, he has nothing to do with it... Obama didnt run anything into the ground but the hopes of people who wanted him to fail badly. Trump is literally riding his coattails and taking credit for it.

During his admisistration...

I lost my job and was unemployed for a over a year.
My wife lost her job.
We almost lost our house.
Got reduced health care benefits while the our cost went up.

Sadly I could go on. He certainly was not a good president, to hold him in such high regard is foolish at best.

[YouMadOrMirin]

During his admisistration...

I lost my job and was unemployed for a over a year.
My wife lost her job.
We almost lost our house.
Got reduced health care benefits while the our cost went up.

Sadly I could go on. He certainly was not a good president, to hold him in such high regard is foolish at best.

How was he directly to blame? Besides anything healthcare related.

[LoudyRowdy]

Duke will be removing Lee's statue...

Inb4 Washington and Lee College name change

[Bigdumogre]

All I hear is waaaaaahhhhhh

[Jeff the Repper]

Duke will be removing Lee's statue...

Inb4 Washington and Lee College name change

I think all of this is just crazy, how long until they blast Mt. Rushmore

[DasBiceps]

How was he directly to blame? Besides anything healthcare related.

If the market was down right now, trump would be to blame. But because the market is up it is because of Obama. I doubt you would be blaming obama in a market decline.


Market is not up due to interest rates being low(obviously it is a reason but with Interest Rates finally starting to come back up, we aren't seeing a major change in the market), at least that's not the case anymore. The market is moving up due to the possible leading of tax reduction on corps, which would increase EPS, so the sentiment is buy now before the increase in earnings. But now the market is unsure of trump due to all these administration changes and the only reason why we haven't seen huge declines is because republicans with the amount of control they have now should be able to get things done. On the other hands, most republicans are cucks and will do nothing like they always have which is why we are in a state of cluster**** that is ObamaCare.

BTW i'm pretty sure Raising rates fights off inflation....And Lowering Rates will cause and increase in inflation.

[ERGOGENIX]

If the market was down right now, trump would be to blame. But because the market is up it is because of Obama. I doubt you would be blaming obama in a market decline.


Market is not up due to interest rates being low(obviously it is a reason but with Interest Rates finally starting to come back up, we aren't seeing a major change in the market), at least that's not the case anymore. The market is moving up due to the possible leading of tax reduction on corps, which would increase EPS, so the sentiment is buy now before the increase in earnings. But now the market is unsure of trump due to all these administration changes and the only reason why we haven't seen huge declines is because republicans with the amount of control they have now should be able to get things done. On the other hands, most republicans are cucks and will do nothing like they always have which is why we are in a state of cluster**** that is ObamaCare.

BTW i'm pretty sure Raising rates fights off inflation....And Lowering Rates will cause and increase in inflation.

You're still an imbicile.

Rates have gone up by 25 basis points. That's all.

Look at the markets since 2009 (when interest went to 0).

[UncleWade]

Can't wait to see what 2018 brings.

Look at what 2017 is bringing:

LMFAO

Manufacturing jobs aren't coming back to the US. Y'all aren't willing to pay $ 2,000+ for a 50" TV made in the US, when an imported one is $300-600.

The market is up because interest rates have been kept at almost 0 for over 8 years.

The economy needs some inflation, which will create more jobs and demand.

A post in the Supp. Misc. by the Ergoboss that I agree 100% with.

[DasBiceps]

You're still an imbicile.

Rates have gone up by 25 basis points. That's all.

Look at the markets since 2009 (when interest went to 0).

If market sentiment knew that Interest rates were also going to continue to go up we would be seeing a reaction even to a small change we know that interest rates will be moving another 50 basis points this year (on top of most likely more increasing rates next year). And i guess you are against Yellen increasing rates because you want more inflation, **** lets just follow japan and go negative...

But the market is not at all time highs in such a quick amount of time due to low interest rates. Of course it is a factor but the huge spike we have seen is due to trumps possible policies. Only a buffoon would be unable to see that. By next january if we still see nothing on tax deduction than you will being seeing a market decline on top of increasing rates.

I am only positive that if the market is down now you wouldn't be talking about interest rates, you would be talking about how trump is the reason. But due to the market being up You will be riding the obama D-train and saying trump had nothing to do with anything. Wouldnt even doubt you chuckled when the market went down 600pts when trump won, and then cried in a ball in the corner when the market immediately recovered.

[Rob1882]

I hope you were among those who got in on the settlement from Trump U..

Also I thought I seen a video of you other day stripping off the Trump uniform at a rally.. dat u bruh?

[DasBiceps]

I hope you were among those who got in on the settlement from Trump U..

Also I thought I seen a video of you other day stripping off the Trump uniform at a rally.. dat u bruh?

Because im trying to saying that trump is the reason for the market spike, im automatically apart of those rallies? How do any of those things correlate?

DO you honestly believe those people wouldnt have been there regardless of trump or hillary as president....

Or is your head up so far the media's ass that you will believe anything they tell you. Or are you one of those guys who gets there news from late night tv shows.

****Breaking News****

Trump just sneezed after talking about BLM, he is clearly a racist mansplaining homophobic bigot.

[Rob1882]

Settle down

[Rob1882]

http://fortune.com/2017/08/04/trump-gun-sales-obama/

http://fortune.com/2017/04/01/trump-gun-industry/

http://money.cnn.com/2017/05/11/news...mmo/index.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.8a0537b78a64

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...-idUSKBN16N2LL

Hey at least without Communist-Socialist-Fascist immigrant Obawma isn't in office ( I mean.. I like to wait till all the facts are in ) gun sales have been way down. So silver linings right.

[DasBiceps]

Hey at least without Communist-Socialist-Fascist immigrant Obawma isn't in office ( I mean.. I like to wait till all the facts are in ) gun sales have been way down. So silver linings right.

Gun sales are down due to less threat of heavier regulation.

[Rob1882]

Gun sales are down due to less threat of heavier regulation.

The threat was largely manufactured and it was spelled out in each as well as to why, but like I said silver linings.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/02/24/inve...ump/index.html


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/24/o...n.html?mcubz=0

( The 2nd an opinion editorial )

Another obvious one with private prisons which is terrible

[Bigdumogre]

Gun sales are down due to less threat of heavier regulation.

That's the truth
I know a few people who got scared and stocked up on guns and ammo

[DasBiceps]

The threat was largely manufactured and it was spelled out in each as well as to why, but like I said silver linings.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/02/24/inve...ump/index.html


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/24/o...n.html?mcubz=0

( The 2nd an opinion editorial )

Another obvious one with private prisons which is terrible

Whether how manufactured the threat was, it is now barely there so of course gun sales would go down. Take the sales for what its worth. I don't think you should be looking at sales so much though.

As for the prisons thing, can't say much about that. Know very little about that subject.

[Rob1882]

Whether how manufactured the threat was, it is now barely there so of course gun sales would go down.

As for the prisons thing, can't say much about that. Know very little about that subject.

It's an expansion of for profit private prisons and contractors which under Obama ( mr. too little too late ) they were cutting on the federal level while under Trump they want to scale it up. They are in the business of making money when you combine that with putting people in prison, you have wide spread abuses with the incentives to lock more people up you find reasons to both lock someone up as well keep them locked up. Our tax money is funding these private businesses which than have an obligation to make-seek a profit.

These are some of the big players spiking up the market which you mentioned that being good needs context and the amount of jobs being created ice touched on is not all that great most of the policies in effect are from Obama I'm not his biggest fan, he was a terrible president the very few things he did that were good were done half ass ( ACA without a public option ).

The ACA ( ObamaCare ) perhaps the greatest thing it included was a clause on pre-existing conditions that they couldn't refuse you were prior to the ACA they did and could your insurance before ACA could and was often canceled under claims of pre-existing conditions you would and did hit limits on use and they would revoke your insurance so that is one of the only good things under the ACA besides some of the subsidies provided which didn't go anywhere near far enough.

Also remember who wrote the ACA a republican think tank for Mitt Romney; Trump is so massively incompetent that he doesn't know what health care is let alone how it works - I mean who knew it was so complicated..

[DasBiceps]

It's an expansion of for profit private prisons and contractors which under Obama ( mr. too little too late ) they were cutting on the federal level while under Trump they want to scale it up. They are in the business of making money when you combine that with putting people in prison, you have wide spread abuses with the incentives to lock more people up you find reasons to both lock someone up as well keep them locked up. Our tax money is funding these private businesses which than have an obligation to make-seek a profit.

These are some of the big players spiking up the market which you mentioned that being good needs context and the amount of jobs being created ice touched on is not all that great most of the policies in effect are from Obama I'm not his biggest fan, he was a terrible president the very few things he did that were good were done half ass ( ACA without a public option ).

The ACA ( ObamaCare ) perhaps the greatest thing it included was a clause on pre-existing conditions that they couldn't refuse you were prior to the ACA they did and could your insurance before ACA could and was often canceled under claims of pre-existing conditions you would and did hit limits on use and they would revoke your insurance so that is one of the only good things under the ACA besides some of the subsidies provided which didn't go anywhere near far enough.

Also remember who wrote the ACA a republican think tank for Mitt Romney; Trump is so massively incompetent that he doesn't know what health care is let alone how it works - I mean who knew it was so complicated..

Just remember most republicans are cucks, no **** they let that plan go.

As for the prison thing, it seems from the cnn article, that this increase is due to Trump saying about illegal immigration and drug crackdown. Good and/or bad i think that was just the outcome.

Both sides Democrat or Republican gain from their policies and not for the good of the people. Wouldn't be surprised if somehow dems were making money off of gun sales since they knew whatever they would say about the second amendment would cause a spike in sales.