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    Intel Community Uploaded Altered Whistleblower Form 2 Days Before Complaint Released

    Intel Community Uploaded Altered Whistleblower Form 2 Days Before Complaint Released to Public
    If you were to file a whistleblower report with the intelligence community inspector general, up until Sept. 24, the conduct you were blowing the whistle on officially had to be witnessed firsthand.

    The “Disclosure of Urgent Concern” form — the channel by which one reported such things — specifically stated that any kind of second-hand information about alleged wrongdoing wouldn’t do.

    This appears to have changed at 4:25 p.m. on Sept. 24, when a new form was uploaded to the Director of National Intelligence’s website.

    On the new form, individuals who “heard about [wrongdoing] from others” can also report it.

    That date is pretty significant because it was just two days before the biggest whistleblower report in the intelligence community’s history was released to the public.

    Sean Davis, co-founder of The Federalist, reported Friday the firsthand knowledge requirement was canned sometime over the past year and change — and while it’s difficult to pin down when, evidence points to August.

    “Between May 2018 and August 2019, the intelligence community secretly eliminated a requirement that whistleblowers provide direct, first-hand knowledge of alleged wrongdoings,” he wrote.

    “This raises questions about the intelligence community’s behavior regarding the August submission of a whistleblower complaint against President Donald Trump. The new complaint document no longer requires potential whistleblowers who wish to have their concerns expedited to Congress to have direct, first-hand knowledge of the alleged wrongdoing that they are reporting.”

    The change was first noted by researcher Stephen McIntyre, who said the revision and the timing was “something seriously strange.”

    he previous form had a bold section with the header “FIRST-HAND INFORMATION REQUIRED.”

    “The IC IG cannot transmit information via the ICPWA based on an employee’s second-hand knowledge of wrongdoing,” the form read.

    “This includes information received from another person, such as when an employee informs you that he/she witnessed some type of wrongdoing.”

    “If you think that wrongdoing took place, but can provide nothing more than second-hand or unsubstantiated assertions, IC IG will not be able to process the complaint or information for submission as an ICWPA.”

    That previous version notes it was approved on May 24, 2018. The new form, meanwhile, states it was revised sometime in August 2019 but it doesn’t specify a date.

    That becomes important when you realize that the whistleblower complaint about Trump’s phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky — which included no firsthand knowledge about the call — was filed on Aug. 12.

    Davis noted the report has plenty of references to knowledge that’s second-hand at best.

    He wrote: “The Ukraine call complaint against Trump is riddled not with evidence directly witnessed by the complainant, but with repeated references to what anonymous officials allegedly told the complainant: ‘I have received information from multiple U.S. Government officials,’ ‘officials have informed me,’ ‘officials with direct knowledge of the call informed me,’ ‘the White House officials who told me this information,’ ‘I was told by White House officials,’ ‘the officials I spoke with,’ ‘I was told that a State Department official,’ ‘I learned from multiple U.S. officials,’ ‘One White House official described this act,’ ‘Based on multiple readouts of these meetings recounted to me,’ ‘I also learned from multiple U.S. officials,’ ‘The U.S. officials characterized this meeting,’ ‘multiple U.S. officials told me,’ ‘I learned from U.S. officials,’ ‘I also learned from a U.S. official,’ ‘several U.S. officials told me,’ ‘I heard from multiple U.S. officials,’ and ‘multiple U.S. officials told me.’”

    Up until the afternoon of Sept. 24, you likely wouldn’t be able to report any of this on the “Disclosure of Urgent Concern” form. It’s unclear when the firsthand knowledge requirement actually went away — as Davis noted, it could be anytime between May 24, 2018 and sometime in August.

    This could all be a coincidence. But that would be a pretty massive coincidence.

    It’s difficult to definitively state a causal relationship here, but the timing certainly makes it look as if some wider allowance was made for the specific complaint at some level.

    This doesn’t necessarily mean the change wasn’t warranted or the whistleblower complaint wasn’t something that should have been examined, either — but if this is more than a coincidence, it puts the complaint and the initial decision not to release it in a new light.

    An official with the Director of National Intelligence wouldn’t comment on when the revision to the form was made or what the reasoning behind it was when reached by The Federalist, either. That shouldn’t be a good augury for anyone.

    There are plenty of answers that need to be provided in the wake of this whistleblower complaint.

    Republicans and conservatives shouldn’t kid themselves: Some of them need to come from the president and those around him.

    The intelligence community needs to provide some answers about this, too.

    It would be edifying, for instance, to find out when this form was revised. I think a lot of people would also like to know what input prompted the change.

    If those are questions the intelligence community can’t quickly and decisively answer, this report is looking swampier and swampier.
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    John Brennan stoking the fire with this tweet:
    "A reminder to federal officials:

    There is no limit on the number of individuals who can use the whistleblower statute.

    If you think you were involved in unlawful activity as a result of a directive from Mr. Trump or someone doing his bidding, now is the time to report it."
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    Incredible

    Liddle' Adam Schitt has the complaint since August; whistle blower regulations changed late September then all of a sudden complaint is released

    Awesome timing, what the fuk are they trying to hide exactly? Surely not Hunter Biden? Sleepy Joe is no show of taking the nomination

    Must be something big coming up shortly that Schitt knows about
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    Trump falls for dumb right wing conspiracy, gets impeached

    Trump supporter falls for dumb right wing conspiracy about how Trump got impeached

    And the circle of stupidity continues

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    This is some shady crap; you couldn't even make it up, jesus christ. Communist tactics are at play. Country at stake? Maybe. Not looking good for the USA.

    This likely won't get questioned at all, Dems know they can sweep this under easily.
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    Originally Posted by LargePeter View Post
    Incredible

    Liddle' Adam Schitt has the complaint since August; whistle blower regulations changed late September then all of a sudden complaint is released

    Awesome timing, what the fuk are they trying to hide exactly? Surely not Hunter Biden? Sleepy Joe is no show of taking the nomination

    Must be something big coming up shortly that Schitt knows about
    It's already been posted before, this is what is being hidden:


    https://i.imgur.com/bQmzYlZ.jpg
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    Originally Posted by XterraRob View Post
    John Brennan stoking the fire with this tweet:


    https://twitter.com/JohnBrennan/stat...17399254872064
    This is an absolute war against a sitting President. It's a war, plain and simple. Nuts.
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    Originally Posted by FoxMcCocks View Post
    Trump falls for dumb right wing conspiracy, gets impeached

    Trump supporter falls for dumb right wing conspiracy about how Trump got impeached

    And the circle of stupidity continues

    Fuking lmao
    You're not even making sense now, just posting chit at completely random intervals in order to sow disorder and deflective commentary

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    Originally Posted by XterraRob View Post
    John Brennan stoking the fire with this tweet:


    https://twitter.com/JohnBrennan/stat...17399254872064
    This is their current plan, and it’s a replay of the Russia hoax. They “flood the zone” with bs whistleblower complaints to give the illusion that trump must be bad... then move forward with their impeachment after nonstop anti trump news by their msm allies.

    The Russian hoax was the same... all bs coming from the cia, Steele, Clinton lawyers, etc... what else could poor comey do but to investigate it all?

    The dems and their media allies play dirty. When will the republicans fight back?
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    Trying to overthrow a president by illegal means using known falsehoods smells a little treasonous.
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    Here is Steve Mcintyre's twitter feed with his details and he also mentions the coincidence of a certain female, Sue Gordon being passed over for promotion.


    https://twitter.com/climateaudit/sta...80473566093312


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    Originally Posted by ghostfacedup View Post
    This is some shady crap; you couldn't even make it up, jesus christ. Communist tactics are at play. Country at stake? Maybe. Not looking good for the USA.

    This likely won't get questioned at all, Dems know they can sweep this under easily.
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    What really irks me is that the Senate Republicans ain't doin jack shiiit.


    They need to open their own investigation and bring pencil neck schiff before a committee.
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    Originally Posted by Chowboy View Post
    What really irks me is that the Senate Republicans ain't doin jack shiiit.


    They need to open their own investigation and bring pencil neck schiff before a committee.
    When Democrats are destroying themselves, why would you want to step in and interfere? Let them hang themselves first, and then do it.
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    Originally Posted by Chowboy View Post
    What really irks me is that the Senate Republicans ain't doin jack shiiit.
    Because most are complicit or they are running their own scams they don't want the Democrats to expose them over?

    Pretty much all of them are corrupt and guilty of something. If they go after them here, they know they'll be next for whatever they're involved with.

    Why would anyone assume simply because the Democrats are shady and criminal that somehow that means the GOP is not?
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    Originally Posted by chaunce54 View Post
    When Democrats are destroying themselves, why would you want to step in and interfere? Let them hang themselves first, and then do it.

    Probably same reason why Trump released the transcript and released it before the complaint.


    Pence urged Trump not to release the transcript as Pence is a politician and would do what a politician would do and stonewall. Democrats were counting on Trump not releasing it.

    But also the timing of its release. He got the transcript out before the complaint. That means he not only undercut the complaint, democrats couldn't run stories for a week about the complaint. And if the complaint was released first, the story on the transcript was "it was made up". In fact it corroborated some high level details revealing its authenticity, but shows the complaint is just drivel.
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    you guys are always looking for ways not to confront issues headon. With the russia investigation, instead of dealing with the findings etc, you went to challenging how it started. Similar thing here. As if requiring first hand knowledge is anything but an arbitrary barrier that could help conceal wrongdoing. If you suspect someone who doesn't have first hand knowledge is in the wrong, you can always just investigate the report.

    i am amazed any of you are real people
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    Is there no limit to what people will believe if it is prefaced by the phrase,
    "Scientists say" ?

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    Originally Posted by semitope View Post
    you guys are always looking for ways not to confront issues headon. With the russia investigation, instead of dealing the with findings etc, you went to challenging how it started. Similar thing here. As if requiring first hand knowledge is anything but an arbitrary barrier that could help conceal wrongdoing. If you suspect someone who doesn't have first hand knowledge is in the wrong, you can always just investigate the report.

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    heard from someone else that you like to fuk goats
    We need to open an investigation into that
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    Originally Posted by semitope View Post
    you guys are always looking for ways not to confront issues headon. With the russia investigation, instead of dealing with the findings etc, you went to challenging how it started. Similar thing here. As if requiring first hand knowledge is anything but an arbitrary barrier that could help conceal wrongdoing. If you suspect someone who doesn't have first hand knowledge is in the wrong, you can always just investigate the report.

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    There was nothing wrong with the conversation. The Ukraine President mentioned wanting to clean up the corruption in his own country, and Trump said that he hoped that the Ukraine President could pass along any info that he knows about Ukraine's role in the 2016 election, how crowdstrike factored in, and how know corrupt acts (like biden's where he brags about withholding funds to influence foreign politics and protect his son's business) should be investigated.

    This is information that Ukraine has been trying to get to the US for a long time, but we had corrupt folks running our intelligence community. Now we have a straight shooter in Barr and the dems are terrified.
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    https://twitter.com/zcohencnn/status...839604225?s=21

    More fake news debunked - by a trump appointed IG

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    There is an open and ongoing coup attempt against our sitting President.

    I’ll say it again, there is an open and ongoing coup attempt against our sitting President. Crazier still, it’s not the FIRST COUP ATTEMPT ON HIM.

    Think about that, we’re witnessing history. The outcome of this period will effect the US forever, one way or another.
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    Lmao Trump supporters are so gullible. Wow.

    Do you guys believe every conspiracy theory out there? You people are so pathetic.
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    Originally Posted by FoxMcCocks View Post
    https://twitter.com/zcohencnn/status...839604225?s=21

    More fake news debunked - by a trump appointed IG

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    Trumpers are just going to say the Trump appointed IG is leading a coup attempt lol
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    heard from someone else that you like to fuk goats
    We need to open an investigation into that
    No need for an investigation
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    It's good that it has been debunked. Trump fans should move on, don't be like the libs
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    The whistleblower stated on the form that he or she possessed
    both first-hand and other information
    Actual complaint:
    I was not a direct witness

    So the whistleblower lied on the complaint?
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    This is the deep state vermin leading the secret coup guise...



    Atkinson became Inspector General of the Intelligence Community (IGIC) in May 2018.[1] He was nominated to the position in November 2017 by President Donald Trump,[7](lol) and was confirmed by the United States Senate by voice vote on May 14, 2018.[8] At his confirmation hearings, Atkinson indicated that he would bring order to the troubled IGIC's office, which had a reputation for dysfunction, and pledged to revive a whistleblower program that had become virtually defunct under the previous Inspector General,[9] saying that he would "encourage, operate, and enforce a program for authorized disclosures by whistleblowers within the intelligence community that validates moral courage without compromising national security and without retaliation."[4] Restoring the whistleblower program was a major priority among members of the Senate Intelligence Committee.[9]
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