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    Is North Korea a legitimate concern?

    Just set off another missle and it sounds like Japan is spooked.


    Personally I think we've laughed and ignored them the past 8-10 years with jokes and brushed it off.. but it seems like 1,2.. 3 years from now; they can have a legitimate missle.

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    They are a problem for sure, unfortunately the cure may be worse than the disease.
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    Second biggest threat to us next to Islamic extremism in my opinion.

    Allowing North Korea to have the capability to deliver a nuclear warhead is crazy. It should not be allowed under any circumstances.
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    Originally Posted by Qong View Post
    Second biggest threat to us next to Islamic extremism in my opinion.

    Allowing North Korea to have the capability to deliver a nuclear warhead is crazy. It should not be allowed under any circumstances.
    regardless of thoughts on trump, what's the best way to go about this?
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    The only place they have the ability to hurt is South Korea. If they attack South Korea, they are finished.

    I don't really know what they're trying to achieve. Maybe it's all ego. The NK people probably think they have just taken over the world with the most recent missile launch (srs).

    China would not back them against America. They are not even close to having the technology it takes to launch a missile which could reach anywhere significant.
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    No, they are just a handy distraction. We can always dust them off and blame them for stuff when we need to get peoples attention.

    They have always been going at it with japan, its not like japan is just an innocent victim wondering what happened. they have always hated dprk.
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    Originally Posted by Foxmulder0 View Post
    regardless of thoughts on trump, what's the best way to go about this?
    Spend 2 years deploying cruise missles in japan with them and south korea helping fund then boom destroy all key military infastructure in a 10 minute window
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    Of course, regardless of the reliability of their warhead delivery system they are a threat. I mean there are other ways to deliver a nuclear payload other than a missle. Hell they could potentially launch from close range via sub or sneak one in on a cargo freighter or become arms dealers and sell their nukes to any of our many enemies on the black market.

    Everyone laughs at their recent failures, but many suspect they're failures are due to them testing dry fuels which are much more portable and inconspicuous.
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    Originally Posted by Foxmulder0 View Post
    regardless of thoughts on trump, what's the best way to go about this?
    That's a tough question. I honestly have no idea but I don't think that we should allow them to have the capability of striking us with a nuclear weapon. Not that I necessarily think that they would do that but they are such a questionable and unreasonable country that it feels very unsafe to even allow them to have the capability. One crazy thought in the North Korean dictator's head could mean millions of innocent lives lost.

    China would be the most obvious path. China is their main friend and backer. China should be able to stop them from further development if we make it clear that the development of their delivery capabilities must end.

    If they fail to listen to China then we should press China to cut all ties with them, and press every other country to cut all ties with them. Their economy is already trash but they would have a very tough time if even China cut all ties with them.

    Once their country was on such hard times we could try to propagandize the North Korean people in an attempt to overthrow the regime. Or perhaps we could try to overthrow the regime ourselves with an assassination or something similar. Once that happened we could swoop in to help and make sure that the country heads down the right path in the future.

    If none of that worked and they continued developing on their delivery capabilities then military strikes would be in order. I assume that we could cripple their military in a short time. The main concern would be their likely retaliation against South Korea and perhaps Japan. Obviously we can't allow South Korea and Japan to be harmed. If we can ensure their safety then I would be for such military strikes against North Korea, if none of the above methods worked in the effort to stop their nuclear weapon delivery capabilities.
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    Originally Posted by Gainzzz View Post
    I don't really know what they're trying to achieve. Maybe it's all ego. The NK people probably think they have just taken over the world with the most recent missile launch (srs).
    They've achieved what every corrupt leader wants: money, women and power. The diss against the "NK people" there is completely unwarranted - it's the equivalent of saying American's jizzed themselves over Trump firing a missile at an airstrip. The common peasant is still just a peasant, no matter their country of origin.

    Watch this video to learn about power structures and why the only way to "deal" with the North Korea problem is to open the country up to the outside world

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    i don't know but kim jong un's facebook page brings the lulz. #thank
    i like the one that says "some pulp".
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    What to do with them is simple.

    Tell the leader to step down and allow the people to vote for the type of government and life they want. Tell him we will allow him to take a comfortable amount of money with him on his way out.

    Make clear this is not a request or option.

    Tell him failure to comply will result in his death or life in imprisonment.

    Tell China or Russia not to even bother sticking out their chest and protesting or making threats because we all know damn sure they aint going to war (war they will lose) with the US over some cenial back water Asian country / leader.
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    They just want another ace in the hole to stem American imperialism against them, kinda like how nukes have prevented ww3
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    Originally Posted by Gainzzz View Post
    The NK people probably think they have just taken over the world with the most recent missile launch (srs).
    The NK people don't believe 99% of the things they say, they parrot this craziness because if they don't they go to slave camps.
    They see indoctrination and they call it "morality", "professionalism", or "maturity" depending on the context.
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    My brother's stationed in Japan and does intelligence/radar stuff in the area. When my mom asked him about NK he just laughed and said that Kim's "most advanced rocket EVAR" is still a clunker from the 60s, that their subs are still diesel, loud, and can be heard from tens of miles away, and that unless they get direct and obvious help from Russian/China they won't successfully launch anything worrisome for a good long while. Russia doesn't want to get involved and China is running critically low on patience with the Kim regime. Plus, Japan has US anti-missile defenses so anything he launches will be shot down within minutes. And all three know that the US, Japan, and SK have tech that's lightyears ahead of theirs and that we'd use that instead of boots, so a war in the region would be bloody as hell and a huge slap in the face for the commie fuqs.

    Seoul, on the other hand, is a completely different matter. They have loads of artillery pointed directly at them so while they can easily detect missiles, it's impossible to detect bullets. And there's also the problem that if you take out KJU he'll just be replaced by one of his (equally crazy) brothers or senior military officials. He has to be overthrown from within but they're all so brainwashed and defeated that nobody has the stones to mount a resistance. Like IronRooster said, if you open the rest of the world up to the people they'll be almost immediately disillusioned and that's your best bet (same thing is what ultimately led to the fall of the Soviet Union). You could also glass the country but you'd literally have to kill every NK citizen in the process to be effective. And no matter what, Seoul gets rained with ordinance in the process.

    So no, Kim is not a legitimate threat for the US or Japan, but he definitely is for South Korea (and China's pride).
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    No.
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    Yes. Allowing them to continue a nuclear weapons program is absolutely unacceptable.



    However war with NK would be far more deadly and intense and difficult and costly than most people realize.


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    What to do with them is simple.

    Tell the leader to step down and allow the people to vote for the type of government and life they want. Tell him we will allow him to take a comfortable amount of money with him on his way out.

    Make clear this is not a request or option.

    Tell him failure to comply will result in his death or life in imprisonment.

    Tell China or Russia not to even bother sticking out their chest and protesting or making threats because we all know damn sure they aint going to war (war they will lose) with the US over some cenial back water Asian country / leader.
    That's actually pretty badass. I have no idea if Kim would go along with it though. I really don't think that these people are reasonable at all so them making the reasonable choice is doubtful. They might go crazy and start attacking everyone around, killing thousands of innocent people before we're able to stop them.
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    They are a problem for sure, unfortunately the cure may be worse than the disease.
    Saddam was a problem also. The problem is how good is our intelligence and there is always that unknown of what happens if you continue to ignore the possible threat.
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