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    Full body 1on2off

    Gonna keep it short. For an intermediate lifter during a light cut, could this routine be done, 3×Week in an 1on2off fashion, in order to save as much strength as possible, maybe even progress a little? I'm well aware of it being tough to do heavy work 3x week but you do get two days worth of rest in between each workout, and the volume for each bodypart isn't too much considering as you progress you need more stimuli to get stronger and bigger? Are military presses unnecessary in this case? Would a simple full body bench/press/bench be more favorable? Also, anyone out there witj experience that knows how much powerlifting benching carry overs to military presses? Thanks!

    1) Squat 3×5
    2) Bench 3×5
    3) Pendlay row 3×8
    4) Military press 2×8 + pull ups
    5) RDL 3×10
    6) Facepull 3×12
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    I've never claimed to be a mathematician but how can you do something 3x a week 1 on 2 off? You can do it one week but the next week you'll only be able to get 2 days work in...

    Mon: On
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    Thu: On
    Fri:
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    Sun: On

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    When cutting i've always avoided changing too much program wise. Maybe lower the number of sets a bit and drop the off isolation but if you're doing 3x a week fullbody on a bulk there's no real reason you shouldn't be doing the same on your cut.
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    My bad haha idk what went through my head when I said 3×Week lol. Well I'd be doing a PPL(not too much isolation) and wondered if this(less volume) but slightly more frequency would benefit more? I've also heard that training towards strength more when cutting is more benefitial since it demands more from the muscle and cns. Maybe the difference in my PPL and this routine is negligible (more focus on food and recovery?)

    Ps. PPL during my bulk
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    Originally Posted by KottigainZ View Post
    My bad haha idk what went through my head when I said 3×Week lol. Well I'd be doing a PPL(not too much isolation) and wondered if this(less volume) but slightly more frequency would benefit more? I've also heard that training towards strength more when cutting is more benefitial since it demands more from the muscle and cns. Maybe the difference in my PPL and this routine is negligible (more focus on food and recovery?)
    The general goal when cutting is to maintain strength. If you're squatting 3x8 at 200lbs at the start of your cut, you ideally want to be squatting the same at the end (or maybe even a bit more if you're lucky!) The mistake people often make is changing their programs to something full of high rep isolations during a cut because they have been told (incorrectly) that this is good for "toning".

    As i said, i'll usually just stick with whatever program i'm on and lower the volume a bit during a cut by cutting out the odd isolation or accessory lift, which allows me to focus better on the main compounds (the ones i'm more concerned with maintaining my numbers on).
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    I see what you're talking about now. Thanks!
    This us program I'll be running starting may:

    Push
    1) BB bench 3×5
    2) DB incline bench 4×12 / BB OHP 3×8
    3) Unilateral cable crossover 3sets
    4) DB side raise 5×12
    5) Triceps pushdown/extensions 3sets
    6) External rotation 4×15

    Pull
    1) Pull ups 4sets / DL 2×5
    2) BB row 3×10 / Pendlay row 4×8
    3) DB row 3×12 / Lat pulldowns 4×12
    4) Straight arm pulldown 3sets
    5) Biceps EzBar(wide/close) 4sets
    6) Facepull 4×12

    Legs
    1) Squat 3×5
    2) RDL 3×10
    3) Hip thrust 3×10
    4) Unilateral leg press 3×12
    5) Hamstring curl 3×12
    6) Calf hold + calf raise 4sets
    7) DB(jump squat + front squat + wall sit)

    So I'd maybe cut the cable crossovers, straight arm pulldowns, the DB leg superset, reduce arm work by 1 set, and maybe the exercises with 4 sets to 3 instead? How about deadlift, do you keep doing them as heavily during a cut (slight deficit only)
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