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    if you want a 200mg caffeine medium range pre that still gives sustained stamina, check out Slim's very own artificial sweetener/dye-free Pre-Workout

    True Grit PRE is pretty good too, as for Mesomorph - yet to try it but heard good things op.
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    I REALLY want to try mesomorph, no DMAA for us in the military though
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    Originally Posted by DamonX View Post
    Many new products have been released since:


    DMAA:
    APS Mesomorph
    Gaspari Nutrition Superpump 250

    DMHA:
    MAN Sports GameDay (300mg caffeine + DMHA + pump ingredients)
    Kraken

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    Controlled Labs White Flood
    MAN Sports Peptest Bulk (450mg caffeine + 5-6 additional stimulants + 500mg agmatine)
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    Peptest Bulk, I've never heard of this. I need to look it up.
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    I have been using Redcon1 Total War very good pre!!
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    Originally Posted by TommyTuffGuy View Post
    Peptest Bulk, I've never heard of this. I need to look it up.
    it is very very good
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    Originally Posted by lowroller21212 View Post
    True Grit PRE is pretty good too, as for Mesomorph - yet to try it but heard good things op.
    Yass thank you for the mention.

    If you do end up trying Mesomorph, try to use it sparingly for heavy sessions (~3x per week)
    Ran 2 tubs of it and quickly built tolerance when taking it 4-5 times a week.. cut back a wee bit to 3x and all was fine~
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    100mg of caffeine
    5g of creatine
    4g of beta-alanine
    4g of citrulline-malate

    or..









    I prefer the latter.
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    Originally Posted by koweanguy View Post
    If you do end up trying Mesomorph, try to use it sparingly for heavy sessions (~3x per week)
    Ran 2 tubs of it and quickly built tolerance when taking it 4-5 times a week.. cut back a wee bit to 3x and all was fine~
    Agree 100%, you will be tempted to use it daily to experience the greatness, but using it sparingly really is the best way. I built up tolerance to it VERY quickly so I only use it for upper body sessions and lay off it during cardio and leg day.
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    Originally Posted by SkyFlight23 View Post
    100mg of caffeine
    5g of creatine
    4g of beta-alanine
    4g of citrulline-malate

    or..









    I prefer the latter.
    Meh, the latter would be appropriate for most folks I believe..
    But you are dealing with forum folks who take more stims than mere muggles
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    dmaa?
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    fill in the new guy on what these mean.

    And I see mention of a lot of caffeine....300mg !!!
    I don't drink coffee or much soda so I'm not big on caffeine.
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