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    REIT; worth it?

    I just discovered this term; is this better than investing in actual physical property?
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    Originally Posted by 3alaRase View Post
    I just discovered this term; is this better than investing in actual physical property?
    They are the same as any other dividend stock for me because I have a TFSA. But do your research because they might be different for tax purposes depending on what kind of investment vehicle you're using.

    Im kind of wishing I invested in Orchid island capital at the 9.23 price point.

    Some are good and some will be bad like any other dividend stock.

    Real property will be better long term IMO if you invest in some hot area, like Australia, socali, Vancouver, Toronto etc. That chit just keeps going up.
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    Depends.

    Couple of big players in the apartment realm. Rents in cities like Seattle are going through the roof.

    Treat it like any other dividend stock and use it to diversify your overall portfolio.
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    Originally Posted by WhAtNoWbChSs View Post
    Real property will be better long term IMO if you invest in some hot area, like Australia, socali, Vancouver, Toronto etc. That chit just keeps going up.
    Until it goes down.
    The coming credit crunch (and there will be one when rates go back up), will probably massacre real estate around the world. Wouldn't wanna be in that chit when that happens.
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    REIT is great if you want income. Equities will be better if you want long-term capital growth.
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    OP Talk to Barn who is the starter of the most recent rendition of the official trading thread. He is very knowledgable about real estate.
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    IMO no...

    Essentially, my belief is that the best properties are picked up by employees along the buying chain before they ever make it into the portfolio.


    Think about it. You are an analyst making very decent money analyzing properties... You see an AMAZING property cross your desk. Are you:

    A. Going to buy it yourself and get a long term return on.
    B. Add it to the portfolio of your company and be eligible for a small bonus/commission.

    There are also a few other layers of people it will go through before it makes it into the portfolio. However it does grant exposure to that sector at a much lower entry price.
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    Originally Posted by Austanian View Post
    IMO no...

    Essentially, my belief is that the best properties are picked up by employees along the buying chain before they ever make it into the portfolio.


    Think about it. You are an analyst making very decent money analyzing properties... You see an AMAZING property cross your desk. Are you:

    A. Going to buy it yourself and get a long term return on.
    B. Add it to the portfolio of your company and be eligible for a small bonus/commission.

    There are also a few other layers of people it will go through before it makes it into the portfolio. However it does grant exposure to that sector at a much lower entry price.
    REITs are actually composed of many different types of real estate, not just homes, and I would suspect average home income is very small on the list. Maybe luxury condos or entire condos.

    REITs are going to be composed of things like malls, business/office real estate, outlet stores. Things that generally aren't going to be bought by an individual employee.
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    Originally Posted by SAD_COW_DISEASE View Post
    REITs are actually composed of many different types of real estate, not just homes, and I would suspect average home income is very small on the list. Maybe luxury condos or entire condos.

    REITs are going to be composed of things like malls, business/office real estate, outlet stores. Things that generally aren't going to be bought by an individual employee.
    plenty of developers get outside independent financing for commercial real estate projects. I work in real estate and see various private funds with 100+ partners. Not out of the ordinary to have individual investors.
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    It's one of the better investments to diversify with. I read this book a while back called "A Random Walk Down Wallstreet", and according to a statistical analysis, a S&P 500 index fund + diversified with a couple others (REITs being a big one) had the best returns.

    Straining my memory here, but I believe it mentions that REITs can also be international, however you want local / domestic REITs. Take this with a grain of salt, it's been a while and they're not yet a part of my portfolio, but you should further investigate for sure.

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    Originally Posted by ruskism View Post
    Depends.

    Couple of big players in the apartment realm. Rents in cities like Seattle are going through the roof.

    Treat it like any other dividend stock and use it to diversify your overall portfolio.
    cept don't cause most REIT dividends are not qualified and are taxed at ordinary income instead of 15%. So put dat bish in your retirement.

    REITs much more correlated to equity markets than direct investment in property so that's a clear downside, but obviously they're more liquid.
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    Originally Posted by Austanian View Post
    IMO no...

    Essentially, my belief is that the best properties are picked up by employees along the buying chain before they ever make it into the portfolio.


    Think about it. You are an analyst making very decent money analyzing properties... You see an AMAZING property cross your desk. Are you:

    A. Going to buy it yourself and get a long term return on.
    B. Add it to the portfolio of your company and be eligible for a small bonus/commission.

    There are also a few other layers of people it will go through before it makes it into the portfolio. However it does grant exposure to that sector at a much lower entry price.
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    lol people on this site are so dumb.
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    So assuming that you want to go with an REIT, which are the top ones we should be looking at.

    I can google search and put all my faith in search results.

    But I think its better to get a consensus here, take that REIT and research it directly and then make an informed decision.
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    Originally Posted by Aesthetical View Post
    So assuming that you want to go with an REIT, which are the top ones we should be looking at.

    I can google search and put all my faith in search results.

    But I think its better to get a consensus here, take that REIT and research it directly and then make an informed decision.
    I always use the MorningStar Ratings as a starting point.

    Filter on 4 and 5 star funds and then find the one that most fits my portfolio needs based on what it does to my over all portfolio co-variance and return.

    But I am a dumb ass so who would listen to me....
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