UFC 210: Daniel Cormier vs. Anthony Johnson II-The Official Live Discussion Thread!

[sword_]

I don't get the DC hate tbh.

[DrewDarden]

I don't get the DC hate tbh.

I thought about it the other day when someone said that it's 100% because of his feud with Jon Jones, and that's got to be it.

Because nothing else makes sense.

People loved him back when he was in Strikeforce. He was fuking wrecking the HW division, and then he went to the UFC and did the same thing to the LHW division. The only fight he's ever lost was to the greatest MMA fighter in the history of the sport.

Aside from all of his athletic accomplishments, he's a family man, he coaches kids wrestling, he's one of the good guys of the sport, he's well-spoken, and he's a pretty good analyst.

He is the superior to Jon Jones in every conceivable way... except Jon won three rounds to DC's two rounds.

Anyway, it says a lot more about the person who roots for Jon Jones and boos DC than it does about either fighter to be honest.

[sooby]

Jon has a larger BBC, that's why

/thread

[KazBrah]

I think The Chris loses to The Moose.

[Gainzzz]

I don't think Weidman is quite finished yet. He was beating Yoel pretty comfortably until the knee of doom IIRC. Although he's very good, I think Mousasi is being a bit overrated.

[DrewDarden]

I don't think Weidman is quite finished yet. He was beating Yoel pretty comfortably until the knee of doom IIRC. Although he's very good, I think Mousasi is being a bit overrated.

I do think the momentum is on Mousasi's side right now. He still has something to prove, and I think that's making him very dangerous.

I had Chris tied up with Romero coming into that third round, I believe. But if we're being honest, he just hasn't been that same guy since he looked like garbage in that Rockhold fight. But if his Instagram is any indication, he's in shape and back in great shape again.

If I'm not mistaken, Chris is taller with a reach advantage, so Mousasi will be trying to get inside (into boxing/clinch range) on Chris, which may give Chris opportunities to change levels and shoot a double (and hope he doesn't get his head smashed again like he did against Romero).

All that said, I think the edge goes to Mousasi, but I don't doubt that Chris is still one of the top 10, maybe top 5 guys... I just don't know if he's still that top 3 guy anymore.

[Gainzzz]

I do think the momentum is on Mousasi's side right now. He still has something to prove, and I think that's making him very dangerous.

I had Chris tied up with Romero coming into that third round, I believe. But if we're being honest, he just hasn't been that same guy since he looked like garbage in that Rockhold fight. But if his Instagram is any indication, he's in shape and back in great shape again.

If I'm not mistaken, Chris is taller with a reach advantage, so Mousasi will be trying to get inside (into boxing/clinch range) on Chris, which may give Chris opportunities to change levels and shoot a double (and hope he doesn't get his head smashed again like he did against Romero).

All that said, I think the edge goes to Mousasi, but I don't doubt that Chris is still one of the top 10, maybe top 5 guys... I just don't know if he's still that top 3 guy anymore.

Pretty much agree. It's an interesting fight 4 sure.

[sword_]

Yep, Drew, Weidman has a longer reach but they are the same height. I don't know if Moose dealt with someone that has the top game as Weidman.

I had Chris tied up with Romero too. Lot of clinching exchanges in that fight. I think Gegard has better timing and can hurt Chris in the exchanges and Gegard has upped his killer instinct the past few fights. Chris is still overall more athletic but we have seen him slow down a bit too.

I REALLY want to see him get a title shot. Chris has had his time tbh.

[PepperedAngus]

Yep, Drew, Weidman has a longer reach but they are the same height. I don't know if Moose dealt with someone that has the top game as Weidman.

I had Chris tied up with Romero too. Lot of clinching exchanges in that fight. I think Gegard has better timing and can hurt Chris in the exchanges and Gegard has upped his killer instinct the past few fights. Chris is still overall more athletic but we have seen him slow down a bit too.

I REALLY want to see him get a title shot. Chris has had his time tbh.

Post USADA wideman has been pretty damn average.

Gegard has a win against Jacare who is a far superior top game performer than wideman imo. I thought Chris was actually winning that Romero fight until he took the superknee to the face, but overall hes not looked great, he was only winning because Romero wasnt really doing much.

[DrewDarden]

Episode 2

[Gainzzz]

damn dood, Weidman looks better than ever.. physically at least.

[sword_]

Some people are calling Gegard the Cowboy of middleweight. I hope not.

[KazBrah]

Some people are calling Gegard the Cowboy of middleweight. I hope not.

Unlinke Cowboy, I think Gayguard is natty.

[300BLK]

I thought about it the other day when someone said that it's 100% because of his feud with Jon Jones, and that's got to be it.

Because nothing else makes sense.

People loved him back when he was in Strikeforce. He was fuking wrecking the HW division, and then he went to the UFC and did the same thing to the LHW division. The only fight he's ever lost was to the greatest MMA fighter in the history of the sport.

Aside from all of his athletic accomplishments, he's a family man, he coaches kids wrestling, he's one of the good guys of the sport, he's well-spoken, and he's a pretty good analyst.

He is the superior to Jon Jones in every conceivable way... except Jon won three rounds to DC's two rounds.

Anyway, it says a lot more about the person who roots for Jon Jones and boos DC than it does about either fighter to be honest.

That's definitely it because I casually followed DC in strikeforce and that dude was a beast no doubt, was surprised Jon Jones beat him as convincingly tbh, that just shows how good both these guys are.

[Millington]

Post USADA wideman has been pretty damn average.

Gegard has a win against Jacare who is a far superior top game performer than wideman imo. I thought Chris was actually winning that Romero fight until he took the superknee to the face, but overall hes not looked great, he was only winning because Romero wasnt really doing much.

In fairness, the fight was in 2008 when Souza was more or less a pure grappler and it lasted only a minute or two because Gegard kicked him in the face.

[Deathstroke]

Jon has a larger BBC, that's why

/thread

It is large....NOW THAT IS A BIG ONE FOLKS!

[MinisterOfLust]

I don't get the DC hate tbh.

Well TBH, I hate DC. He has a nice family and he seems like a nice guy but I can't stand the man. He is too full of himself, I guess.

[sooby]

weidman lookin joocy no homo

[skinnytobulk]

I like weidman, seems like a humble guy with a family, but I also like gegard as he seems like a humble guy as well.

[Groce]

Is it me or does Whineman look fukd since the Yoel fight? His eye is still messed up and he also just looks... off

[Millington]

Is it me or does Whineman look fukd since the Yoel fight? His eye is messed up and he just looks... off

I'm not sure if it's worse but he's always had a slightly 'off' looking eye because he was born with a lazy eye and had to get surgery in 1st grade to fix it.

[wickedman]

I like DC, not sure why anyone would like Jones, dude is a major *******.

[G-Profit]

In fairness, the fight was in 2008 when Souza was more or less a pure grappler and it lasted only a minute or two because Gegard kicked him in the face.

Yep... And when they last fought a few years ago Jacare controlled him easily for most of the three rounds then submitted him late iirc

[scooterbrah]

Post USADA wideman has been pretty damn average.

this. remember when he showed up to fight post usada looking deflated and had chicken legs? brb he says "i quit drinking beer."


ok

[Gainzzz]

this. remember when he showed up to fight post usada looking deflated and had chicken legs? brb he says "i quit drinking beer."


ok

shut up hatin ass nikka, you can't deny he's looking massive and ripped for this fight. i'll bet you $0.49 Weidman wins.

i know this is serious money to you but don't pussy out.

[Exane]

DC is the dude who never quit being a bully from high school. He thinks everyone around him likes him, but they don't. Guy comes off as a ****ing chode... I never paid much attention to him outside the ring but watching those embedded vidoes, I can stand the dude. He definitely is a try hard.

Rumble on the other hand, would have a beer with/10.

[G-Profit]

DC is the dude who never quit being a bully from high school. He thinks everyone around him likes him, but they don't. Guy comes off as a ****ing chode... I never paid much attention to him outside the ring but watching those embedded vidoes, I can stand the dude. He definitely is a try hard.

Rumble on the other hand, would have a beer with/10.

Watching the embedded and UFC countdown videos make me want both DC and Rumble to win. I'm still pulling for Rumble because I think he has a better chance of beating Jones and DC has had his time. I never thought I'd say this but I'm actually rooting for Wineman now too. Always thought of him as an unlikeable ******* but I actually hope he wins this.

[Le234]

I do think the momentum is on Mousasi's side right now. He still has something to prove, and I think that's making him very dangerous.

I had Chris tied up with Romero coming into that third round, I believe. But if we're being honest, he just hasn't been that same guy since he looked like garbage in that Rockhold fight. But if his Instagram is any indication, he's in shape and back in great shape again.

If I'm not mistaken, Chris is taller with a reach advantage, so Mousasi will be trying to get inside (into boxing/clinch range) on Chris, which may give Chris opportunities to change levels and shoot a double (and hope he doesn't get his head smashed again like he did against Romero).

All that said, I think the edge goes to Mousasi, but I don't doubt that Chris is still one of the top 10, maybe top 5 guys... I just don't know if he's still that top 3 guy anymore.

I agree with you on the Rockhold comment.. Alot happened to Weidman(mentally)since that fight.. He just has not been the same.. Even in the fight,he seemed slow and just (physically)not as strong as his previous fights.. He was a bull before the Rockhold fight,but during,he was not..

[Millington]

DC is the dude who never quit being a bully from high school. He thinks everyone around him likes him, but they don't. Guy comes off as a ****ing chode... I never paid much attention to him outside the ring but watching those embedded vidoes, I can stand the dude. He definitely is a try hard.

Rumble on the other hand, would have a beer with/10.

What makes him a bully?

[DrewDarden]

What makes him a bully?

I'm trying to wrap my head around that statement, too.

According to everybody, (besides crackhead Jon Jones) he's a genuinely good guy.