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    Originally Posted by propreffered7 View Post
    what does them being registered as securities mean?

    taxed differently?

    i feel like the only thing this does ia prevent whales getting in on icos, for however many million.. then dumping on poorer folk
    I'm assuming they will have to go through the same process that companies do when they go public (Act of 1933 and 1934), which can be a long drawn out process but protects investors and makes companies liable if they commit fraud. The thing is, most ICOs no longer allow U.S. residents to participate so I don't even think the laws would apply to them.
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    Originally Posted by Vbrah View Post
    I'm assuming they will have to go through the same process that companies do when they go public (Act of 1933 and 1934), which can be a long drawn out process but protects investors and makes companies liable if they commit fraud. The thing is, most ICOs no longer allow U.S. residents to participate so I don't even think the laws would apply to them.
    true that. just go over seas

    so, theoretically, if they didnt go outside the us.. the only thing that would happen is theyd need to be a legit company

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    Heads up brehs Coinstarter giving away 75 coins just for signing up , 1 hour left, get some free coins for maximum gains www.coinstarter.com?ref=odonqxjtj

    800 coins = 1 BTC
    Have fun with your extra 25 tokens mexibro

    and strong wtf, did i just get the equivalent of $240 for no reason at all? How can they possibly back this up... I'm definitely pulling my 75 "tokens" out as quickly as possible once they let me haha

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    does this mean every old company has to register as a security?

    further, does this mean that the entire crypto market is regulated, so new "companies"/ coins would have to be a security or they would be fined/ it wouldnt be possible? im not really sure of the implications..

    could these coins exist as non-securities in the u.s. - in the form of a highly speculative investment

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    Originally Posted by ShoopAhh View Post
    Have fun with your extra 25 tokens mexibro

    and strong wtf, did i just get the equivalent of $240 for no reason at all? How can they possibly back this up... I'm definitely pulling my 75 "tokens" out as quickly as possible once they let me haha
    crypto world everyone forgets, this is a very small sign up for free tokens window. all the shills kickstarter in a month and they wont know what hit em when we dump on them
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    Originally Posted by propreffered7 View Post
    does this mean every old company has to register as a security?

    further, does this mean that the entire crypto market is regulated, so new "companies"/ coins would have to be a security or they would be fined/ it wouldnt be possible? im not really sure of the implications..

    could these coins exist as non-securities in the u.s. - in the form of a highly speculative investment
    I don't mind some sort of regulation tbh. You have to admit this ico stuff is getting out of hand.
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    Originally Posted by Vbrah View Post
    I don't mind some sort of regulation tbh. You have to admit this ico stuff is getting out of hand.
    I concur.
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    Originally Posted by Vbrah View Post
    I don't mind some sort of regulation tbh. You have to admit this ico stuff is getting out of hand.
    definitely. im just curious to the deleterious effects.

    could it possibly mean all of these companies just go overseas and anyone who owns any non-security crypto in america is holding something illegal
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    shill
    I personally don't give a crap when people say this. But it does irritate me when it's said without any objective evidence to back it up. I'm researching the Omise company, SEA/Asian market, OmiseGo technicals in the whitepaper and will probably post a summary for everyone later. I'll end by saying to anyone who does not know what Omise or Omise Go is... THEN DON'T INVEST IN IT.

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    Originally Posted by Vbrah View Post
    I don't mind some sort of regulation tbh. You have to admit this ico stuff is getting out of hand.
    At the same time regulation is against the spirit of cryptos.
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    anyone who does not know what Omise or Omise Go is... THEN DON'T INVEST IN IT.
    That should go for all investments. Also, don't invest unless you have reason to believe the current token value is undervalued (now or as realistic potential).
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    Originally Posted by Luc1fer View Post
    That should go for all investments. Also, don't invest unless you have reason to believe the current token value is undervalued (now or as realistic potential).
    Exactly. Nice to see the whales on Bittrex stopping the price from going up for now by setting up huge sell walls.

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    those investing in omg should have some portfolio in tenx as well, on the surface they are quite similar projects but not exactly the same if you look deeper, sort of like ios vs android

    both are priced reasonably at this market rate and i think they will do really well with mass market adoption of their products, particularly in asia
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    Originally Posted by meteoraniac View Post
    those investing in omg should have some portfolio in tenx as well, on the surface they are quite similar projects but not exactly the same if you look deeper, sort of like ios vs android

    both are priced reasonably at this market rate and i think they will do really well with mass market adoption of their products, particularly in asia
    I'm heavily invested in both. Ten x is also a very well run coin, the owner is also very active on social media. And it's still not alot above ICO price. They have a working product out ad well. Both omg and ten x have a bright future in my opinion.

    It's two separate ideas not entirely competing like ppl say. Ten x is like a bank card whixh u can use yiur crypto ad cash. While omg is currently mostly a payment processing system. Whixh may also have a card in the future?

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    Originally Posted by johnnycash123 View Post
    I'm heavily invested in both. Ten x is also a very well run coin, the owner is also very active on social media. And it's still not alot above ICO price. They have a working product out ad well. Both omg and ten x have a bright future in my opinion.
    where can i check out tenX?
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    Originally Posted by mikebadg3 View Post
    where can i check out tenX?
    YouTube tenx. The ceo has lots of videos explaining stuff. Shows u everything his staff, his office, how it's run. Seems like a friendly guy, Def not a scam.


    I feel promising coins with a marlet cap in the 100mil range have alot of potential. This is one of a couple imo

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    What would y'all do in my situation?

    I currently own 158 omg, about $240 invested into it (1.51 average buy-in) ( 158 omg currently worth $200)

    I foresee the price of omg dipping further between now and Aug 1.

    I would like to ideally break even and sell my omg @1.51/1.52 and buy in at the next dip. With the current trend however it doesn't look likely to get that high.
    Wouldn't hurt to post a sell offer and leave it on there overnight though, possibly throughout the day right?

    Also, i've been crunching my brain the past few days going between USD/BTC->OMG/BTC->USD/OMG

    . Does this formula seem accurate?

    usd/btc X omg/btc = usd/omg

    2600/1 X .0006744/1 = $1.75/1
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    Originally Posted by mikebadg3 View Post
    What would y'all do in my situation?

    I currently own 158 omg, about $240 invested into it (1.51 average buy-in) ( 158 omg currently worth $200)

    I foresee the price of omg dipping further between now and Aug 1.

    I would like to ideally break even and sell my omg @1.51/1.52 and buy in at the next dip. With the current trend however it doesn't look likely to get that high.
    Wouldn't hurt to post a sell offer and leave it on there overnight though, possibly throughout the day right?

    Also, i've been crunching my brain the past few days going between USD/BTC->OMG/BTC->USD/OMG

    . Does this formula seem accurate?

    usd/btc X omg/btc = usd/omg

    2600/1 X .0006744/1 = $1.75/1
    Can you buy more at a lower price to being your average buy in down? That's what I would probably do

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    Originally Posted by johnnycash123 View Post
    Can you buy more at a lower price to being your average buy in down? That's what I would probably do
    card reached it's limit, 2 more days for bank deposit to roll through. temporarily, nay but that does sound like a viable more realistic option
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    Originally Posted by mikebadg3 View Post
    card reached it's limit, 2 more days for bank deposit to roll through. temporarily, nay but that does sound like a viable more realistic option
    Just hold on to them man the price is going down because the whole market is dipping right now, just look at a week or so ago it happened then too and things recovered just fine. If OMG was the only coin crashing while the rest of the market was ok then I would be worried, not right now. Since BTC went down and a lot of OMG is bought through BTC its value went down aswell, just put some sell orders in at like 1.7-1.8 and take your profits in a few days when things become ok again.
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    Originally Posted by curtainbrah View Post
    Just hold on to them man the price is going down because the whole market is dipping right now, just look at a week or so ago it happened then too and things recovered just fine. If OMG was the only coin crashing while the rest of the market was ok then I would be worried, not right now. Since BTC went down and a lot of OMG is bought through BTC its value went down aswell, just put some sell orders in at like 1.7-1.8 and take your profits in a few days when things become ok again.
    cheers

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    http://www.tokenverse.com/news/russi...galizing-icos/

    your thoughts? its a pretty quick read
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    Originally Posted by johnnycash123 View Post
    I'm heavily invested in both. Ten x is also a very well run coin, the owner is also very active on social media. And it's still not alot above ICO price. They have a working product out ad well. Both omg and ten x have a bright future in my opinion.

    It's two separate ideas not entirely competing like ppl say. Ten x is like a bank card whixh u can use yiur crypto ad cash. While omg is currently mostly a payment processing system. Whixh may also have a card in the future?
    I won't rule this idea out completely, the company that OmiseGo just acquired, Paysbuy, has a mobile credit card.
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    to all you gambling brahs who use 5Dimes- I just thought of a sketchy workaround to Coinbase's weekly card limits/fees:

    deposit funds onto 5dimes with your CC/debit card
    initiate BTC withdrawal (free, once a week BTC withdrawal up to 5k, or 10k if you exclusively have deposited using btc)

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    Originally Posted by curtainbrah View Post
    Just hold on to them man the price is going down because the whole market is dipping right now, just look at a week or so ago it happened then too and things recovered just fine. If OMG was the only coin crashing while the rest of the market was ok then I would be worried, not right now. Since BTC went down and a lot of OMG is bought through BTC its value went down aswell, just put some sell orders in at like 1.7-1.8 and take your profits in a few days when things become ok again.
    Excuse my ignorance on this brah, but how do you put in sell orders to where it'll do like that and just automatically sell it off at a certain price?

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    Originally Posted by TheDude88 View Post
    to all you gambling brahs who use 5Dimes- I just thought of a sketchy workaround to Coinbase's weekly card limits/fees:

    deposit funds onto 5dimes with your CC/debit card
    initiate BTC withdrawal (free, once a week BTC withdrawal up to 5k, or 10k if you exclusively have deposited using btc)

    idea is good in theory, but depositing at 5d with cc/db isn't exactly safe anymore. tons of people got their cards charged with lots of random chit this year. Personally know a few people and theres a lot of threads about it on covers/sbr that caused a huge chitstorm

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    Originally Posted by XPmpnII View Post
    Excuse my ignorance on this brah, but how do you put in sell orders to where it'll do like that and just automatically sell it off at a certain price?
    Theyre called limit sell orders. So on your exchange you just set up a limit sell order and put in the USD price of the coin to whatever you want to sell at so when the market price reaches this they will get sold automatically.
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    Originally Posted by kyleTX View Post
    idea is good in theory, but depositing at 5d with cc/db isn't exactly safe anymore. tons of people got their cards charged with lots of random chit this year. Personally know a few people and theres a lot of threads about it on covers/sbr that caused a huge chitstorm
    this is very true
    my bank account (well, debit card) has been compromised 3 times this year alone - I have no doubt that 5D is the culprit. I'll never deposit via debit card again, only going the BTC route



    Pretty sure they're selling the info you have to give them upon withdrawal request (photo id, cc/debit card #s, etc)

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    Originally Posted by TheDude88 View Post
    this is very true
    my bank account (well, debit card) has been compromised 3 times this year alone - I have no doubt that 5D is the culprit. I'll never deposit via debit card again, only going the BTC route

    [img]http://i.imgur.com/xxcOfOD.pn/img]

    Pretty sure they're selling the info you have to give them upon withdrawal request (photo id, cc/debit card #s, etc)
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    Interested to learn how your bank handles the fraud charges. Overseas gambling site? I'd think that money would be kissed goodbye.

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