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    Day 8 weighed 179. I droppped a little, I just want to hit maybe 176 or 175 by sat morning. Leg day yesterday felt great, no drop in strength just a drop in endurance.
    It was the third day lifting, I should consider it 4 cause Saturday's furniture hauling. By the end of Friday I will have lifted 5-6 times.
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    Originally Posted by Pungiish View Post
    It's better to workout afternoon/in the evening if i do if right? Sometimes i like going to the gym early but ik it's not really optimal
    It's best to workout first thing in the morning. That's when your body is most primed to get 100% of the optimal fat burning mechanism and bio-utilization of nutrients post-workout.
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    Originally Posted by TugOfPeace View Post
    I know in the book they have a guideline.. but personally I do PSMF on 800ish calories, maintain my bodyweight at 2000. I think the fact that people "reverse diet" from an 11 day diet is hilarious. Just have a refeed with mostly whole foods (minimal sugar) and lowish fat. I had 3500 for two days after 5 days of psmf and all that happened was a regaining of glycogen. Measurements around the waist were still low.



    As a guy living in a crowded city, 4AM workouts are the GOAT. the temperature is cool, no humidity, and no lines to wait for stuff. less idiots around too because they don't have the motivation to lift that early
    wow thats crazy because i think i maintain my weight at like 2000-2200 calories, i got a rmr and it said my true rmr was about 1880 calories or something.

    but yea i definitely agree with everyone saying working out first thing in the morning is best, i get into the gym at about 2:45 am and its beautiful, dont have to deal with bullchit or waiting for machines or anything. plus you definitely hit the weights harder since you just woke and your fully rested/ testosterone is highest its gonna be that day.
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    Day 1 for me. I used the psmf calculater and for my weight and measurement its recommending 267g of protonz. That seems excessive for me. Im thinking of just hitting 1 to 1.2 grams of protein per lb of weight. This way my calories are around 900 instead of 1350. What do you guys think?
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    Originally Posted by blueb7 View Post
    Day 1 for me. I used the psmf calculater and for my weight and measurement its recommending 267g of protonz. That seems excessive for me. Im thinking of just hitting 1 to 1.2 grams of protein per lb of weight. This way my calories are around 900 instead of 1350. What do you guys think?
    For you I think that would be good protein amount. It is possible to go to high on protein during a deficit, you don't want to start oxidizing it. During a bulk, I don't anyone would be consuming a protein to carb ratio that would enable protein oxidation.
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    Originally Posted by blueb7 View Post
    Day 1 for me. I used the psmf calculater and for my weight and measurement its recommending 267g of protonz. That seems excessive for me. Im thinking of just hitting 1 to 1.2 grams of protein per lb of weight. This way my calories are around 900 instead of 1350. What do you guys think?
    Sounds good to me. Should be able to get rid of a little more weight with the lower calories per day.
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    Would not recommend this diet if you:

    1. are depressed
    2. have poor discipline
    3. have a very mundane life
    4. are sedentary
    5. dont socialize
    6. are chasing PRs or trying to be strongman/powerlifter (obvs)
    7. can't plan your meals consistently

    Seriously, I did this a couple years ago when 1-5 were true. Felt like I wanted to shoot myself. As soon as I got back on a maintenance + a slight deficit I felt like a god.

    I would only do this again if I made money off my physique and fuked up my dieting, like for a photo shoot.
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    Originally Posted by KRANE View Post
    It's best to workout first thing in the morning. That's when your body is most primed to get 100% of the optimal fat burning mechanism and bio-utilization of nutrients post-workout.
    Whaat. Thought that was bro science..
    So it's ok to not eat till like 5-7 pm after training at 6am?
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    Originally Posted by Pungiish View Post
    Whaat. Thought that was bro science..
    So it's ok to not eat till like 5-7 pm after training at 6am?
    It is. No difference than training fasted at any time of the day,
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    Originally Posted by KRANE View Post
    I think if you keep talking about food you're going to make things significantly harder. People typically eat when they see (have access to) food, not because they actually need it. Recall the old adage: out of sight, out of mind. Occupy your brain with other daily challenges, otherwise, your fixation on food will drive you insane.
    This. Put me in a room with a breakfast buffet (esp. post workout), and I'm in serious trouble.
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    Originally Posted by TugOfPeace View Post
    I know in the book they have a guideline.. but personally I do PSMF on 800ish calories, maintain my bodyweight at 2000. I think the fact that people "reverse diet" from an 11 day diet is hilarious. Just have a refeed with mostly whole foods (minimal sugar) and lowish fat. I had 3500 for two days after 5 days of psmf and all that happened was a regaining of glycogen. Measurements around the waist were .
    That's nuts. I'm currently 172.4 (or was on Friday rather) and have been cutting on 1,900 calories for about 6 weeks now at a very steady rate of 1-1.5lbs a week. My maintenance is around 2,400 calories or somewhere about there. It took me over a year at 3,000+ to gain 25lbs.
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    Originally Posted by CaliSuperSport View Post
    Would not recommend this diet if you:

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    4. are sedentary
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    Seriously, I did this a couple years ago when 1-5 were true. Felt like I wanted to shoot myself. As soon as I got back on a maintenance + a slight deficit I felt like a god.

    I would only do this again if I made money off my physique and fuked up my dieting, like for a photo shoot.
    This cannot be said enough.

    As I've stated before in threads such as these: diet can dramatically affect your mood and disposition. So be aware and do not attempt a radically change in diet unless the conditions around you are favorable.

    Dramatic diets are not for the faint of heart. Even better, having a support system to catch the subtle changes you may not.
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    Whaat. Thought that was bro science..
    So it's ok to not eat till like 5-7 pm after training at 6am?
    If you say so. But I wouldn't recommend anything I haven't tried myself. Do what you think is best for you.
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    Originally Posted by KRANE View Post
    This cannot be said enough.

    As I've stated before in threads such as these: diet can dramatically affect your mood and disposition. So be aware and do not attempt a radically change in diet unless the conditions around you are favorable.

    Dramatic diets are not for the faint of heart. Even better, having a support system to catch the subtle changes you may not.If you say so. But I wouldn't recommend anything I haven't tried myself. Do what you think is best for you.
    I was just asking, 100% read that yes, you burn more fat if you train fasted, but it evens out compared to non fasted training. Like a study mrpb posted on nut section about how drinking a shake pre morning cardio is better than drinking/eating nothing.
    As i said, i was just asking, wasn't trying to imply you are wrong
    In fact, i am going to train in the mornings more frequently now because i like it better.

    Great! The one day I'd need to look good, and I'm not vascular at all. Veins are playing hide and seek -.' gonna lift and hope for them to stay after. Posting new progress pics today with a new haircut which i dont really like
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    Did this for 9 days and I'm more shredded than ever, around the same bf% as the avi of the poster below
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    This. Put me in a room with a breakfast buffet (esp. post workout), and I'm in serious trouble.
    Now how do I properly get out of this without gaining back all the fat?

    I was thinking about adding 1000 kcals daily to get back to around 4000 and then maintain over summer and then switch to lean bulk, thoughts?
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    Originally Posted by Sipsitissi666 View Post
    Did this for 9 days and I'm more shredded than ever, around the same bf% as the avi of the poster below
    Now how do I properly get out of this without gaining back all the fat?

    I was thinking about adding 1000 kcals daily to get back to around 4000 and then maintain over summer and then switch to lean bulk, thoughts?
    How much do you weigh that 4000 is your maintenance?
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    170.2 this morning. Morning workout ensuing. Been stuck around this weight for almost a week now. I'm not sure why I've stalled. Will see how the rest of the week goes and make fridays my actual weigh in day.
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    Feel like i look worse and worse every day with this diet, gonna keep going tho coz lifts didn't go down.
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    Been stuck around this weight for almost a week now. I'm not sure why I've stalled.
    Water weight, but maybe time of day you weighed yourself?
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    Day 3: still feeling pretty good. Breakfast was egg whites, fat free cheese, spinach/arugula and 10z of chicken. Uggggh it's so much food to physically eat! I also had a slight headache all day yesterday which so far has been better today. Did a little searching online and saw it's from low electrolytes. Going to grab some salt and BCAA this morning to see if it resolves it. Do any of you get that headache too?

    Originally Posted by IH8RICE View Post
    170.2 this morning. Morning workout ensuing. Been stuck around this weight for almost a week now. I'm not sure why I've stalled. Will see how the rest of the week goes and make fridays my actual weigh in day.
    I lifted yesterday. I didn't like it. I kept it super short and heavy. Friday's will be my weigh in as well.

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    Warm cup of chicken broth does the trick for the headaches
    I appreciate that advice. I'm at work now but I'll keep that in mind for when I get home!
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    Warm cup of chicken broth does the trick for the headaches
    This. Powerade zero has also been a staple for me when I'm at the gym or outside when it's hot.
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    Thanks guys! I'll pickup some Powerade zero today at lunch time. For the time being I mixed up some BCAA and threw a spoonful of salt into it. Not the tastiest thing in the world but it's bearable and it's improving.
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    been on ~1k cals/day for 8 days.... hold me brehs
    we're all going to make it. So real talk time: do you guys notice a difference in yourself visually daily or what? I woke up this morning and stood up, I could swear that the lower ab fat I have is slightly smaller BUT I'm also not stupid and I'm certain my mind was playing tricks on me by being overly optimistic since I'm only on day 3.
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    we're all going to make it. So real talk time: do you guys notice a difference in yourself visually daily or what? I woke up this morning and stood up, I could swear that the lower ab fat I have is slightly smaller BUT I'm also not stupid and I'm certain my mind was playing tricks on me by being overly optimistic since I'm only on day 3.
    I notice the lower ab fat is also starting to flatten. When I'm at the gym, striations are a lot more prominent in lighting. Tighter shirts that I was embarrassed to wear before fit great now. Shorts and pants I had an extremely hard time wearing are loose now. Makes me disregard the scale 80% of the time since I'm visually seeing results everyday.
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    Originally Posted by Jammer02xd View Post
    we're all going to make it. So real talk time: do you guys notice a difference in yourself visually daily or what? I woke up this morning and stood up, I could swear that the lower ab fat I have is slightly smaller BUT I'm also not stupid and I'm certain my mind was playing tricks on me by being overly optimistic since I'm only on day 3.
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