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    Russia and Iran warn US against further attacks agaisnt Syria.

    "A joint command center made up of the forces of Russia, Iran and militias supporting Syrian President Bashar al-Assad on Sunday said the U.S. strike on a Syrian air base on Friday crossed "red lines" and it would respond to any new aggression and increase its support for its ally."

    "What America waged in an aggression on Syria is a crossing of red lines. From now on we will respond with force to any aggressor or any breach of red lines from whoever it is and America knows our ability to respond well,"

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-04-1...-lines/8429484
    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mi...-idUSKBN17B0K7

    So now we wait. Will trump strike again hoping to call a potential bluff, or will he refrain from further attacks which will make him look weak?
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    I'm hoping this escalates into a full on war. I'm actually glad the neocons are taking over. Russia, however, is useless. The end goal needs to be obliterate China while we still have global military dominance. In less than 10 years from now, they are predicted to be about equivalent to us, and then beyond that they will surpass us. We can't let that happen, but it probably will.
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    Possible fake news story. I'd be interested to read an official statement by either of the two countries.


    Fake news story in mainstream AND alt-media slanders Russia and Iran - http://theduran.com/exclusive-fake-n...ssia-and-iran/
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    Originally Posted by GaloisTheory View Post
    I'm hoping this escalates into a full on war. I'm actually glad the neocons are taking over. Russia, however, is useless. The end goal needs to be obliterate China while we still have global military dominance. In less than 10 years from now, they are predicted to be about equivalent to us, and then beyond that they will surpass us. We can't let that happen, but it probably will.
    you say that as if we'll easily win this or that Russia will be a "pushover"

    even if we were to get the better of Russia they'd never admit defeat they'd Use Dead Hand before then.
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    what the sides for WWWIII look like right now


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    Originally Posted by GaloisTheory View Post
    I'm hoping this escalates into a full on war. I'm actually glad the neocons are taking over. Russia, however, is useless. The end goal needs to be obliterate China while we still have global military dominance. In less than 10 years from now, they are predicted to be about equivalent to us, and then beyond that they will surpass us. We can't let that happen, but it probably will.
    Phaggot keyboard war generals at it again.


    Yeah we totally need to escalate a full on war with Russia....
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    Originally Posted by KhumatMibra View Post
    Phaggot keyboard war generals at it again.


    Yeah we totally need to escalate a full on war with Russia....
    Russia has been stepping on our toes for far too long. The end game should be to establish complete US hegemony over the ME. To do that, we're going to have to first push Russia out. That'll inevitably lead to war, but war times can be good times. It's not necessarily a bad thing.
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    Originally Posted by GaloisTheory View Post
    I'm hoping this escalates into a full on war. I'm actually glad the neocons are taking over. Russia, however, is useless. The end goal needs to be obliterate China while we still have global military dominance. In less than 10 years from now, they are predicted to be about equivalent to us, and then beyond that they will surpass us. We can't let that happen, but it probably will.
    lol less than 10 years my ass
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    Originally Posted by GaloisTheory View Post
    Russia has been stepping on our toes for far too long. The end game should be to establish complete US hegemony over the ME. To do that, we're going to have to first push Russia out. That'll inevitably lead to war, but war times can be good times. It's not necessarily a bad thing.

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    lol less than 10 years my ass
    check out former Principal Deputy Director of National Intelligence David Gomper's analysis if you want more info about a war with China might look like

    http://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand...AND_RR1140.pdf
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    He better refrain, the 'fear of looking weak' is ridiculous as everyone knows the potential hell that the u.s. could unleash on a finger snap, there s no need for this dumb armwrestle
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    Originally Posted by GaloisTheory View Post
    Russia has been stepping on our toes for far too long. The end game should be to establish complete US hegemony over the ME. To do that, we're going to have to first push Russia out. That'll inevitably lead to war, but war times can be good times. It's not necessarily a bad thing.
    I don't know exactly what should be done, but Russia has been getting away with way too much starting with Georgia during the Bush administration, and they got even more bold during the Obama administration. Yes, Neocons are war mongering *ssholes, but that doesn't mean they are always wrong

    as far as being militarily equivalent to the US in ten years, no way. The world put together barely makes a dent in our Naval Fleet.
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    Originally Posted by sawoobley View Post
    Possible fake news story.
    Its Sunday and this news is just dropping. Most news sites are slow or do not update at all on weekends.

    If it makes you feel better Drudge has just updated their front page..
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    what the sides for WWWIII look like right now


    Lol just lol at the axis powers this time around, would be a slaughter until the nukes started flying then we'd all lose


    That said I think China's response was more just like



    then an outright denouncement
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    Originally Posted by dabbmw2002 View Post
    I don't know exactly what should be done, but Russia has been getting away with way too much starting with Georgia during the Bush administration, and they got even more bold during the Obama administration. Yes, Neocons are war mongering *ssholes, but that doesn't mean they are always wrong

    as far as being militarily equivalent to the US in ten years, no way. The world put together barely makes a dent in our Naval Fleet.
    Russia is the crazy guy with face tattoos at the bar. Youre not intimidated by him because of his tattoos youre wary of him because someone that has face tattoos has nothing to lose....That is Russia. Theyre unpredictable and are willing to do the unthinkable (use nukes).
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    Originally Posted by dabbmw2002 View Post

    as far as being militarily equivalent to the US in ten years, no way. The world put together barely makes a dent in our Naval Fleet.
    not true

    but to be clear, equivalence in that our advantage will narrow greatly. There are many factors that contribute to that. For instance, we will maintain complete aerial dominance for the foreseeable future; however, other factors will start to equalize, geographical and other strategical considerations included, that will begin to level the playing field a bit.
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    Originally Posted by Maestro View Post
    Russia is the crazy guy with face tattoos at the bar. Youre not intimidated by him because of his tattoos youre wary of him because someone that has face tattoos has nothing to lose....That is Russia. Theyre unpredictable and are willing to do the unthinkable (use nukes).
    I don't think the ruling class of any country has "nothing to lose". I do think they are wiling to go further due to the structure of their political leadership. Putin can pretty much do what he wants, while democratic countries like ours spend as much time fighting each other as we do the enemy.

    one thing that does concern me though is their efforts to build bomb shelters, not only for VIP's but for the general citizenry as well. As a country they are much more prepared than we are to weather out an attack.
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    Originally Posted by dabbmw2002 View Post
    I don't think the ruling class of any country has "nothing to lose". I do think they are wiling to go further due to the structure of their political leadership. Putin can pretty much do what he wants, while democratic countries like ours spend as much time fighting each other as we do the enemy.

    one thing that does concern me though is their efforts to build bomb shelters, not only for VIP's but for the general citizenry as well. As a country they are much more prepared than we are to whether out an attack.
    Yeah 'murica definitely suffers from a wicked case of "it'll never happen to us".
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    For what it's worth, if live in a deep shelter in the east side of Oregon, you might survive the fallout.

    Otherwise, you're pretty screwed.
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    Its Sunday and this news is just dropping. Most news sites are slow or do not update at all on weekends.

    If it makes you feel better Drudge has just updated their front page..
    Still possibly fake news. Everyone is using the same source and assuming it is correct. Even people living in Russia have been unable to confirm the story and haven't heard anything from the Kremlin.

    Russia Insider - Reuters, Others, Report Fake Iran/Russia Statement on Syria — 'Russia Insider' Blindly Follows

    http://russia-insider.com/en/breakin...-again/ri19518
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    Originally Posted by GaloisTheory View Post
    I'm hoping this escalates into a full on war. I'm actually glad the neocons are taking over. Russia, however, is useless. The end goal needs to be obliterate China while we still have global military dominance. In less than 10 years from now, they are predicted to be about equivalent to us, and then beyond that they will surpass us. We can't let that happen, but it probably will.
    A better method would be to stop letting liberals ruin the economy.
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    Originally Posted by iifymbro View Post
    Yeah 'murica definitely suffers from a wicked case of "it'll never happen to us".
    We are in a goldilocks zone of protection from the majority of the world that is hostile against us. Worst case scenario is russia comes into the us from the Bering Strait. I have full confidence that the Alaskans will "Red Dawn" the chit out of them.
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    Originally Posted by GaloisTheory View Post
    not true

    but to be clear, equivalence in that our advantage will narrow greatly. There are many factors that contribute to that. For instance, we will maintain complete aerial dominance for the foreseeable future; however, other factors will start to equalize, geographical and other strategical considerations included, that will begin to level the playing field a bit.
    Very, very true.

    China has one aircraft carrier, one bro, uno aircraft carriero.

    The US has 13. 12 in service, and one in reserve.

    It takes 10-12 years on average to build an aircraft carrier, so you do the math, and figure out China doesn't have the same ability to deploy forces globally that the US does, and won't for a decade +.
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    No engineer but how hard would it be for China to re tool its massive manufacturing base from making chit into mass producing weapons.

    They are the biggest most efficient chit manufacturer.

    The west has in comparison lost most of its manufacturing ability....to China.
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    Originally Posted by vsukicker View Post
    lol less than 10 years my ass






    No worries, south americans will maintain and even make better tech/military then what usa current has.
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    Originally Posted by Maestro View Post
    We are in a goldilocks zone of protection from the majority of the world that is hostile against us. Worst case scenario is russia comes into the us from the Bering Strait. I have full confidence that the Alaskans will "Red Dawn" the chit out of them.
    I was thinking more about ICBMs tipped with 100 megaton hydrogen bombs raining down on the U.S, like hundreds of them pounding every major city.
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    Originally Posted by Triggernought View Post
    No engineer but how hard would it be for China to re tool its massive manufacturing base from making chit into mass producing weapons.

    They are the biggest most efficient chit manufacturer.

    The west has in comparison lost most of its manufacturing ability....to China.
    Key word "chit" manufacturer.

    They literally rely on cloning and espionage to steal US military technology. Look up Huawei Technology a Chinese firm that just happens to be located near every major US military base, and command and control cities.

    At least the Russians know how to build aircraft.
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    He better refrain, the 'fear of looking weak' is ridiculous as everyone knows the potential hell that the u.s. could unleash on a finger snap, there s no need for this dumb armwrestle
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