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    [ I'm also a huge fan of "just git' er done" cutting diets but man that is a LOT of weight to lose in that short a time.
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    If this was a newbie posting this the response would be, "you have an unhealthy relationship with food and showing signs of an eating disorder". The thread would have been closed down with the "we do not support this sort of drastic weight loss" message.

    Can't understand the support being posted, went from skin and bone to POW physique
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    Originally Posted by DanLincoln View Post
    If this was a newbie posting this the response would be, "you have an unhealthy relationship with food and showing signs of an eating disorder". The thread would have been closed down with the "we do not support this sort of drastic weight loss" message.

    Can't understand the support being posted, went from skin and bone to POW physique
    For the record, my post in this thread shouldn't be taken as support of OP's choice. I'm firmly in the "he looked better before" camp. Like you said, were he a newbie asking "should I do this" my advice would have been "absolutely not."

    In this case, what's done is done, and I only pointed out there is a large difference in someone who (given his demonstratable knowledge and posting history) undertakes a short term, carefully thought out PSMF program (despite my personal feelings toward such) and newbies and posters in other threads asking and/or supporting long-term VLCD crash diets.

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    Makes matters worse when OP now wants to gain at a pound per week, which will induce fat gains. Not that it's a bad thing in this specific case, but is so when it was the very thing he was trying to get rid of in the first place with this crash diet.

    This is bad on so many levels.

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    Originally Posted by juggernaut74ia View Post
    For the record, my post in this thread shouldn't be taken as support of OP's choice. I'm firmly in the "he looked better before" camp. Like you said, were he a newbie asking "should I do this" my advice would have been "absolutely not."

    In this case, what's done is done, and I only pointed out there is a large difference in someone who (given his demonstratable knowledge and posting history) undertakes a short term, carefully thought out PSMF program (despite my personal feelings toward such) and newbies and posters in other threads asking and/or supporting long-term VLCD crash diets.
    I'm serious when I say this juggernaut... I'm glad you made this post. This thread has bothered me and I personally took your post yesterday as an endorsement. Thanks for the clarification.

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    Originally Posted by DanLincoln View Post
    If this was a newbie posting this the response would be, "you have an unhealthy relationship with food and showing signs of an eating disorder". The thread would have been closed down with the "we do not support this sort of drastic weight loss" message.

    Can't understand the support being posted, went from skin and bone to POW physique
    Yeah, I think a lot of people missed the part in the OP where he did this because he was feeling fat.

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    OP, I know you post some good stuff in the forum, but I gotta ask... wtf?

    You chose to lose 30lb in two weeks eating about 1000 calories per day... knowing you'd feel like garbage, rather than just reducing your intake to a moderate level?

    It's not like you're competing in anything weight-dependent.... I mean isn't this the equivalent of someone with a 2500 TDEE eating like... nothing? for two weeks? Cept maybe trace fats and protein?

    I don't understand how this is preferable... hell I shudder to imagine how low your blood sugar got if you continued to exercise.
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    Please tell me this is a troll thread?

    Why do we condone disordered behavior and enable body dysmporphia? Gotta love the fitness community...

    Yikes.

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    Not even a week at maintenance and at 132 again already, so likely going to be ~135ish when fully glycogen/water weighted up; so really 20 pounds in 2 weeks; yes extreme but again, I prefer the faster results.
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    Originally Posted by gbullock32 View Post
    Not even a week at maintenance and at 132 again already, so likely going to be ~135ish when fully glycogen/water weighted up; so really 20 pounds in 2 weeks; yes extreme but again, I prefer the faster results.
    Total honest question here.

    Do you think your mentality and mindset towards your body image and the likes is healthy?
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    Originally Posted by sonnydfrizzy View Post
    Total honest question here.

    Do you think your mentality and mindset towards your body image and the likes is healthy?
    Did I ever say it was?
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    Originally Posted by gbullock32 View Post
    Not even a week at maintenance and at 132 again already, so likely going to be ~135ish when fully glycogen/water weighted up; so really 20 pounds in 2 weeks; yes extreme but again, I prefer the faster results.
    Which makes you no different from anyone else who would rather see the faster results, but as your signature says, "Short cuts to success are often paved with lies."

    It's kind of sad that you're not owning up to anything here or addressing any of the issues raised in this thread.

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    Originally Posted by gbullock32 View Post
    Did I ever say it was?
    I guess do what you want my man. Just saying something because I have dabbled in the eating disorder/exercise obsession/body dysmporphia realm and it overcame my life and happiness.
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    Originally Posted by kals87 View Post
    Which makes you no different from anyone else who would rather see the faster results, but as your signature says, "Short cuts to success are often paved with lies."

    It's kind of sad that you're not owning up to anything here or addressing any of the issues raised in this thread.
    Originally Posted by sonnydfrizzy View Post
    I guess do what you want my man. Just saying something because I have dabbled in the eating disorder/exercise obsession/body dysmporphia realm and it overcame my life and happiness.


    I know what I am doing, whether or not it is right... well that is pretty arguably not. But in the end I do know the possible ramifications, just curious to ride life out in the manner I choose. Right now, goal is to just lift and eat and see where that takes me.
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    Originally Posted by gbullock32 View Post
    I know what I am doing, whether or not it is right... well that is pretty arguably not. But in the end I do know the possible ramifications, just curious to ride life out in the manner I choose. Right now, goal is to just lift and eat and see where that takes me.
    To each their own... Just know you are the same guy making threads about young adults/teens perpetually cutting and being overly "lean" being so bad for your health and hormones....
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    Originally Posted by gbullock32 View Post
    Not even a week at maintenance and at 132 again already, so likely going to be ~135ish when fully glycogen/water weighted up; so really 20 pounds in 2 weeks; yes extreme but again, I prefer the faster results.
    Wtf, you generated a ~70,000 cal deficit (5k per day) in the space of 2 weeks, how is that even possible?

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    Originally Posted by Groce View Post
    Wtf, you generated a ~70,000 cal deficit (5k per day) in the space of 2 weeks, how is that even possible?
    TDEE is ~4200 per day, very active at work, exercising, and busy outside of work; so was something like 3-3.2k per day deficit.
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    You know, I need to gain about 30 pounds... i think I'll eat 12000 calories per day, even if i feel horrible, every day for 3 weeks.

    I know it's not healthy but, hey... YOLO, right? I know it's bad, so that's enough....

    BRB making a thread about it to get 'support' and feedback about my (knowingly) poor choices.

    Seriously, why would you advertise this if not to either (1) get attention/validation or (2) influence others? Either one seems in very bad taste.
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    Originally Posted by AdamWW View Post
    You know, I need to gain about 30 pounds... i think I'll eat 12000 calories per day, even if i feel horrible, every day for 3 weeks.

    I know it's not healthy but, hey... YOLO, right? I know it's bad, so that's enough....

    BRB making a thread about it to get 'support' and feedback about my (knowingly) poor choices.

    Seriously, why would you advertise this if not to either (1) get attention/validation or (2) influence others? Either one seems in very bad taste.
    Personal experiment, sharing results; I do not seek validation or approval.
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    Kids are going to see this and want to mimic the hypocrit OP.
    And the vicious obsession of being lean with no sight of muscularity grows ever so more popular amongst our progeny.

    Where are the ban-happy mods when the forum community needs them the most?

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    Not sure if the mod that closed this let you know why, but I can't help but say this anyway for you and anyone reading.

    You've been around this forum way too long to be making these kinds of posts. You know it doesn't fly man. I can't even begin to adequately endorse the people that are telling you to seek help. They have your best interest in mind.

    You can do whatever you like, but please don't ever post this stuff again.

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