**Official PC rig Pics/Specs/Mods thread PART V ** GOAT PC Master Race Checking In!**

[Aristotelian]

Just my opinion. Many claim they can tell a difference in 1440 vs 4k in the same size screen. I can't, not even side by side.

I can, but I think that most people (and I have tested with friends) tend to 'adjust'. People I know can see the difference if it is side by side, but it's not like if you go to 1440p after not having used the 4k 27" much that you'll 'need it'.

^^Asus ROG PG27UQ. Picked it up from microcenter for 1k even last year when I was building my first PC. I love it tbh but understand holding out for some better alternatives. There is noticeable backlight bleed, especially compared to my C9 OLED (obviously haha). I haven’t noticed it during actual games but when browsing etc it’s easy to see.

Yeah I have a C9 too, but I want to keep my PC area for gaming and then keep my living room for 'communal' stuff, movies, etc.

I'm still searching for 'the one' and came across the 32" version:



But rumors are that it'll be 3600 USD (lol) and still use dp 1.4 and hdmi 2.0 - which'll mean no from the get-go. And that's what I mean - the C9 has HDMI 2.1 and has for some time now and computer monitors at the very high end (like the PG27UQ) don't? Huh?

Still hoping it'll be a good year for PCs (monitors, graphics cards) and that we won't have to wait until 2021 for some of the better tech to be mainstreamed.

[R3L3NTL3SS]

The monitor I just bought two weeks ago is now an entire hundred ****ing dollars cheaper.
New Egg is either going to refund me the difference or I'm returning it.

[R3L3NTL3SS]

Best they would do is a $75 gift certificate. Would have been nice if I actually needed anything else for my build.
Anyone want a $75 New Egg gift card? $50. Payment via Paypal.

[FFailed]

I want to upgrade my 7700k I bought almost 3 years ago to go with my 2080ti but I'm not sure what to go for. I was thinking of getting a 10700k or 10900k but now I'm second guessing that and thinking of trying AMD. With the 10th gen Intel being such a small upgrade over the previous gen will AMD finally take the crown as far as gaming goes with their next gen stuff? The 3900x wasn't too far behind a 9900k in gaming was it?

[R3L3NTL3SS]

I want to upgrade my 7700k I bought almost 3 years ago to go with my 2080ti but I'm not sure what to go for. I was thinking of getting a 10700k or 10900k but now I'm second guessing that and thinking of trying AMD. With the 10th gen Intel being such a small upgrade over the previous gen will AMD finally take the crown as far as gaming goes with their next gen stuff? The 3900x wasn't too far behind a 9900k in gaming was it?

Meh, not worth paying Intel money to get 90% the same performance for way less money...
And in ANY application besides gaming - obliterate Intel anyway with cheaper chips...

[Austanian]

I want to upgrade my 7700k I bought almost 3 years ago to go with my 2080ti but I'm not sure what to go for. I was thinking of getting a 10700k or 10900k but now I'm second guessing that and thinking of trying AMD. With the 10th gen Intel being such a small upgrade over the previous gen will AMD finally take the crown as far as gaming goes with their next gen stuff? The 3900x wasn't too far behind a 9900k in gaming was it?

Today has been interesting seeing that 7700k get matched by a $120 CPU. I remember my 6700 well and was amazed how well it worked back in the day.

It wasn't that far behind especially at higher resolutions, but it was behind. I expect the 10900k will take AMD fairly well (provided you can cool it) also being able to get a 9900k(10700k) at $370 is intriguing. However, with them changing the socket every generation I get a bonar kill.

If I was you I would get the X570 Tomahawk and pair it with a 3600. When the 4900x releases late 2020/early 2021 upgrade to that and sell your 3600. Seems like the cheapest way to upgrade today without eating hundreds of dollars for being impatient. I am more on the value sector, so the idea of R3L3NTL3SS throwing away hundreds of dollars to have a 2080ti for a few months makes my angus hurt on his behalf.

[R3L3NTL3SS]

Today has been interesting seeing that 7700k get matched by a $120 CPU.

Even used 7700K's are still more expensive than AMD's new budget $130 3300X that beats it in many cases.
Just lmfao at Intel...

[FFailed]

Today has been interesting seeing that 7700k get matched by a $120 CPU. I remember my 6700 well and was amazed how well it worked back in the day.

It wasn't that far behind especially at higher resolutions, but it was behind. I expect the 10900k will take AMD fairly well (provided you can cool it) also being able to get a 9900k(10700k) at $370 is intriguing. However, with them changing the socket every generation I get a bonar kill.

If I was you I would get the X570 Tomahawk and pair it with a 3600. When the 4900x releases late 2020/early 2021 upgrade to that and sell your 3600. Seems like the cheapest way to upgrade today without eating hundreds of dollars for being impatient. I am more on the value sector, so the idea of R3L3NTL3SS throwing away hundreds of dollars to have a 2080ti for a few months makes my angus hurt on his behalf.

Ya I was thinking a long the same lines with buying something now since I can reuse the motherboard when the 4000 series comes out if I go Ryzen. I read that article today that benchmarked the 3300x vs the 7700k and it seems crazy it actually beat it in a few games for $120. It look like people are still paying 200+ for a used 7700k which doesn't make sense. I paid $250 for it almost 3 years ago off someone local and it was one delidded/binned by silicon lottery. Being able to use it all this time and still almost get my money back seems pretty dam good.

[Austanian]

Even used 7700K's are still more expensive than AMD's new budget $130 3300X that beats it in many cases.
Just lmfao at Intel...

It is all about that socket... Making people upgrade their MB's every generation artificially increases prices. If you had a 7000 series i5 or i3 that 7700k is your only option.

AM4 lasting 4 generations of CPU was a brilliant move. Throwing in a used 4900k into a mid tier computer 4 years from now for cheap will add a lot of life to handme down computers.

[rocketfish]

It is all about that socket... Making people upgrade their MB's every generation artificially increases prices. If you had a 7000 series i5 or i3 that 7700k is your only option.

AM4 lasting 4 generations of CPU was a brilliant move. Throwing in a used 4900k into a mid tier computer 4 years from now for cheap will add a lot of life to handme down computers.

nothing made me more mad than having a i7 6700k wanting to upgrade and the best thing I could do is a side grade to a 5% increase in performance at i7 7700k (lmfao wtf)


this 3rd gen ryzen got me to finally switch. Got the 3900x for $400 (12 cores, 24 thread).. beast mode especially for photo/video production.

and knowing 4th gen will work with my mobo, I can probably get a used or cheap lets say 4900x 3 years from now that will probably still kick ass.

[MrJensenn]

AMD just threw a bucket of cold water in the face of pre-500 series motherboard owners.
https://community.amd.com/community/...amd-socket-am4
^They say 4000-series aren't supported on pre-500 series motherboards.

Comments on reddit think otherwise given that 3000 series support wasn't "officially" declared, but it worked on all 300-series motherboards (even on A320).
https://old.reddit.com/r/Amd/comment...x570_and_b550/


So, it seems like we'll have to wait.
The argument from AMD about flash storage size was pretty weak considering that my motherboard (high-end Asus X470) has the same amount of flash storage as high-end X570 boards (https://old.reddit.com/r/Amd/comment..._motherboards/).
And when you check the spreadsheet linked above you'll see lots of boards with lots of storage.
We'll probably just have to upgrade the bios and then we're fine to go.

[R3L3NTL3SS]

AMD just threw a bucket of cold water in the face of pre-500 series motherboard owners.
https://community.amd.com/community/...amd-socket-am4
^They say 4000-series aren't supported on pre-500 series motherboards.

Comments on reddit think otherwise given that 3000 series support wasn't "officially" declared, but it worked on all 300-series motherboards (even on A320).
https://old.reddit.com/r/Amd/comment...x570_and_b550/
[img]https://community.amd.com/servlet/JiveServlet/downloadImage/38-2366-167565/1600-874/pastedImage_3.png[/ig]

So, it seems like we'll have to wait.
The argument from AMD about flash storage size was pretty weak considering that my motherboard (high-end Asus X470) has the same amount of flash storage as high-end X570 boards (https://old.reddit.com/r/Amd/comment..._motherboards/).
And when you check the spreadsheet linked above you'll see lots of boards with lots of storage.
We'll probably just have to upgrade the bios and then we're fine to go.

AMD has been saying for a while now that Ryzen would use same mobos until 2020.

Not sure why people who follow the industry and know AMD has been saying this forever are upset/caught off guard...

[MrJensenn]

AMD has been saying for a while now that Ryzen would use same mobos until 2020.

Not sure why people who follow the industry and know AMD has been saying this forever are upset/caught off guard...

Much of it probably comes from the thing that Ryzen 4000-series will be launched in 2020 and they'll be using the same socket.

[R3L3NTL3SS]

nothing made me more mad than having a i7 6700k wanting to upgrade and the best thing I could do is a side grade to a 5% increase in performance at i7 7700k (lmfao wtf)


this 3rd gen ryzen got me to finally switch. Got the 3900x for $400 (12 cores, 24 thread).. beast mode especially for photo/video production.

and knowing 4th gen will work with my mobo, I can probably get a used or cheap lets say 4900x 3 years from now that will probably still kick ass.

Even my 3600X is a beast in production applications. And it's no where near the higher end of what AMD can do. And I still have a **** load of CPU horsepower for gaming with it too.


In reality, unless your CPU is a potato, there's a 99% chance your CPU isn't holding you back these days.

Literally an AMD Ryzen 1600 that used to be able to be bought for UNDER $100 (before demand for them drove the price up) could be paired with a 2080Ti and in 1440 resolution, you weren't losing that much FPS performance to a CPU costing 2-3X more.
Just all the more reason why it's cringey that people demand an i9 9900 for gaming when you're spending a **** ton of money for extremely minimal performance gains depending on resolution. It simply isn't worth it to buy Intel anymore, in any category...gaming or not for the priceerformance ratio. If you just have money to blow and demand every tiny bit of performance you can get, sure. For the other 99% of people - hell no.

[R3L3NTL3SS]

Much of it probably comes from the thing that Ryzen 4000-series will be launched in 2020 and they'll be using the same socket.

They supported the same damn motherboards for, what, 4 generations of CPU now? Way longer than Intel ever has. I don't see the big deal. Such is life when you're constantly buying on the bleeding edge of tech...

[freeburn]

It might be time for an upgrade from this reference 1080ti.

Whats the bees knees in gpus these days? Should I be waiting for new nvidia series? When is that

[Austanian]

I thought Ryzen 4000 was Zen 2+?

I figured Ryzen 5000 was going to switch sockets because I saw DDR5 on their road map.

It might be time for an upgrade from this reference 1080ti.

Whats the bees knees in gpus these days? Should I be waiting for new nvidia series? When is that

Wait

The 1080 TI is still the 3rd best card. Spending the high end premium on something that will perform like mid tier cards is pretty crazy.

Though I don't have money to blow.

[MrJensenn]

I thought Ryzen 4000 was Zen 2+?

I figured Ryzen 5000 was going to switch sockets because I saw DDR5 on their road map.

4000 series is Zen 3.
This is like I said previously not set in stone given the one technical thing they mentioned in that blog post was flash which lots of "older" cards have lots of.

[KramericaInd]

isnt ampere 12/14 nm and big navi 7nm lmao

wonder if my 2700 will bottleneck next gen navi gpu, probably so.

[KilaByte]

isnt ampere 12/14 nm and big navi 7nm lmao

wonder if my 2700 will bottleneck next gen navi gpu, probably so.

I'd say so, my Ivy Bridge was bottlenecking a 2080.

[KramericaInd]

I'd say so, my Ivy Bridge was bottlenecking a 2080.

new gpu, new mobo, new cpu, new 4k120hz monitor. fak me

[InstantLoser]

No Ampere is 7nm, and then Hopper will be 5nm. Don't know or care about Navi, as AMD is budget brand when it comes to GPUs.

But who was "Big Navi"

lol

[Wazooty]

So a few days ago I ordered parts for an lga1151 rig, just to do some research and see that lga1200 is about to release. Luckily nothing has been opened as some of the parts are still in transit, and I only need to return the mobo and processor. Glad I caught that!

[bartosh]

giuse will my i9-9900k bottleneck the 3080ti when i upgrade from my 1080?


I'm currently having an issue where my ram(32gb) is somehow at 30-50% usage according to my msi overlay despite task manager only showing 1gb used at most

thoughts on why there's a discrepancy?

[freeburn]

My 7600k is feeling the burn lately. Might be time for a bunch of upgrades.

[R3L3NTL3SS]

But who was "Big Navi"

lol

Probably still won't hang with RTX 3000.
Curious to see if they even have something that will be on par with 2080Ti.

[Aristotelian]

giuse will my i9-9900k bottleneck the 3080ti when i upgrade from my 1080?

What resolution do you play at? The higher you go the more GPU restricted your use case is. I haven't played at 1080p since pre 2011 so it has pretty much always been a GPU issue for me when it comes to bottlenecks.

[Wazooty]

Good to see that 10 years later the issues that made me swear off AMD are still going strong.

[R3L3NTL3SS]

amd can go fuk themselves with their chitty gpus and chitty drivers.

Their GPU's are fine on a hardware level. It's the drivers that are garbage.

[bartosh]

What resolution do you play at? The higher you go the more GPU restricted your use case is. I haven't played at 1080p since pre 2011 so it has pretty much always been a GPU issue for me when it comes to bottlenecks.

3440x1440 and i'll stay here until there's some monitor with

40in ultrawide
5120x2160
1000hdr
120+hz