Stacking creatine with an anti-androgenic to counter increase in DHT and hair loss?

[DassItMan]

I've read a lot of brahs saying that Creatine was great for the gym but was leading to a lot of balding which in a lot of cases got better once they stopped taking creatine. I imagine this hair loss manifests for some as a result of the increased DHT from taking creatine.

Would taking an anti-androgenic supplement that lowers DHT be enough to counter Creatine's effect on DHT address this problem? Or could the negative effects of the anti-androgenic supplement on DHT be much greater than Creatine's positive effect on DHT? The supplement I'm thinking of specifically is a mushroom called Lion's Mane. It's known as a great supplement for mental purposes but does seem to have a negative effect on DHT

[ayyy]

have you considered just not taking creatine if this is a concern?

[ralphlaurenbrah]

Just don’t take care it lmao

It doesn’t do **** except make you bloated

[SkinnyKappa]

if you’re planning to take a stack then might as well make it a meaningful one. use the other type of creatine (celltech)

[DassItMan]

tbh I moreso just want to take Lion's Mane; having read great things about it, it seems like something I'd greatly benefit from.

Just don't want to deal with a tanked libido from it's possible negative effects on DHT

[calvesbr0]

Honestly, I wouldn't worry about it unless you're taking a huge dose of creatine or for whatever reason hypersensitive to DHT. I've never heard of anyone losing hair from creatine

[northernlights7]

Balding is caused by genetics. Other factors may aggravate/speed it up somewhat, but creatine use in and of itself isn't going to cause you to become a baldcel. The reaper literally decides if, when, and to what extent of dues he will be collecting from the moment you are conceived. You're not going to dodge him just by refraining from taking creatine.

If you start balding, you can do everything you want to try to slow it down. But in the end, you just have to learn to embrace it, because there's nothing you can do to truly stop it. Even modern hair transplants are far from a sure thing, and even if they work, you'll eventually lose that too as the places you initially balded on are like trying to plant grass on salted earth. If it's any consolence, the fact that 2/3 men show noticeable hair loss by age 35 pretty clearly verifies that it's not a death sentence with women unless you're a puss about it and let it wreck your confidence.

[DassItMan]

Balding is caused by genetics. Other factors may aggravate/speed it up somewhat, but creatine use in and of itself isn't going to cause you to become a baldcel. The reaper literally decides if, when, and to what extent of dues he will be collecting from the moment you are conceived. You're not going to dodge him just by refraining from taking creatine.

If you start balding, you can do everything you want to try to slow it down. But in the end, you just have to learn to embrace it, because there's nothing you can do to truly stop it. Even modern hair transplants are far from a sure thing, and even if they work, you'll eventually lose that too as the places you initially balded on are like trying to plant grass on salted earth. If it's any consolence, the fact that 2/3 men show noticeable hair loss by age 35 pretty clearly verifies that it's not a death sentence with women unless you're a puss about it and let it wreck your confidence.

most men by age 35 are whiteknights who refer to their girl as "the boss" and have no soul too though.

I'd rather kill myself than go bald [srs].

As a good looking guy I once got a buzz cut and it was fascinating but not in a good way. I would just go about my day and no girl would even as much as smile at me or check me out anymore, shyt was fukd. How do you even live with that much of a change. Was quite miserable tbh until my hair grew back.

Not balding rn but my dad is pretty much bald so I want to take steps to be as safe as possible

[Desimus20]

Why would you even bother taking creatine (unless you are competing or something) if you know it's bad for your hair.
bizzare.
Hair > gains.

[anonymous]

most men by age 35 are whiteknights who refer to their girl as "the boss" and have no soul too though.

I'd rather kill myself than go bald [srs].

As a good looking guy I once got a buzz cut and it was fascinating but not in a good way. I would just go about my day and no girl would even as much as smile at me or check me out anymore, shyt was fukd. How do you even live with that much of a change. Was quite miserable tbh until my hair grew back.

Not balding rn but my dad is pretty much bald so I want to take steps to be as safe as possible

You'd rather kill yourself than go bald?

What a pathetic, weak man you are. Get your test levels checked srs

[DassItMan]

You'd rather kill yourself than go bald?

What a pathetic, weak man you are. Get your test levels checked srs

[DassItMan]

Creatine doen't increase DHT, the studies didn't factor in the other actions in the participants. You're not going to like the other factor...

Damn that sucks. Tbh so far lifting hasn't hurt my hair but I also use castor oil and cayenne pepper and a specific shampoo called dr regenepure along with nizoral every now and then.

My title is a bit miselading I guess bc I want a supplement that boosts DHT a lot so that I can take Lions Mane without any worries. It seems too risky otherwise

[COUNTRYMIKE]

https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showt...hp?t=173714091

[compan]

You can tell this thread originated in the misc section

[ralphlaurenbrah]

You can tell this thread originated in the misc section

Yeah because here we realize it’s all about your face. Why the fuk would you take something that makes you bloated as fuk by making you hold an insane amount of water for a temporary tiny increase is muscle? Let’s say it doesn’t increase DHT and the study that stated it did was BS. It’s still idiotic to take it.

[COUNTRYMIKE]

Yeah because here we realize it’s all about your face. Why the fuk would you take something that makes you bloated as fuk by making you hold an insane amount of water for a temporary tiny increase is muscle? Let’s say it doesn’t increase DHT and the study that stated it did was BS. It’s still idiotic to take it.

[ralphlaurenbrah]

Keep negging me instead of posting rebuttals LMAO

[DassItMan]

High fat diet heavy lifting, proper Zink Mag levels. Ashwagandha (KSM-66) has been shown to increase test marginally.

Yea tbh I take zinc and magnesium, and have taken Ashwagandha in the past. If anything, it seemed to decrease libido. Apparently it can increase test while decreasing libido. Definitely way too strong of a herb to be taking without cycling, in my experience.

You can tell this thread originated in the misc section

legit lol'd

Yeah because here we realize it’s all about your face. Why the fuk would you take something that makes you bloated as fuk by making you hold an insane amount of water for a temporary tiny increase is muscle? Let’s say it doesn’t increase DHT and the study that stated it did was BS. It’s still idiotic to take it.

lmao brah I didn't even realize that they moved this thread. Probably cause there were too many creatine jokes but I mean creatine as in literal creatine

[bLinkMoore]

Just don’t take care it lmao

It doesn’t do **** except make you bloated

Creatine is possibly the most scientifically researched and supported supplement, it definitely does more than make you bloated

[compan]

Yeah because here we realize it’s all about your face. Why the fuk would you take something that makes you bloated as fuk by making you hold an insane amount of water for a temporary tiny increase is muscle? Let’s say it doesn’t increase DHT and the study that stated it did was BS. It’s still idiotic to take it.

oh my

[lucia316]

Yeah because here we realize it’s all about your face. Why the fuk would you take something that makes you bloated as fuk by making you hold an insane amount of water for a temporary tiny increase is muscle? Let’s say it doesn’t increase DHT and the study that stated it did was BS. It’s still idiotic to take it.

This makes the thread...Win!

[Leafs03]

Dam ralphlaurenbrah you sound like a 14 year old....

[poison]

Damn that sucks. Tbh so far lifting hasn't hurt my hair but I also use castor oil and cayenne pepper and a specific shampoo called dr regenepure along with nizoral every now and then.

My title is a bit miselading I guess bc I want a supplement that boosts DHT a lot so that I can take Lions Mane without any worries. It seems too risky otherwise

Just keep using regenepure, and you'll get about as much protection as you can without taking finasteride or something.

[ralphlaurenbrah]

7 mod negs in one thread for absolutely no reason without a single rebuttal while I’m posting scientific studies backing my claims. Good ****.

[ralphlaurenbrah]

Creatine is possibly the most scientifically researched and supported supplement, it definitely does more than make you bloated

I never said it didn’t, but it does make you bloated for minimal gains


This thread was originally posted in the misc which is why you all think I’m fuking retarded because it’s out of context.

[lucia316]

7 mod negs in one thread for absolutely no reason without a single rebuttal while I’m posting scientific studies backing my claims. Good ****.

Where did you post studies? Not here because "studies" and an actual understanding of how creatine works would have helped you avoid the flack.

I never said it didn’t, but it does make you bloated for minimal gains

This is the crux of where I don't think you understand how creatine works. If you mean bloating as in water retention in subcutaneous tissue, you're incorrect. Creatine saturation forces more water into your muscle cells, not fat. So if you consider your muscle cell swelling and getting larger a bad thing I'm not sure I get that mentality. If you mean that it causes bloating as in GI distress, that's possible, sure. But typically that's because some tried loading. It could also be because their guy just can't handle it. In that case, Creatine HCL is often the fix. Creatine is creatine.

So depending on how you define "bloated," not really. And if you define it the second way, then try HCL to rectify the problem.

[DassItMan]

Just keep using regenepure, and you'll get about as much protection as you can without taking finasteride or something.

yea fuk fin. I might try peppermint oil and castor oil, I've experimented with castor for half a year and it took me from NW1 to NW0.5. Worst case there is RU58841

I never said it didn’t, but it does make you bloated for minimal gains


This thread was originally posted in the misc which is why you all think I’m fuking retarded because it’s out of context.

feels brah. There's the rest of the bodybuilding forum, and then there's the misc. Parallel universes unfortunately. Measlied on recharge

[lucia316]

feels brah. There's the rest of the bodybuilding forum, and then there's the misc. Parallel universes unfortunately. Measlied on recharge

In misc creatine works differently. It's like Bizzaro World...cool.

[Jeff the Repper]

Yeah because here we realize it’s all about your face. Why the fuk would you take something that makes you bloated as fuk by making you hold an insane amount of water for a temporary tiny increase is muscle? Let’s say it doesn’t increase DHT and the study that stated it did was BS. It’s still idiotic to take it.

and you are on the positive crew? you should stop posting bad information

[DassItMan]

In misc creatine works differently. It's like Bizzaro World...cool.

I didn't say that lol. Just saying I find the contrasting differences in people's attitudes towards life between misc and everywhere else on this forum a bit funny. Not saying one is better than the other brah.