MISC Crypto Crew (MCC) Vol.1 Ethereum is getting flushed faster than my morning deuce

[johnnycash123]

Bitcointalk is like the worst place to base your decision off of. There's too many shills and sheeps on there. Only thing good Bitcointalk is for is to read announcements of upcoming coins. Bitcointalk is what Investorshub is to the stock market.

Regarding Blocknet, go ahead and try to look up their team especially the devs. Can you find them? When you do, who are they? They're the same team that started two other scam coins. They also have ties with ZenCash (ZEN) which is another scam and that project seems to be a pump and dump as they made another project called Hush. There's logs and screen captures of their conversations that has been leaked of them discussing how they'll pump and dump these projects. It'll be a bit hard to find though. Even their wallets to all these projects are the same. They just change the template, slap on the new logo, and there you go. New project for normies to throw money at.

This is the same group but they have many ties to other scam groups: http://www.coindesk.com/florida-grou...oin-pump-dump/

Ok thanks! Seems reasonable. So many scam coins its ridiculous. The only reason I was interested is because someone who really likes SHIFT was also saying BLOCKNET is good.

[TheUniBrah]

Fellow shift brah checking in. It's low right now, FYI.

made some good money on shift today.
still have half of my position, but while its low im dropping some more cash on it.

hopefully its mein turn to go to the moon.

[Tommy12Orr4]

Ok thanks! Seems reasonable. So many scam coins its ridiculous. The only reason I was interested is because someone who really likes SHIFT was also saying BLOCKNET is good.

What are your plans with ANS and SHIFT? I have about 1,000 Antshares, but I may sell some more of my ETH and put some more into ANS.

Not too familiar with SHIFT. What are your thoughts on it?

[CryptoBandit]

Yeah that was me i think, i got in at 1.53. Hoping it dips further atm so i can purchase more. Out of everything I reckon this has the most potential. I pretty much went through every coin that has a decent trading volume, so from coins 50 to 300? And ignored the ones with stupid names. Surprisingly there are very few legit coins. Shift was by far the best one i found.

I got ANS too which I will most likely keep for the long haul as long as this conference is not too stupid. And i bought most at 1.90 so still in profit alot.

Fellow shift brah checking in. It's low right now, FYI.

When looking into a coin to invest the first thing I look at is the team. If they are anonymous or don't have enough information on their bio, 9/10 it's a scam and I stop there. Yes, you can still make money off of scam coins on the pumps but if you plan to hold long you'll be holding bags.

Now let us look at Shift's team. Anonymous devs, devs with just first name and no bio. Not saying Shift is a scam, but I wouldn't throw my money at this project.

[Dota2Brah]

three on my radar right now:

ANS for safe long-term gains

Lomocoin (LMS) for potential 10x (interesting idea, website doesn't give much info about team)

SHIFT for potential 10x (comparable to Lisk coin, but again not much info on team)


coins to avoid:

1) status (they fuked up their ICO, people will work against this coin)

2) civic (vinny lingham, the CEO, is a weird guy)

3) any marijuana coin (the past week was just a marijuana coin pump...not gonna happen anymore)

[propreffered7]

Anybody have a feel for eth's calendar?

I saw someone say there were hints that an eea announcement could be made tomorrow but they didn't think it was true.

I'm talking anything real solid on the near horizon?

[Jhalf]

three on my radar right now:

ANS for safe long-term gains

Lomocoin (LMS) for potential 10x (interesting idea, website doesn't give much info about team)

SHIFT for potential 10x (comparable to Lisk coin, but again not much info on team)


coins to avoid:

1) status (they fuked up their ICO, people will work again this coin)

2) civic (vinny lingham, the CEO, is a weird guy)

3) any marijuana coin (the past week was just a marijuana coin pump...not gonna happen anymore)

1) if the app succeeds they wont have a choice but to use the token

2) Agree

3) I think a few are undervalued depending on dev team. Imagine getting kickbacks when you go buy from a dispensary, or getting rewards for being a member

[johnnycash123]

When looking into a coin to invest the first thing I look at is the team. If they are anonymous or don't have enough information on their bio, 9/10 it's a scam and I stop there. Yes, you can still make money off of scam coins on the pumps but if you plan to hold long you'll be holding bags.

Now let us look at Shift's team. Anonymous devs, devs with just first name and no bio. Not saying Shift is a scam, but I wouldn't throw my money at this project.

In the next few weeks they are releasing their phantom product. I will wait until after this then reevaluate. This will determine how legit this project really is. They have already realesed a beta which many people have used. So i highly doubt it is a scam, but you never know.

[eternalone423]

I saw a very good opportunity jump in on VIA. So far so good.

[Jhalf]

****in sia is releasing an ASIC for mining. FML, was hoping to mine a hundred thousand coins by the end of the year

[Skelaton4]

Maybe dumb question butane they releasing a miner you can buy?

[zacharytucker]

Read up on BAT, ICN, Bitshares, TenX, and Digix.

BAT is a better system of advertisement that benefits publishers and users

I don't think this part is true. I'm talking from a place inside the internet traffic industry. The concept of BAT seemed utopian at first but it falters after a closer inspection (at least for me). There are several problems with it that I can see.

BAT is supposed to provide targeted traffic to publishers that they can then sell to advertisers. Why would advertisers buy from pubs when they can just buy the traffic directly from BAT and cut out the middle man? The concept would only work until advertisers find out about it and word spreads, and it would spread pretty fast if BAT gets widely adopted.

And would this targeted traffic really lead to conversions for the advertiser? Only if they have legitimate deals and offers that genuinely save people money or effort, which are few and far between in this industry. Most ads are rip offs which seem like they're saving you money until you get the re-bill for $160 the next month.

The only incentive for users to allow ads to show is that they get value (BAT tokens) from it. Nobody actually WANTS advertisements, for most people they are a nuisance we put up with. Hell, that's the reason for BAT's existence in the first place (only put up with ads when you want to and you'll get "paid" for it).

Beyond that, it adds length to the already long road advertisers have to travel to make money off of their advertisements for what I predict will be a trickle of traffic. Users have to:
1. download the browser - only a fraction of people know about crypto, and a fraction of that fraction will use the Brave browser
2. enable the ads - only a fraction of ^ that fraction of people will enable ads
3. actually pay attention to the ads - good fkn luck, you better have a really enticing offer. most people will only be running ads so they can make and flip some tokens
4. Be dumb enough to actually click on it and enter their info for the conversion - This one's the kicker. While i'm sure there's a lot of dumb people in the crypto space, i don't think its the same tards who click on banner advertisement/pop-ups like dis bish tryna sell me a chevy on the side banner over here ----->

If I'm misinformed on any of these points please aware me, I read about BAT for like a week before the ICO so i'm a little rusty on some info but this is what I remember thinking about it. I couldnt get in on the ICO but if I did I wouldve flipped and dipped by now.

also reps for being knowledgeable in this thread man, i appreciate informed opinions on crypto

[Vbrah]

got back in ANS at 9. patiently waiting for the pump and then dump

[Luc1fer]

So bored of all these chit-coins and their ridiculous market valuations. Looking forward to the big crash when all the suckers at the bottom of the pyramid learn a valuable lesson. If you've made a decent return already on these tokens, just cash out for the love of god.

Bitcoin, Eth, Stratis and perhaps a couple of others may be worth holding. I'm worried about Eth's scalability right now though.

[TruKnight]

so has anyone looked into alt coin trading and tax regulations? ive done some reading and its not clear if its a taxable event or not each time you trade between cryptos without cashing out into usd. this could be a srs problem for the day trader brahs.

[propreffered7]

I don't think this part is true. I'm talking from a place inside the internet traffic industry. The concept of BAT seemed utopian at first but it falters after a closer inspection (at least for me). There are several problems with it that I can see.

BAT is supposed to provide targeted traffic to publishers that they can then sell to advertisers. Why would advertisers buy from pubs when they can just buy the traffic directly from BAT and cut out the middle man? The concept would only work until advertisers find out about it and word spreads, and it would spread pretty fast if BAT gets widely adopted.

And would this targeted traffic really lead to conversions for the advertiser? Only if they have legitimate deals and offers that genuinely save people money or effort, which are few and far between in this industry. Most ads are rip offs which seem like they're saving you money until you get the re-bill for $160 the next month.

The only incentive for users to allow ads to show is that they get value (BAT tokens) from it. Nobody actually WANTS advertisements, for most people they are a nuisance we put up with. Hell, that's the reason for BAT's existence in the first place (only put up with ads when you want to and you'll get "paid" for it).

Beyond that, it adds length to the already long road advertisers have to travel to make money off of their advertisements for what I predict will be a trickle of traffic. Users have to:
1. download the browser - only a fraction of people know about crypto, and a fraction of that fraction will use the Brave browser
2. enable the ads - only a fraction of ^ that fraction of people will enable ads
3. actually pay attention to the ads - good fkn luck, you better have a really enticing offer. most people will only be running ads so they can make and flip some tokens
4. Be dumb enough to actually click on it and enter their info for the conversion - This one's the kicker. While i'm sure there's a lot of dumb people in the crypto space, i don't think its the same tards who click on banner advertisement/pop-ups like dis bish tryna sell me a chevy on the side banner over here ----->

If I'm misinformed on any of these points please aware me, I read about BAT for like a week before the ICO so i'm a little rusty on some info but this is what I remember thinking about it. I couldnt get in on the ICO but if I did I wouldve flipped and dipped by now.

also reps for being knowledgeable in this thread man, i appreciate informed opinions on crypto

I think there are too many ways they can go with it. The development team is also top tier

I doubt Brendan eich would be in on it to waste his time. Also he's said there's already 150 publishers willing to work with them and some of them are very big but they haven't released them yet. There was a YouTube video stating this.

I do think the biggest problem is getting people away from what they have, but then again how are opera, cheetah, and dolphin browsers still around?

I do also think their "ecosystem" where you can use bat will have to be worth it.

And on top of this advertisers will have to make better ads (because they can't just rely on huge ads and throwing out as many as they can)

I see a win for everybody

Most of the negative I've ever seen espoused toward has to do with convenience - people having to change their browsers

[zacharytucker]

I think there are too many ways they can go with it. The development team is also top tier

I doubt Brendan eich would be in on it to waste his time. Also he's said there's already 150 publishers willing to work with them and some of them are very big but they haven't released them yet. There was a YouTube video stating this.

I do think the biggest problem is getting people away from what they have, but then again how are opera, cheetah, and dolphin browsers still around?

I do also think their "ecosystem" where you can use bat will have to be worth it.

And on top of this advertisers will have to make better ads (because they can't just rely on huge ads and throwing out as many as they can)

I see a win for everybody

Most of the negative I've ever seen espoused toward has to do with convenience - people having to change their browsers

I hope you're right man, I would be pretty stoked to implement BAT with my company and i'm sure i'd get some kickbacks for awareing them on it. and you're absolutely right their team is absolutely top notch. as for those other browsers i've only heard of Opera. Unseating any large amount of market share from Chrome/Safari and getting widespread adoption is going to be a monumental task but if anybody's gonna do it it's Brendan Mothafukkin Eich!

[anonymous]

So bored of all these chit-coins and their ridiculous market valuations. Looking forward to the big crash when all the suckers at the bottom of the pyramid learn a valuable lesson. If you've made a decent return already on these tokens, just cash out for the love of god.

Bitcoin, Eth, Stratis and perhaps a couple of others may be worth holding. I'm worried about Eth's scalability right now though.

You do not think Golem, ICN, and XEM will survive?

[propreffered7]

I hope you're right man, I would be pretty stoked to implement BAT with my company and i'm sure i'd get some kickbacks for awareing them on it. and you're absolutely right their team is absolutely top notch. as for those other browsers i've only heard of Opera. Unseating any large amount of market share from Chrome/Safari and getting widespread adoption is going to be a monumental task but if anybody's gonna do it it's Brendan Mothafukkin Eich!

Here's the YouTube vid with eich saying they have 150 publishers already during a speech

https://youtu.be/h_jtopVp8dk?t=11m30s

[BostonRockets]

So bored of all these chit-coins and their ridiculous market valuations. Looking forward to the big crash when all the suckers at the bottom of the pyramid learn a valuable lesson. If you've made a decent return already on these tokens, just cash out for the love of god.

Bitcoin, Eth, Stratis and perhaps a couple of others may be worth holding. I'm worried about Eth's scalability right now though.

what do you think about ANS?

gonna take a nap, wake up, workout real quick and wait for the ANS conference

[yuja]

so has anyone looked into alt coin trading and tax regulations? ive done some reading and its not clear if its a taxable event or not each time you trade between cryptos without cashing out into usd. this could be a srs problem for the day trader brahs.

It's supposed to be taxable but unless the exchange hands out every user's every transaction how is the IRS going to know?

haven't really done my due diligence on taxes but I plan to hold my ETH for more than a year so if I do end up paying taxes it'll be less. Rest will get funneled around from coin to coin until some real regulation comes out for crypto

[chino3]

if ur buying in low, u have to make a prediction on the bottom moron, u cant just go with the flow. sub $300 ideal. great plan, i love the detail. u clearly dont know whats going on. this is my last reply for this.

btw *******, I was wanting to get in at under $300 which was achievable for hours for non CB folk, and almost immediately went up to $320 and is still hovering around $330. You calling me a moron for not having a bottom prediction, and me calling you out on (in your words) CB intentionally downing their site for "emotions" is just beyond cringe and toxic. .. but yeah keep flaming

[MetroBrah]

So bored of all these chit-coins and their ridiculous market valuations. Looking forward to the big crash when all the suckers at the bottom of the pyramid learn a valuable lesson. If you've made a decent return already on these tokens, just cash out for the love of god.

Bitcoin, Eth, Stratis and perhaps a couple of others may be worth holding. I'm worried about Eth's scalability right now though.

im taking a hard look at Factom and Library Credits right now

Factom appears to be a business focused sia with a huge team. I could see this being implemented in big corporations to store their data

I like the concept of library credits and haven't seen anything else like it. Could possibly come out on top in that entertainment arena, i can imagine it taking over like youtube did, unless something else comes out thats better

[manjay]

If ANS announce atleast 2 of the following, market cap will rise top 10 imo (especially after eth's recent fail)

1. Smart contracts superior to eth.
2. Rebranding announcement as a partnership with a big commercial player. Note i dont know why this wouldnt be the case...otherwise why bother rebranding.

[Tommy12Orr4]

Bought another 450 Antshares. Really hoping for a spike after this conference, but I know there's the chance for a big dip as well.

[Parkerscott]

So bored of all these chit-coins and their ridiculous market valuations. Looking forward to the big crash when all the suckers at the bottom of the pyramid learn a valuable lesson. If you've made a decent return already on these tokens, just cash out for the love of god.

Bitcoin, Eth, Stratis and perhaps a couple of others may be worth holding. I'm worried about Eth's scalability right now though.

So much this. If it werent for all these chit-coins I would probably be sitting on a half mil. I have a little bit left that I need to cash out soon, but I think this is all going to come crashing down real soon. Too many normies and insane valuations for any of this to remain stable for the medium term. Just lol at $200 mil for a messaging app and bogging down the entire network. I understand that status is going to be more than that but just lol at that valuation.

[zacharytucker]

Here's the YouTube vid with eich saying they have 150 publishers already during a speech

https://youtu.be/h_jtopVp8dk?t=11m30s

right well... all 150 of those publishers will be selling this traffic at a markup to advertisers until the advertisers find out about BAT and buy the traffic for themselves without the markup. I dont see a long term game for the publishers here.

[Vbrah]

btw *******, I was wanting to get in at under $300 which was achievable for hours for non CB folk, and almost immediately went up to $320 and is still hovering around $330. You calling me a moron for not having a bottom prediction, and me calling you out on (in your words) CB intentionally downing their site for "emotions" is just beyond cringe and toxic. .. but yeah keep flaming

i really think he works for coinbase/gdax srs

[TylerDerpden]

getting in on pump and dumps is not easy. it's for day traders who get fortunate with their reading of charts or manage to get on the pump early. it's really easy to lose money that way. the other way people have made good money is getting in on ICO's and dumped when they hit exchanges, hence why people have gone mad for ICO's; i mean, something like Status which is an unproven messaging app has generated many, many millions of dollars in less than 24 hours. no way their token is worth that much of a market cap as it's completely unproven and driven by speculation that people can get in and flip a quick buck when it gets traded.

Why dump when they hit exchanges? Does the price usually drop at that point?


Also, does anyone know of a way to see the past ICO prices of various coins?

[yuja]

Why dump when they hit exchanges? Does the price usually drop at that point?


Also, does anyone know of a way to see the past ICO prices of various coins?

Price usually spikes right when it hits exchange, from people who missed out on the ICO. Afterwards it usually goes back down (see BAT)

for ICO prices of any coin just open the market chart for the coin and go as far back as you can? Should work