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    Originally Posted by RocknRollMuscle View Post
    you all do know that IF > * right?

    youtube dr fung fasting

    I use IF and it BLOOOWWWWSS every other diet out of the water. Not even close. And so freakin easy.

    #insulin

    IF doesn't do **** unless you adjust calories/macros. I do it because I have become accustomed to training fasted. That's about it.
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    That's because IF is not a diet. Rather, a feeding schedule that can assist and support a well structured diet.
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    Nah, I can't. I know that I can survive on calories that low, but I can barely get out of bed on such a severe deficit, much less work, think, or do what I need to do each day.
    The deficit is in your will power. You'd be surprised what your body can do when put to the test.
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    Originally Posted by KRANE View Post
    That's because IF is not a diet. Rather, a feeding schedule that can assist and support a well structured diet.The deficit is in your will power. You'd be surprised what your body can do when put to the test.

    I can't follow a diet that leaves me barely able to walk and remember my own name.
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    How does your libido gets affected with this? Want to try this so bad but at the same time i dont want to cuck myself with my GF nomsayin?
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    Originally Posted by RonaldMcflurry View Post
    I can't follow a diet that leaves me barely able to walk and remember my own name.
    IF gives you TONS of energy.

    The eat less move more method does NOT work. If it did, everyone in america would have a six pack.

    Funny those who put down IF are those who have never done it. Cut your calories? Guess what buddy? Your body in kind burns less calories. Your energy levels drop. You wind up losing nothing or very slow fat loss.

    Insulin is what's important - not calories.

    dr. fung fasting / eat stop eat brad pilon on youtube.

    watch and learn. or stay fat. up to you.
    Weight Loss: Go carnivore or keto combined with 16/8 IF. It'll create easy calorie deficit. Meat is good and heals, stop being lied to.

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    I don't know if I'd say "tons" of energy, but I can make it through my workout (and still lift longer and more than most) after a day of fasting just fine.

    In any event, I think he's referring to his mental state? Which does take a beating at first but settles down after about 5 days or so.

    This is to be expected as you body switches over to burning complex fat molecules instead of easy to breakdown carbs. Once you adjust, you should feel normal again.
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    How does your libido gets affected with this? Want to try this so bad but at the same time i dont want to cuck myself with my GF nomsayin?
    What libido? But that's a good thing, it will keep you out of trouble. As for homegirl, at least she will be able to say you look good.
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    Originally Posted by RocknRollMuscle View Post
    IF gives you TONS of energy.

    The eat less move more method does NOT work. If it did, everyone in america would have a six pack.

    Funny those who put down IF are those who have never done it. Cut your calories? Guess what buddy? Your body in kind burns less calories. Your energy levels drop. You wind up losing nothing or very slow fat loss.

    Insulin is what's important - not calories.

    dr. fung fasting / eat stop eat brad pilon on youtube.

    watch and learn. or stay fat. up to you.
    I have been doing IF for a couple of years. I still have to keep track of what I eat. You are probably trolling and I am wasting my time. LoL
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    is diet soda saving anyone else's life?
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    Originally Posted by RonaldMcflurry View Post
    And yet it works for tons of people. I personally have learned that I can't function throughout the day on less than 1700 calories.
    Everyone should know their own body whose been in the game for a while. Thats crazy that you can't go under 1,700. I've had 500 like Krane or even less for days and it has no effect on my mental capacity.


    Originally Posted by solidus2k3 View Post
    is diet soda saving anyone else's life?
    Yeah, I didn't even drink coke before this diet, but I started drinking diet coke as it is a thing to look forward to at the end of every evening


    Originally Posted by Gypsyaesthetics View Post
    Going to start this either Sunday or Monday. Anyone maybe give me a idea on my body fat ? I really don’t have a clue where I’m at but I’m 185 5’10 arms are 17.5 and I have a 30 inch waist. I’m guessing 15-18%. [img] https://m.imgur.com/gallery/Zdags [\img] [img] https://m.imgur.com/gallery/iP2Qb [\img]
    Post some better pics, these are terrible for guessing your bodyfat.
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    Originally Posted by Ken-O View Post
    How does your libido gets affected with this? Want to try this so bad but at the same time i dont want to cuck myself with my GF nomsayin?
    Slightly less horny aka ****ing and fapping to everything but still fapped a lot nonetheless.

    Libido will be fine as long as fats is around ~20g as Lyle's RFL recommends
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    Tempted to throw in the hat on this diet.

    Constipation and bloating is hitting me pretty hard. If it continues I'll have to call it a wrap.

    I never would have guessed that would cause me to quit. I thought for sure low energy would be the worst part but it's been basically unnoticeable to be honest.

    Wish me luck bros
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    Originally Posted by Brozef View Post
    Tempted to throw in the hat on this diet.

    Constipation and bloating is hitting me pretty hard. If it continues I'll have to call it a wrap.

    I never would have guessed that would cause me to quit. I thought for sure low energy would be the worst part but it's been basically unnoticeable to be honest.

    Wish me luck bros
    Try out plant based protein. I bought it as a last resort to add into my diet. There's little fats, very minuscule amounts of carbs and pretty high protein. I was able to chit after starting the plant-based protein. Not on PSMF anymore but just speaking from my prior run experience. I can poop normally now so look forward to that ;-D
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    Originally Posted by Brozef View Post
    Tempted to throw in the hat on this diet.

    Constipation and bloating is hitting me pretty hard. If it continues I'll have to call it a wrap.

    I never would have guessed that would cause me to quit. I thought for sure low energy would be the worst part but it's been basically unnoticeable to be honest.

    Wish me luck bros
    Have you tried adding psyllium husk?

    If I ever get constipated, I take 2 and down a load of water, really gets my bowels moving. You can take it 2, 3 times a day and pick them from a local store or amazon.
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    Originally Posted by cosm0 View Post
    Have you tried adding psyllium husk?

    If I ever get constipated, I take 2 and down a load of water, really gets my bowels moving. You can take it 2, 3 times a day and pick them from a local store or amazon.
    That's exactly what I've been using. I have it in powder form and I hydrate it first and eat is as a gel, that way it doesn't pull moisture during digestion.

    I'll give the fiber a couple more days but it hasn't helped much and is making me into a fart macine.
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    Originally Posted by Brozef View Post
    Tempted to throw in the hat on this diet.

    Constipation and bloating is hitting me pretty hard. If it continues I'll have to call it a wrap.

    I never would have guessed that would cause me to quit. I thought for sure low energy would be the worst part but it's been basically unnoticeable to be honest.

    Wish me luck bros
    That's natural, and no reason to quit. Everybody goes through that. Its just your body's transitional phase. Wait...constipation AND bloating?
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    Originally Posted by Brozef View Post
    That's exactly what I've been using. I have it in powder form and I hydrate it first and eat is as a gel, that way it doesn't pull moisture during digestion.

    I'll give the fiber a couple more days but it hasn't helped much and is making me into a fart macine.
    Hmm? Youre cat 2 arent you? I would carefully choose my free meal, so that it contains a very good source of fibre, thats sure to get your bowels going. And your refeed day, good selection of foods would help as well.

    https://www.webmd.com/diet/features/...urces-of-fiber

    For your free meal just choose something from here, and make your macros for the food 60-80g of carbs. I like having 2 wholehweat bagels for my free meal, I know Lyle often had bagels for his free meal as well and it always helps out my bowels. Other than that if youre still struggling guess theres not much you can do.
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    First, broc and second, cauliflower. These are my two main fibrous staples in that order. After that, I throw in some spinach.

    Of course digestive systems differ but it worked great for me. Just don't expect an instantaneous fix. These things take time.
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    Alright, starting tomorrow it's gonna be my second run of PSMF.

    I am literally addicted to this diet. It seems like the only way to go when cutting lol. Stay tuned for the before/afters. Hopefully I'll be able to get under 10% this time around.

    Got inspired by all the brahs giving this a try, so I'll suffer with ya'll!
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    Originally Posted by MichaelDuong View Post
    Alright, starting tomorrow it's gonna be my second run of PSMF.

    I am literally addicted to this diet. It seems like the only way to go when cutting lol. Stay tuned for the before/afters. Hopefully I'll be able to get under 10% this time around.
    Back already bro, why you wanna be so low this time of year?

    You mentioned your age before, wouldn't it make sense doing a slow bulk for a few months before going back?
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    Back already bro, why you wanna be so low this time of year?

    You mentioned your age before, wouldn't it make sense doing a slow bulk for a few months before going back?
    This is exactly the point I get to every single time I cut and I always end up spinning my wheels by bulking again. I know for -sure- if I start slow bulking now I'll end up a fat lard like I was back when I was bulking a few months ago (that was a 5ish month long dreamerbulk already)

    I've got the muscle mass, so I'm not the skinnyfat kids who're cutting to get abs. I got two junior mens physique shows in March/April and need to get shredded for the first time in my life early so I can maintain it and go compete stress-free.
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    Originally Posted by MichaelDuong View Post
    This is exactly the point I get to every single time I cut and I always end up spinning my wheels by bulking again. I know for -sure- if I start slow bulking now I'll end up a fat lard like I was back when I was bulking a few months ago (that was a 5ish month long dreamerbulk already)

    I've got the muscle mass, so I'm not the skinnyfat kids who're cutting to get abs. I got two junior mens physique shows in March/April and need to get shredded for the first time in my life early so I can maintain it and go compete stress-free.
    I know alot of the nutriton experts over in other sections of the forum, would be very against you doing PSMF (at your age), not to mention twice in short a short time span AND at low bodyfat but do what you gotta do bro.

    edit: on spread with you, keep us updated on your progress again.
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    Originally Posted by MichaelDuong View Post
    Alright, starting tomorrow it's gonna be my second run of PSMF.

    I am literally addicted to this diet. It seems like the only way to go when cutting lol. Stay tuned for the before/afters. Hopefully I'll be able to get under 10% this time around.

    Got inspired by all the brahs giving this a try, so I'll suffer with ya'll!
    Let not get too ahead of ourselves. Getting down to single digits naturally (with some hint of musculature) is the toughest challenge in bb. I'm working on it too, even as we speak.

    One more thing, last one to single digit % fat is a rotten egg.
    Originally Posted by cosm0 View Post
    I know alot of the nutriton experts over in other sections of the forum, would be very against you doing PSMF (at your age), not to mention twice in short a short time span AND at low bodyfat but do what you gotta do bro.

    edit: on spread with you, keep us updated on your progress again.
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    Originally Posted by KRANE View Post
    Let not get too ahead of ourselves. Getting down to single digits naturally (with some hint of musculature) is the toughest challenge in bb. I'm working on it too, even as we speak.

    One more thing, last one to single digit % fat is a rotten egg.Let the man do his thing. He dare challenge me and now I must break him.



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    Originally Posted by cosm0 View Post
    Hmm? Youre cat 2 arent you? I would carefully choose my free meal, so that it contains a very good source of fibre, thats sure to get your bowels going. And your refeed day, good selection of foods would help as well.

    https://www.webmd.com/diet/features/...urces-of-fiber

    For your free meal just choose something from here, and make your macros for the food 60-80g of carbs. I like having 2 wholehweat bagels for my free meal, I know Lyle often had bagels for his free meal as well and it always helps out my bowels. Other than that if youre still struggling guess theres not much you can do.
    I doubt a lack of fiber is the issue, or hydration. I have tricky bowels as it is and any time I cut I become irregular until I resume a more normal diet.

    Thanks for the tips. I will try the refeed method.

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    First, broc and second, cauliflower. These are my two main fibrous staples in that order. After that, I throw in some spinach.

    Of course digestive systems differ but it worked great for me. Just don't expect an instantaneous fix. These things take time.
    I eat loads of cruciferous vegetables. I'm starting to think I need to switch to different veggies.

    This diet works so well im going to try to stick it out. Thanks again for you help krane!
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    Originally Posted by Brozef View Post
    I doubt a lack of fiber is the issue, or hydration. I have tricky bowels as it is and any time I cut I become irregular until I resume a more normal diet.

    Thanks for the tips. I will try the refeed method.



    I eat loads of cruciferous vegetables. I'm starting to think I need to switch to different veggies.

    This diet works so well im going to try to stick it out. Thanks again for you help krane!

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    Originally Posted by KRANE View Post
    Let not get too ahead of ourselves. Getting down to single digits naturally (with some hint of musculature) is the toughest challenge in bb. I'm working on it too, even as we speak.

    One more thing, last one to single digit % fat is a rotten egg.Let the man do his thing. He dare challenge me and now I must break him.



    jk.

    Good luck on diet.
    You too man, let's do this!

    Honestly, as long as I can get down to a very lean base it'll give me much more time to lean bulk correctly the next time around. I can already feel the gains waiting for me around the block ;-D
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    Originally Posted by MichaelDuong View Post
    You too man, let's do this!

    Honestly, as long as I can get down to a very lean base it'll give me much more time to lean bulk correctly the next time around. I can already feel the gains waiting for me around the block ;-D

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    IF gives you TONS of energy.

    The eat less move more method does NOT work. If it did, everyone in america would have a six pack.

    Funny those who put down IF are those who have never done it. Cut your calories? Guess what buddy? Your body in kind burns less calories. Your energy levels drop. You wind up losing nothing or very slow fat loss.

    Insulin is what's important - not calories.

    dr. fung fasting / eat stop eat brad pilon on youtube.

    watch and learn. or stay fat. up to you.
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    Originally Posted by cosm0 View Post
    Everyone should know their own body whose been in the game for a while. Thats crazy that you can't go under 1,700. I've had 500 like Krane or even less for days and it has no effect on my mental capacity.




    Maybe if I stuck to the plan and only worked out twice a week, I could do it. I lift 6 days a week and run at least a mile every day. I'm actually scared to lower the workout volume. Do you think that I would have better results with less exercise and PSMF?
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