**Official PC rig Pics/Specs/Mods thread PART V ** GOAT PC Master Race Checking In!**

[KilaByte]

Lol.

[Xinroth]

From what I can see the 9900k isn't any better than the 9700k in gaming... just better for non-gaming related stuff

9900k is 1-5% better for ~25% more..

To some people, the 9900k for gaming is still worth it. go figure eh.

[KingSWRV]

Not bad. For the rad fans I'd probably get static pressure fans if you plan on still using a radiator. But if you go traditional heatsink, then they're still worth it to force cooler ******t air into the case. No idea of the cases front end. If it's glass, it's going to perform terribly IMO. Unless the side slits are huge enough to draw fresh air in.

PSU fans suck air in and blow it out the rear. I'm not aware of any PSU that blows out. I wouldn't worry about the video card. If you went with a traditional heatsink later on, I'd turn the top fan around and blow it on the heatsinka and VRM area and let it blow out with its fan and the rear exhaust.

I just looked up your case and not gonna bother editing what I wrote earlier. I'd definitely go SP fans in the rear of the radiator to forcefully blow air through the fin setup and something to pull away from it. You don't have to deal with noise if you pick out the right fans and them at enough RPM to make sure things stay cool.

do you think I should add the 94mm fan and the 3rd fan on the radiator ? the ones with question marks on the diagram

the kraken x62 comes with two static pressure fans in the box. they are the orange squares on the diagram

[waytoodeep03]

Here we go

Should I buy a prebuilt NAS like Synology or just build a pc for a dedicated home server.

Id just be storing photos and storing a bunch of mkv movies and using plex on the server.


If I go the PC route I need the cheapest build possible that can do plex transcoding for 4k

[KingSWRV]

In a push-pull type of setup? Don't see why not. It would be good either way. Ideally you'd match the sizes up with the push fans, too. The cheapest quiet fans are like $13 a pop if that's cool with your budget.

what are some good quiet fans?

[KilaByte]

what are some good quiet fans?

Thought you run this chit.

Noctua.

[KingSWRV]

Thought you run this chit.

Noctua.

I literally have an Aorus Master board so be careful what you say to me. I am on top of the food chain here with my Aorus Master and my 9900k. You realize i have the best VRMs in any consumer board ever right? take a step back junior

[vietcong666]

I literally have an Aorus Master board so be careful what you say to me. I am on top of the food chain here with my Aorus Master and my 9900k. You realize i have the best VRMs in any consumer board ever right? take a step back junior

Doesnt the MSI Godlike Z390 have the best VRMs with its true 16 phase?

[KingSWRV]

Depends on what you define as best. You can have a lot of VRM phases but they can also be substandard quality. The ones on that particular board are good, but not for its price bracket. The same phases are found on MSI's lesser Z390 and Z370 boards. The Z390s VRMs are good, don't get me wrong but they're not efficient for a board marketed as a super high end overclocking board that may be cooled using other mediums. The vcore is killer though and really good for regular clocking including AIO or custom loops. A lot else on the board is borrowed from their Z370 and you're paying quite a bit of money for older and lesser parts.

His Z390 has one of the best VRM setups in the Z390 chipset. One of the best, just not the best. They're not as good as Gigabyte's more expensive Z390 boards. Better than Asus's offerings.

Edit: I don't think anyone in here apart from maybe InstantLoser would bother with liquid nitrogen.

Yeah the Godlike and Aorus Xtreme are both over 500$+ and barely even better. Not the same category of consumer anymore, more like prosumer.

I got mine on sale for 260$ (Normally retail at 300-350$) And it’s better than anything under 500$.

Best VRMs
Best new Bios lately for OC
Dual Bios
Huge heatsink backplate
Armor/heat sink everything
DAC on board
All the bells and whistles

ASUS cheapened out this gen losing reputation while Gigabyte went above and beyond trying to raise their reputation and build consumer rapport so they gave us a lot of value at each price point this gen.

[KingSWRV]

Yeah for that price range it does carry enough goodies. The VRMs on the higher models are slightly better, but that's about it. It's a good board. As far as your VR USB question goes, if you run into trouble, any high quality USB PCI card will do. It should only set you back maybe another $50 and likely an internal power connector, that's all. The added wifi and bluetooth support are added bonuses, IMO. Personally, I'd have preferred dual Intel NICs over wifi capability.

Have a good new years.

you as well.

btw which 92mm fan should I get out of these two for under the gpu?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KF7S9F6...v_ov_lig_dp_it

or

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IOIKG68...v_ov_lig_dp_it

[KingSWRV]

Thanks.

Is this for the area between your GPU and the PSU? If so, the Noctua. Make sure it's the PWM 4 pin version. Its speed ranges from 350-1600 RPM. Noctua is my number one choice. They're pricey but worth it. Always.

yeah it is but I just now realized the GPU fans dont actually blow out. they pull in into the card so that bottom area under the GPU is actually suction.


I just got these 3 Noctua fans :

this 140 regular to replace the top stock case exhaust fan:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

this 120 high pressure to put on the inside of Kraken radiator pulling/pushing air towards the GPU (with 2 Kraken pressure fans pushing from the outside in.)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

this 92 fan for under the GPU
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Come to find out GPU fans are intake so I think the 92 might actually be pointless unless I use it also as an intake for the underside of the gPU to pull air but that would be going against the grain of the over all flow. it might be too many fans?

this case is very “unique” in how it cools GPU better in stock fans than with positive pressure. I can really do any setup I want with so many fans but cant decide what is best.



low CPU temps are easy, lowest GPU temps are the goal here.

[Austanian]

Been struggling with my new build.

Trying to get a HTPC build cheap. The goal is to store all my blu ray and DVDs on this thing so I can get rid of my giant shelf.

I already have a 620 watt modular PSU looking for a home.

The new Ryzen 5 1600 AF seems to behave on par with a 2600 and at $85.
I could get a 3200G instead and not need a dedicated GPU. (I could also go micro ITX)

However, the RX 570 murders the APU and should be good enough to play games on console graphics. (Another option would be to drop my RX 590 in here and upgrade my desktop GPU)


PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Ryyp3t

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 AF ($85.00 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B450M PRO-M2 MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($74.98 @ Amazon)
Memory: OLOy WarHawk RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($53.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: PNY CS900 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($27.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 570 4 GB GAMING X Video Card ($85.00) USED ON EBAY
Case: Cougar MG110 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($45.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($49.88 @ Other World Computing)
Total: $522.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-03 15:38 EST-0500

Ideas?

[Austanian]

Sorry, I can't comment on the HT build, but is this CPU really as good as people are making it seem? I was going to buy a 2600x for a 2nd gaming rig but for ~$30-40 less this seems like a really good option

Based on the charts... this number 1 best value CPU in existence. It seems to basically perform like a low binned 2600, but at $85.

If you can get it to hold the 4200 1.4 OC it is on par with a 2600x.

If you are building a computer under $700 this should be your CPU.

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KRrtWb

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 AF 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor ($85.00 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Best Buy)
Memory: OLOy 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($57.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Kingston A400 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($52.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: USED Sapphire Radeon RX 580 8 GB NITRO+ Video Card ($120.00) https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sapphire-Ra...oAAOSwfJheCjRo
Case: Cougar MX340 ATX Mid Tower Case ($42.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA BQ 600 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($66.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $540.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-07 13:29 EST-0500

If I was building a machine for my kid with upgrades in mind at a later date this would be it. (Buy a few extra fans)

[TheNBAisAjoke]

I'm looking at making the switch from console to PC gaming.

90% of the time will be hardcore FPS and then games such as The Witcher.

But I really want equipment that'll ensure i'm not lagging behind in FPS.

From my limited understanding maximum threads/cores isn't necessary so I wouldn't need the most current Ryzen CPU.

Is the Ryzen 5 3600 or 3600X what I'd want from a CPU for FPS gaming?

Also, what motherboard would I want?

And what graphics card would I want? For my first build I really don't want to be dropping $2,000+ on the graphics card alone! Is there a lesser version I could get away with that wouldn't affect my FPS?

[Austanian]

I'm looking at making the switch from console to PC gaming.

90% of the time will be hardcore FPS and then games such as The Witcher.

But I really want equipment that'll ensure i'm not lagging behind in FPS.

From my limited understanding maximum threads/cores isn't necessary so I wouldn't need the most current Ryzen CPU.

Is the Ryzen 5 3600 or 3600X what I'd want from a CPU for FPS gaming?

Also, what motherboard would I want?

And what graphics card would I want? For my first build I really don't want to be dropping $2,000+ on the graphics card alone! Is there a lesser version I could get away with that wouldn't affect my FPS?

What is target resolution? Streaming or non? Budget?

Off the top of my head I would buy this. Basically the UPPER end of value. Anything more and you start getting significantly less performance per dollar.

If you are streaming you will want to sub out for either the 2060S or 2070S.

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6QRRFG

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($194.98 @ Walmart)
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Best Buy)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory ($79.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB PULSE Video Card ($409.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P400A ATX Mid Tower Case ($77.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA BQ 600 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($79.94 @ Amazon)
Total: $1057.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-07 23:53 EST-0500

[TheNBAisAjoke]

What is target resolution? Streaming or non? Budget?

Off the top of my head I would buy this. Basically the UPPER end of value. Anything more and you start getting significantly less performance per dollar.

If you are streaming you will want to sub out for either the 2060S or 2070S.

PCPartPicker Part List:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($194.98 @ Walmart)
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Best Buy)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory ($79.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB PULSE Video Card ($409.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P400A ATX Mid Tower Case ($77.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA BQ 600 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($79.94 @ Amazon)
Total: $1057.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-07 23:53 EST-0500

Thanks for the response broseph.

Target resolution... no idea what that means!

Does the monitor make a difference in regards to gaming? I'm ok not seeing 50 different shades of green in the grass if it means i'm saving $500 on a monitor, or are more expensive for significant reasons?

Budget I'd probably look at around $1500-$2000 US dollars (am in Australia)

I don't want to get lower everything and then have to upgrade straight away - I want to ensure what I buy won't need to be upgraded for another couple of years at least.

[Austanian]

AS of TODAY right now this is what I would get assuming you need to fit monitor, keyboard, and mouse into that price point.

This will be for 1080P 144+ Ultra Gaming, but can handle 1440P 70+ FPS gaming.

Nothing is the best, but nothing is horrible.

PCPartPicker Part List: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/7gwFXv

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($299.00 @ Shopping Express)
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard ($181.70 @ Device Deal)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($113.00 @ Skycomp Technology)
Storage: Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($160.00 @ Shopping Express)
Video Card: Asus Radeon RX 5700 8 GB TUF Gaming X3 OC Video Card ($459.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P400A ATX Mid Tower Case ($113.30 @ Newegg Australia)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($108.00 @ Shopping Express)
Monitor: ViewSonic XG2401 23.6" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor ($289.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Keyboard: Corsair K55 + HARPOON RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard With Optical Mouse ($111.20 @ Amazon Australia)
Total: $1834.20
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-09 04:23 AEDT+1100

PC Parts are ridiculous in Kangaroo Dollars.

[IMathew]

hnnnng it's upgrade time boyos, just waiting on cpu cooler to come in tomorrow.


going from a 4690k to 3900x should be huge gains, might upgrade my vega 56 in the summer if needed, after the new round of cards come out.

[JamesA1990]

Just slotted that sweet sweet 2080 Super into my system boyos. Feels good man. Up from a 1070ti

[KilaByte]

Just slotted that sweet sweet 2080 Super into my system boyos. Feels good man. Up from a 1070ti

Welcome to the RTX fam

[TheNBAisAjoke]

AS of TODAY right now this is what I would get assuming you need to fit monitor, keyboard, and mouse into that price point.

This will be for 1080P 144+ Ultra Gaming, but can handle 1440P 70+ FPS gaming.

Nothing is the best, but nothing is horrible.

PCPartPicker Part List:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($299.00 @ Shopping Express)
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard ($181.70 @ Device Deal)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($113.00 @ Skycomp Technology)
Storage: Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($160.00 @ Shopping Express)
Video Card: Asus Radeon RX 5700 8 GB TUF Gaming X3 OC Video Card ($459.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P400A ATX Mid Tower Case ($113.30 @ Newegg Australia)
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($108.00 @ Shopping Express)
Monitor: ViewSonic XG2401 23.6" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor ($289.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Keyboard: Corsair K55 + HARPOON RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard With Optical Mouse ($111.20 @ Amazon Australia)
Total: $1834.20
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-09 04:23 AEDT+1100

PC Parts are ridiculous in Kangaroo Dollars.

Sorry for the delayed reply bro - but huge thanks for taking the time to research that.

I'm about to head overseas for a holiday, and wouldn't be putting together my computer I don't think until April or thereabouts.

Having no idea about the tech world I have no idea whether there's a certain time of the year when new hardware is released/goes on sale etc etc.

Come April would I still be looking at those items you mention above, or are there talks of new products coming out etc?

[Austanian]

Sorry for the delayed reply bro - but huge thanks for taking the time to research that.

I'm about to head overseas for a holiday, and wouldn't be putting together my computer I don't think until April or thereabouts.

Having no idea about the tech world I have no idea whether there's a certain time of the year when new hardware is released/goes on sale etc etc.

Come April would I still be looking at those items you mention above, or are there talks of new products coming out etc?

Don't build your rig months before you need it.

Pretty much all of what I recommended was the best value as of that exact moment if I was to redo it for you today a lot of those parts would be substituted.

Australia does weird things with prices so I am not sure, but your new best gpu is probably the 2060 or 5600 XT. Come back in April.

[numberbrah]

DON'T skimp on your PSU. Last thing you want is the some cheap psu shorting and wrecking your other components.

[vietcong666]

DON'T skimp on your PSU. Last thing you want is the some cheap psu shorting and wrecking your other components.

Yes PSUs vary a lot in quality. I used to mine BTC back in the day and prob went through around 40 PSUs. I was running them bascially at their max limit 24/7 in a really hot room. The low quality PSUs would fail within the first few weeks whereas I had several PSUs from Seasonic that lasted years under these conditions.

[elterrible987]

Yes PSUs vary a lot in quality. I used to mine BTC back in the day and prob went through around 40 PSUs. I was running them bascially at their max limit 24/7 in a really hot room. The low quality PSUs would fail within the first few weeks whereas I had several PSUs from Seasonic that lasted years under these conditions.

seasonic crew. built my machine in 2013 and still going strong. upgraded graphics cards over the years but same base machine. Really only paid $100 or so for the seasonic, not worth it to save $50 on some cheap POS that worse case fries your motherboard and gpu.

[R3L3NTL3SS]

Supposed RTX 3000 series performance is beast mode.

You know, as if current 2080 Super and 2080Ti aren't enough. lol

[Austanian]

Supposed RTX 3000 series performance is beast mode.

You know, as if current 2080 Super and 2080Ti aren't enough. lol

For 4k if you are wanting higher FPS I can see the desire.

I mostly am just confused by AMD and Nvidia's pricing strategy.

AMD needs to be offering more FPS/$ to make up for their bad drivers. Instead they release a round of entry level cards less powerful than their polaris based counterparts that are also more expensive...

The cards should be set up like this.
$120
$160 (RX 590 performance)
$200
$240
$280
$320
$420
$570
$870

Each tier should be 10% more powerful than previous tier. Why AMD didn't set that pricing structure I have NO idea.

[R3L3NTL3SS]

Thinking hard about selling my 2080Ti now before it's worth ~30% less when 3000 series launches.

Meh...don't really think it's worth it in my situation though. I'm not interested in playing at 4K and my 2080Ti is still obliterating every title I've ever played on ultra settings at 1440 resolution with no problem at all. I get too caught up in having the best at all times.

[R3L3NTL3SS]

For 4k if you are wanting higher FPS I can see the desire.

I mostly am just confused by AMD and Nvidia's pricing strategy.

AMD needs to be offering more FPS/$ to make up for their bad drivers. Instead they release a round of entry level cards less powerful than their polaris based counterparts that are also more expensive...

The cards should be set up like this.
$120
$160 (RX 590 performance)
$200
$240
$280
$320
$420
$570
$870

Each tier should be 10% more powerful than previous tier. Why AMD didn't set that pricing structure I have NO idea.

AMD is just fuking everything about their new GPU's up.
Especially the 5600XT. Like...why would anyone buy that for what it costs in comparison to the cards that cost the same or a literally 10% more and give much more performance?

[Austanian]

AMD is just fuking everything about their new GPU's up.
Especially the 5600XT. Like...why would anyone buy that for what it costs in comparison to the cards that cost the same or a literally 10% more and give much more performance?

To be fair after the bios update it is pretty damn close to the 2060 (if you get lucky with their crazy memory OC and Cooling solution AND get a card with a bios update.) Like WTF how did AMD Processor division start so strong and then the GPU division fuk it up so bad.

They had the product stack to fill my pricing tier list PERFECT.

$120
$160 (RX 590 performance)
$200 (This card would have had 5% LESS performance than the 1660 Super) AMAZING VALUE
$240 (5% more perfomance than the 1660 super.)
$280 4% less performance than 2060
$320 O look The 5700. Roughly 6% better than 2060.
$420 O look the 5700 XT

Like how the fuk do you not plan this out. They would be fuking Nvidia out of every price point.

Instead I can only recommend an RX 590 and 5700 Xt. It was SO EASY.