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    Do yourself a favor and just take the orders and try and up-sell the customers to a large fry or a milkshake.
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    At the end of the day it's going to be my ass because nobody in the upper ranks ever takes responsibility... So I half expect to find myself on the unemployment line soon.

    If it isn't sorted within a week, I'm cutting past my direct management team and going straight to the top.
    I assume you've created an email trail laying out your concerns to your management team? You should have some kind of evidence that you've done your bit and they're sitting around with their collective thumb up their arses.

    BTW going to the top is a bold move. It absolutely sounds like the right thing to do but traditionally you end up being treated as a crazy maverick. I guess if you're going to get screwed either way you may as well roll the dice.
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    Many times always start assuming raw survival instinct.

    Who had something to gain, who has something to lose.

    The mid management are protesting their jobs and income, as well as seeking promotion by often skewing performance to look better than it may really be.(possibly conceding QC)

    The upper management are protecting their income, and in some cases the shareholder(incentive stock option income)- however they may also be willing to skew performance by conceding quality - but not as much -their baseline pay is safer with a bigger loss if poor behavior is exposed.

    The board of directors is there to protect the shareholder. If something is happening that would place the company in a position liability, they want to know. If it’s a concession of quality for profit - they may want to know , or already know and have agreed to take that route.

    If senior management or ceo is making compromises to maximize their compensation(board sets the comp package) however possibly placing the shareholder in a bad position- the board wants to know.


    Who to talk to?

    Is the QC compromise causing possible safety issues? You’re pretty protected in they case.

    Is it just poor quality, however the efficacy is increasing the compensation of management?

    How is each level paid?

    Who is it helping get paid more ?

    Who is it not really helping get paid more?

    Tell the person or people it’s not helping the most.


    If it’s just a quality concession that doesn’t really compromise safety and the company had just made that strategic decision as a whole, shut up and do your job and don’t buy their stock.

    The first step I would take is learn each levels compensation package.


    In some cases you send it the senior managements and CC board members.
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    Most large companies have anonymous hotlines (or something equivalent) for these kinds of things, and they usually take incoming reports very seriously
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    Do yourself a favor and just take the orders and try and up-sell the customers to a large fry or a milkshake.

    Not changing the oil in the fryer is srs biz
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    lulz, I don't have to say anything now. 44,000 litres of award winning premium product failed lab testing. A few asses getting kicked.
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    Pipe burst under my driveway, has apparently been leaking for a while, water bill is enormous. Insurance should be covering most of repair costs but we can’t start work until they send out their ******* to look at damage first / 2 days of telling them it’s an emergency and no ******* yet. Water is off st the mains - turninfcit on in bursts for showers etc...

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    Pipe burst under my driveway, has apparently been leaking for a while, water bill is enormous. Insurance should be covering most of repair costs but we can’t start work until they send out their ******* to look at damage first / 2 days of telling them it’s an emergency and no ******* yet. Water is off st the mains - turninfcit on in bursts for showers etc...

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    I went on r/politics this morning. Everyone is mad at fox for being in bed with trump or something. It’s like bizarro world
    Yeah, r/politics used to be more neutral. Then it became a sounding board for anti-Trump Democrats. r/NeutralPolitics/ is basically the old r/politics. So go to neutral politics instead, unless you're just checking up on the state of the anti-Trump echo chamber.

    Regarding the vicissitudes of home ownership, wait until your kids' friends start coming over in droves.
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    My first question is: Why?!?


    My second question is: Why Harry Potter?!?
    I like Harry Potter. Are you implying that you don't? If so, did you really give it a chance to begin with? It stimulates your imagination in very healthy ways.

    Watched the Swan Lake ballet there last month. That was incredible
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    I like Harry Potter. Are you implying that you don't? If so, did you really give it a chance to begin with? It stimulates your imagination in very healthy ways.

    Watched the Swan Lake ballet there last month. That was incredible
    Swan Lake, I can completely get. It's just beautiful. I'm hoping to catch it the next time the ballet company in my area puts on a show but I'm sure it won't be as awesome as the one you saw.

    Alas, I'd never gotten into HP as a kid/teenager and never really tried :-/ I don't see the big deal, I'm afraid. Blah...

    :P

    Tbh, I'd come across other, better books in relation to fantasy/sci-fi. My bf recently introduced me to David Eddings and in terms of fantasy as a genre, it's infinitely better. Just me :-/
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    So Im sitting in my office today and one my old bosses comes in and says they need to see me. I go into the regional managers office with two of her bosses in there also all staring at me with no ex0ression. Im always so critical of myself so Im thinking oh god whats gone wrong...turns out they want to bring me into management to do the training for our entire east coast. We just went through a big merger so theres a large number of people that dont know what they're doing.
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    So Im sitting in my office today and one my old bosses comes in and says they need to see me. I go into the regional managers office with two of her bosses in there also all staring at me and Im always so critical of myself so Im thinking oh god whats gone wrong...turns out they want to bring me into management to do the training for our entire east coast. We just went through a big merger so theres a large number of people that dont know what they're doing.
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    Swan Lake, I can completely get. It's just beautiful. I'm hoping to catch it the next time the ballet company in my area puts on a show but I'm sure it won't be as awesome as the one you saw.

    Alas, I'd never gotten into HP as a kid/teenager and never really tried :-/ I don't see the big deal, I'm afraid. Blah...

    :P

    Tbh, I'd come across other, better books in relation to fantasy/sci-fi. My bf recently introduced me to David Eddings and in terms of fantasy as a genre, it's infinitely better. Just me :-/
    Eddings fan checking in. Are you reading the Belgariad, or the Elenium series?
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    Tbh, I'd come across other, better books in relation to fantasy/sci-fi. My bf recently introduced me to David Eddings and in terms of fantasy as a genre, it's infinitely better. Just me :-/
    Eddings is barely better than a hack. He’s one step above Dean Koontz. HP is limited for sure but in the respective genres of teen vs. adult fantasy, it’s far better.
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    Eddings is barely better than a hack. He’s one step above Dean Koontz. HP is limited for sure but in the respective genres of teen vs. adult fantasy, it’s far better.
    The Belgariad in isolation is one of the greatest deconstructions of the fantasy genre presented in an easy to digest pageturning romp

    The malloreon is the belgariad but worse

    Elenium is the malloreon but butter

    Tamuli is the elenium but worse

    Belgarath the sorcerer and Polgara the sorceress are masturbation on paper

    Althalus is hot trash

    But the belgariad - that’s a good fkn series

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    The Belgariad in isolation is one of the greatest deconstructions of the fantasy genre presented in an easy to digest pageturning romp

    The malloreon is the belgariad but worse

    Elenium is the malloreon but butter

    Tamuli is the elenium but worse

    Belgarath the sorcerer and Polgara the sorceress are masturbation on paper

    Althalus is hot trash

    But the belgariad - that’s a good fkn series

    He’s no Zelazny but he’s readable at his worst and pretty damn good at his best
    Cool, I couldn't read that much Eddings if you paid me. Belgeriad was aight if repetitive and that was enough Eddings, the sequel trilogy was pants and put me off going back.

    Plots are meh, characters and dialogue are repetitive, hero was a Marty Stu, the women are all annoying kunts and the prose is readable but nothing special although to be fair readable is a special all of it's own.
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    Oh, really? To be honest, I wouldn't know any better as I'm just getting into fantasy as a genre (I previously used to HATE it). Have you heard of Raymond E. Feist and if so, any thoughts? It's another recommendation and I'm considering buying his new series (Firemane saga).
    I read Magician and quite liked it. Other people rave about him so he's worth checking out.

    My fantasy recommendation is Joe Abercrombie, particularly The First Law trilogy.

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    Originally Posted by spatchcock View Post
    The Belgariad in isolation is one of the greatest deconstructions of the fantasy genre presented in an easy to digest pageturning romp

    The malloreon is the belgariad but worse

    Elenium is the malloreon but butter

    Tamuli is the elenium but worse

    Belgarath the sorcerer and Polgara the sorceress are masturbation on paper

    Althalus is hot trash

    But the belgariad - that’s a good fkn series

    He’s no Zelazny but he’s readable at his worst and pretty damn good at his best
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    Fuk you guys I read books

    I haven’t read much Raymond feist, I started riftwar years and years ago but it didn’t grab me so cant really comment

    Zelazny is imo the most talented fantasy writer in history. Chronicles of Amber is a good jumping off point but his one offs and short stories are also great - the only Zelazny story I’ve ever felt disappointed by was one that was finished posthumously by another author, and I reckon I can almost pinpoint the moment she took over

    I am also a big fan of Stephen Donaldson, Mordant’s Need moreso than Thomas covenant. I have read those books probly half a dozen times.

    Dan Simmons is more science fantasy than anything else and his prose can sometimes come off as a bit wankerish - the bloke wants every reader to know he’s a distinguished literature professor - but his Hyperion is probably the single greatest fiction novel I’ve ever read. If I had my time again i wouldn’t bother with the sequels - they were nice sci fi but did in the wizard of the first.

    Tad Williams’ Otherland series has a similar sort of fantastic overarching scope to Hyperion but is much denser and sometimes steps into five-plot lines-nothing-actually-happening territory. I’ve read the first book maybe three or four times and tend to get halfway through the second before forgetting about it. The third has been sitting on my bookshelf untouched for ten years

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    Fuk you guys I read books


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    The only book I've read in the last 4 years that didn't deal with politics or economics was Superintelligence. I couldn't stomach reading a fantasy novel.
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    Originally Posted by TheFornicator1 View Post
    The only book I've read in the last 4 years that didn't deal with politics or economics was Superintelligence. I couldn't stomach reading a fantasy novel.

    Only fantasy books I ever remember reading were required reads for school.


    Even then it’s lokey I paid someone to read it and write report.


    I did read the Bible mutilole tomes, not sure what that’s counted as though.



    For the above I say “reading” loosely, if poissovld it’s a audio book while I’m doing business travel.

    Sitting down and flipping pages for me is very rare these days.

    Oh btw peeps just because I’m posting those doesn’t necessarily mean I’m recommending them.




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    You should all read Catch 22.

    It is a good book.
    I can confirm it’s a good book

    Also a terrible movie with one of my favourite actors - Alan Arkin

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    Catch 22 was a great book, dude was a one hit wonder though. Did you ever read Something Happened? Lie. It did not. Closing Time, 33 years to write this sequel to Catch 22? You'd be disappointed if you waited 33 hours for that to show up.

    You want consistency in your quirky dead 20th century literary iconoclasts, read Vonnegut.
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