Any brahs want to hop on PSMF with me? Lets get shredded srs

[KRANE]

for the love of god, i cannot sleep.
Ate my only and last meal of the day at 8pm, so i wouldn't be hungry when going to sleep, then dosed of for half an hour, woke up, and now im fully awake.going to buy sleeping pills tomorrow wtf brahs.

Forget the pills. Just study the logistics of Kelno'reem.

Meanwile, I can't sleep either...and that's with the pills.

A PSMF as described in the book has no extra fat except for Fish oil pills. If you weigh more than 170 lbs, the diet is really nothing but chicken breast,protein shakes, fish oil and broc****. It came out to like 1100-1200 calories for me with the necessary protein and nothing else but fish oil.

I personally lose strength rapidly when cutting carbs, even at a short 1 or 2 set workout, all other things being equal.

My point was, proteins and fats are necessary (macro) nutrients. Carbs are not.

Also, just learn to moderate your strength requirements. Short bursts of energy (explosive) do require carbs but overall strength level should be maintained.

[Wewak]

It's interesting though, biggest question on my mind is whether you can be on a bulk, decide that you have a bit of chub you want to lose, and hop on PSMF for 5-7 days and lose it as a Cat 1. Would that work, or would it be ineffective due to how much glycogen people carry on a bulk?

2 weeks is ideal in that case, brb lose 3 lbs of pure fat in half a month back to lean bulking.

[Wewak]

^^ Just go straight back into it, should be good to go. Water weight should flush out by tomorrow tho.

[Wewak]

^^Youre overthinking it. You should know if you're glycogen is restored. Did your vascularity return? Apart from that, hormones will be affected a bit anyway, but that's why the diet is not meant for 5 week stretches (that's when you should have a recovery week) — especially for a category 1. But don't overexert yourself just to make sure all the guidelines are followed, try learn the premises behind it and you can taylor it accordingly.
If anything tho, continue you're carb up for tomorrow breakfast then continue the diet.

Any other miscers have something else to add/correct? im not an expert but you asked for my thoughts.

[Pungiish]

Yeh I know, but all of who are doing the diet correctly will be in a state of ketosis most of the time. Google says anywhere between 20-50g of carbs daily will keep your body there. The reason this is important is what source your body uses for energy. We want the body to burn ketones instead of glycogen. Have you read the book?

Yeah, but it doesn't really matter

[Pungiish]

Couple questions:

1) Why does the book recommend 11 days straight for category 1, but a refeed for category 2? wouldn't category 1 be at greater risk of muscle loss and hormones getting screwed up? To me it makes sense to go 5 days, cheat meal, then another 5 days as category 1.

2) Is it a good idea to continue since I will still be depleted when starting? I feel like eating 2 days at maintenance then doing another 5 days would be better; a bit of recovery before getting back into it. I also want to see what I look like without being depleted to see if it's worth cutting further. What are your thoughts?

He recommends 11 days straight without cheating because he wants you to get over with it asap and to not keep losing the same weight over and over again and because it gets harder to lose the leaner you are.
Edit: i don't remember when i fell asleep but i remember going to the bathroom to pee at 3am. So i fell asleep after 3 and i woke rn, half past 6.
The weird thing is, that it seems like my bods needs less sleep now. I am drowsy but feel like i got enough sleep.

Oh and i just realized i am getting vivid dreams. I didn't remember them before,but now i can remember 2 dreams from yesterday and 1 from today. I dreamt about refeeding and was disappointed i did it lol

[SpaceC]

Day 2, at 1250 calories. 40g fats(can't do 20 and maintain hardness where it counts , 20g carbs.

Eating lean beef sirloin, pork tenderloin, and egg whites. Protein shakes mixed in there also.
I'm prescribed ********, so it's kind of easy mode on the days I take it. I weighed myself four days ago and I was @ 243 lbs. I weighed myself today and I'm at 237, so my guess is that's my weight at max dehydration and depletion. This will be interesting as I've got a Border Patrol fitness exam soon, and I'd like to drop weight prior to it but do a good amount of cardio conditioning on PSMF. We will see how it goes.

My gf has counted my average daily caloric consumption at something around 4,000 calories, so going to 1250 will be a decent challenge.

Btw, I use an excel file I got on reddit. You guys should use it too if you want.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/pfcjizxtyf...v1.0.xlsx?dl=0

[IH8RICE]

Yeah, but it doesn't really matter

I understand.

[KRANE]

Day 2, at 1250 calories. 40g fats(can't do 20 and maintain hardness where it counts , 20g carbs.

Eating lean beef sirloin, pork tenderloin, and egg whites. Protein shakes mixed in there also.
I'm prescribed ********, so it's kind of easy mode on the days I take it. I weighed myself four days ago and I was @ 243 lbs. I weighed myself today and I'm at 237, so my guess is that's my weight at max dehydration and depletion. This will be interesting as I've got a Border Patrol fitness exam soon, and I'd like to drop weight prior to it but do a good amount of cardio conditioning on PSMF. We will see how it goes.

My gf has counted my average daily caloric consumption at something around 4,000 calories, so going to 1250 will be a decent challenge.

Btw, I use an excel file I got on reddit. You guys should use it too if you want.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/pfcjizxtyf...v1.0.xlsx?dl=0

That's ok, but photos are better. ^^

Remember, "one picture is worth a thousand words."

[SpaceC]

That's ok, but photos are better. ^^

Remember, "one picture is worth a thousand words."

Only if there's success at the end bro, I've let myself go recently and I'm currently struggling to get motivated. We will see what happens.

[KRANE]

Only if there's success at the end bro, I've let myself go recently and I'm currently struggling to get motivated. We will see what happens.

My point exactly -- and the point of the thread. You're not alone.

All the fat on my body settles specifically on my belt line. That's the realty of what happens when I bulk. Now go take the photos, and try and keep the conditions (lighting, pose, etc.) the same.

BTW, love your F-150. What year is that?

[SpaceC]

My point exactly -- and the point of the thread. You're not alone.

All the fat on my body settles specifically on my belt line. That's the realty of what happens when I bulk. Now go take the photos, and try and keep the conditions (lighting, pose, etc.) the same.

BTW, love your F-150. What year is that?

I realize I gotta duplicate the conditions for next time. I really don't want to do this, but I guess pictures will help keep me accountable. I'm not trying to be a spokesperson for PSMF however, and realize that I'm doing it as an experiment, which may not prove fruitful. We will see.

Current is at 243 lb, Old pics at 210.

Current body:
http://oi66.tinypic.com/2mn0w1y.jpg
http://oi66.tinypic.com/undiw.jpg
http://oi68.tinypic.com/zt88ya.jpg

Desired body:
http://oi66.tinypic.com/2cnhahv.jpg
http://oi65.tinypic.com/dfblm8.jpg
http://oi66.tinypic.com/2lna91w.jpg

It's a 2014 F-150 btw.

[IH8RICE]

I know I said I wasn't going to do it but I couldn't help myself. Weighed in at 169.4 this morning. Seems I've been floating right around that weight for the last few days. Thing is, I'm noticeably seeing myself getting leaner. Think imma jump rope today, maybe 1-2000 jumps and call it a day. I feel pretty good today.

[SeymourGains]

Although it wouldnt be a PSMF anymore, if someone really likes lifting 6 days a week couldnt they just add 200 - 400 calories from carbs on top of this and make similar progress?

[Pungiish]

Although it wouldnt be a PSMF anymore, if someone really likes lifting 6 days a week couldnt they just add 200 - 400 calories from carbs on top of this and make similar progress?

Im lifting 6 days a week
Brb just bought 2kg eggwhites and almond milk. 12cal per 100ml

[Arkileon]

k


doing this

day 1 leggo

[SeymourGains]

Im lifting 6 days a week
Brb just bought 2kg eggwhites and almond milk. 12cal per 100ml

Sheeeeeeit i thought part of the reason you were regaining lost strength on a PSMF was low volume and frequency letting you lift harder when you get around to training

[Arkileon]

k


doing this

day 1 leggo

read through the thread

actually gonna stick to intermittent fasting and just lower carbs

[Pungiish]

I know I said I wasn't going to do it but I couldn't help myself. Weighed in at 169.4 this morning. Seems I've been floating right around that weight for the last few days. Thing is, I'm noticeably seeing myself getting leaner. Think imma jump rope today, maybe 1-2000 jumps and call it a day. I feel pretty good today.

I've been hovering around the same weight too, and also got leaner. Didn't drink enough water so i might be retaining it tho

Sheeeeeeit i thought part of the reason you were regaining lost strength on a PSMF was low volume and frequency letting you lift harder when you get around to training

No i am on pplpplr

[Pungiish]

I took some measurements this morning after 4 days of PSMF and one day of refeed (3500 calories).

Turns out I lost nearly 1/2" on my waist/love handles, and a bunch of fat on my upper legs/hips.

This is a pretty big deal because a 1/2" would normally take me about 2 weeks of strict dieting.

So today I'm having a regular day of food (2500 calories) and then starting another short cycle of PSMF on Sunday. I'll go for another 5 solid days then start refeeding Friday, then transition into maintenance.

This diet is pretty legit.




Just need to find out how to make chicken taste good.. have been just chewing it and swallowing it down with water because it's so bland even with seasoning.

Did you also lose your hunger or were you hungry on it?
Make sure you drink enough water. I didnt and i didnt poop/was hovering at the same weight. Now that i drink a lot of water, im having a ****ty time

[katya422]

read through the thread

actually gonna stick to intermittent fasting and just lower carbs

That's what I've been up to this week.

Just need to find out how to make chicken taste good.. have been just chewing it and swallowing it down with water because it's so bland even with seasoning.

For you:

http://forums.lylemcdonald.com/showthread.php?t=33222

[Pungiish]

Well for me I typically have black coffee from about 7AM to 3PM, and drink a decent amount of water during that time period. The hunger is definitely there during the day, but I never cave because I know tht after a few minutes the hunger pangs go away. The worst part for me is that period between 3PM-6PM when i'm commuting home and prepping food.. but once I start eating I'm pretty good.

So basically I only really have terrible hunger between 3-6pm.

Okok. Wanted to ask you, what did you have for your refeed? Just went to the store, trying to decide what would be the most optimal but couldn't and left without buying anything

[iifymbro]

Well for me I typically have black coffee from about 7AM to 3PM, and drink a decent amount of water during that time period. The hunger is definitely there during the day, but I never cave because I know tht after a few minutes the hunger pangs go away. The worst part for me is that period between 3PM-6PM when i'm commuting home and prepping food.. but once I start eating I'm pretty good.

So basically I only really have terrible hunger between 3-6pm.

That hunger from 3-6pm is brutal sometimes. I woke up hungry as fuk today too, the coffee knocked it down until 12 but I've been dying for a big meal ever since. The thought of eating some chicken and leaving it at that is painful, I wanna destroy some pizza and wings so bad. The things we do for shreds.

[IH8RICE]

I took some measurements this morning after 4 days of PSMF and one day of refeed (3500 calories).

Turns out I lost nearly 1/2" on my waist/love handles, and a bunch of fat on my upper legs/hips.

This is a pretty big deal because a 1/2" would normally take me about 2 weeks of strict dieting.

So today I'm having a regular day of food (2500 calories) and then starting another short cycle of PSMF on Sunday. I'll go for another 5 solid days then start refeeding Friday, then transition into maintenance.

This diet is pretty legit.




Just need to find out how to make chicken taste good.. have been just chewing it and swallowing it down with water because it's so bland even with seasoning.

I gave a recipe for zesty chicken soup a few pages back and it's legit.

Gonna grab some chicken tikka from the local Indian restaurant. Everything on MFP points to tons of protein and low carbs/fat. Went to go see guardians 2 and had about half a bag of popcorn and a few sips of drink. No fuks given as we don't go the movies often anymore. Movie Was pretty damn good btw.

[SazabiBrah]

how's your guys' libido on this?

it seems like your dick would suffer

[Brophet]

how's your guys' libido on this?

Same as it's always been - nonexistent. So no difference for me

[SazabiBrah]

Same as it's always been - nonexistent. So no difference for me

lol same. My hormones have been all over the place in the last couple of years... feels bad man

[Brophet]

lol same. My hormones have been all over the place in the last couple of years... Feels bland man

fify

[SazabiBrah]

fify

How old are you brah?

I'm getting my hormones checked again in a couple weeks... I'm actually hoping they're less than ideal so I can get some "help," nomsayin?

[Brophet]

How old are you brah?

I'm getting my hormones checked again in a couple weeks...

Mid-twenties. I've thought about visiting the doc, but then again I don't really gaf.

Second day of refeed. During the last 11 days my stomach got used to smaller amounts of food, so once again I am struggling. fuk