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07-31-2020, 03:41 PM #5221
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07-31-2020, 04:24 PM #5222
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07-31-2020, 05:12 PM #5223
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07-31-2020, 05:22 PM #5224
Intel fanboys stuck on that 1080P bull**** I guess.
Literally any mid level CPU is PLENTY good enough for 1440 and 4k gaming. At those resolutions, its all about GPU power. Intel fanboys just trying to hang onto something I guess...
Literally a 9900K vs a ~$200 Ryzen CPU is single digit percentage difference in performance at 1440 and 4k. Lmao at any moron willing to pay double for "mUh 5% mOrE pErfOrmANce"!
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07-31-2020, 06:35 PM #5225
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Starting to wonder if YOU are a fan boy... or if your research is all based on 9000 series parts?
The 10600k ($280) with a mild OC outperforms the 9900k in gaming.
In many games that difference between the 10600k and 3600 ($160) is 10-20%.
So we need to look at what tier of computers where the $120 couldn't be better used to move up the the next tier of GPU.
This is right around 2070S tier builds. ($1300? right now?)
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07-31-2020, 06:43 PM #5226
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07-31-2020, 07:01 PM #5227
That video doesn't have 4K gaming benchmarks; it has very few 1440p gaming benchmarks; the majority are at 1080p, or synthetic benchmarks. You know, the kind of benchmarking that either caters to people who play at a resolution I last played on in 2010, or...fanboys, who desperately need to throw out "20% faster" hyperbole.
I mean, if people here play on 1080p 144+ Hz...good for them. That's why it is silly to discuss "which cpu" without the person stating the resolution. Like I said above...
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07-31-2020, 07:19 PM #5228
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07-31-2020, 07:25 PM #5229
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Do you know what... I apologize. You are right.
I couldn't find the 10600k (5.1 OC) vs the 3600 in 1440p as I watched the video months ago. The 10600k with the 5.1 OC does match the 10900k though so we can use that as a base.
So we are looking at 8% average 1440p gain (with a 2080 TI)
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07-31-2020, 07:42 PM #5230
Looks like a solid performer brah.
Still talking about a $160 CPU vs $260 CPU though.
~40% more expensive for 8% more performance.
3700x would be a more fair comparison price for price and that 8% performance gap would be probably cut in half due to the 3700x having higher boost clock than 3600.Last edited by R3L3NTL3SS; 07-31-2020 at 07:53 PM.
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07-31-2020, 08:06 PM #5231
fuking that fat AMD shill
it kills that butt fuker that Intel is still on top still lmao
Thats why he is delivering the results in monotone. His argument for AMD is stupid as hell because on top of getting less performance with AMD you also have less driver compatability so considering that it would drive the low end gaming and best overall categories both to Intel being the best purchase.
Their logic is broken and missing the big picture of consumer considerations. Bogus category choices and biased as hell.
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07-31-2020, 08:08 PM #5232
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07-31-2020, 08:36 PM #5233
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07-31-2020, 11:27 PM #5234
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The charts I posted above proving that you were right and I was wrong show a 2% increase in FPS at 1440P between 3600 and 3700x. So if you are going to use the minor difference at 1440p to prove your point stick with it.
I have a 3600 for exactly that reason. The 3600 provided the best value while also being a very capable gaming CPU.
However, $120 for 8% FPS improvement isn't bad at all once we start talking about the price gap between a 2070s, 2080s, and 2080 TI.
My philosophy is give me a budget and a purpose for a rig and I will stick the best value up to your budget.
Once you start crossing over 2070s builds the biggest gain for the least amount of money is typically that CPU.
Not sure how I can see his shilling... He is legit one of the best sources for hardware analysis.
Intel decided to cuck consumers for years and it was only because Zen 2 took apart intel's product stack that we got viable 10th gen options.Last edited by Austanian; 07-31-2020 at 11:42 PM.
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08-01-2020, 03:22 AM #5235
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08-01-2020, 05:26 AM #5236
cheers. i'll be using 1440p
for the time being i'll probably just upgrade the gfx card in fall. the trusty 2600k can still handle any games i throw at it and nowadays i don't do as much video and photo editing as i used to.
but maybe next year sometime i'll look to change the whole build because ill need to upgrade the motherboard and ram if i change the CPU anyway. it will get expensiveMotorcycle Crew
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08-01-2020, 06:16 AM #5237
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08-01-2020, 08:27 AM #5238
CPU gaming benchmarks are lulz and have been for some time anyway. I'd much rather be on AM4 than LGA1200, because I don't use my PC exclusively for PC gaming.
I had been on an overclocked 2600K until last December. It was an incredible CPU, and I found a buyer for it on craigslist within hours.
I'd recommend a system overhaul - you'll benefit in many ways with the new platform. On "expensive", this depends on your budget, but you could do a nice 1440p rig for a decent price (are you changing your monitor too?) next fall, say when the 3XXX series are released.
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08-01-2020, 08:42 AM #5239
To me it's just funny that people make that argument that Intel is still "king of gaming" when that really only applies to 1080. Price points still favor AMD. As I said on the last page...40% more money for 8% more performance? No thanks. Or if you go 1:1 on price (say 3700X vs 10600) then the performance difference is even more narrow and you still would have a CPU that would destroy the Intel chip in any multi threaded application. Regardless, the difference in performance is literally margin of error at 1440 and 4k. If you play at 1080 and just need "all the frames" then I guess sure...
Then you have Bob Swan (KingSWRV) constantly foaming at the mouth about drivers, stability, etc when AMD has mage HUGE leaps in those departments with Ryzen over the last year or so.Last edited by R3L3NTL3SS; 08-01-2020 at 08:47 AM.
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08-01-2020, 08:43 AM #5240
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08-01-2020, 08:55 AM #5241
you mean the coming fall? yeah im considering the 3080 as a gpu upgrade, as for modern games the cpu stlll won't be a bottleneck. i'm sticking with 1440p, been using a dell u2711 for the past decade and it hasn't faltered. brilliant monitor
and will most likely overhaul the system next year. are intel planning to release any new competitors to amd's range in the near future?
I'm happy to adapt the budget as needed. I'm after premium spec, but at the same time i wouldn't buy something where the price/performance isn't justified.Motorcycle Crew
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08-01-2020, 09:15 AM #5242
So much discusion about cpus.... you honestly might get more fps just simply upgrading/overclocking ram speed
take a look at 2133 vs 3200MHz
Big difference:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rj5sJARtEV0
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08-01-2020, 09:36 AM #5243
I had a 3570k i built at the end of 2012, some where along the line sold that and put a used 3770k in there, which ended up a good idea since the extra threads really prolonged the life out of the system and helps with microstudder on modern games. I finally went to a 3600 system this year since the prices were so good. I got really good prices for my used 3770k, ram and motherboard, was very surprised how well they sold.
realistically I could go intel again since the only demanding thing I do is gaming but i like that amd has provided more update paths compared to intel. It was right before 10th gen was really out for intel so 9th gen was a no go and even if I waited for the 10th gen chips that are now out, I still would probably be stuck with that while with AMD I can move to the 4000 series without a new board and if they have as good of deals as they have this year it might be worth it in another 2 years or so.
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08-01-2020, 09:39 AM #5244
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08-01-2020, 10:58 AM #5245
Reps to whoever can help. I am at the end of my rope. I can't get windows to bypass the login screen when it boots. I've tried netplwiz command but the box to uncheck isn't there for whatever reason. I've tried every Google result I've found to no avail. But I can't stand my pc booting up to the lock screen. Please help meee ****kkkkk I'm getting so annoyed with windows
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08-01-2020, 04:31 PM #5246
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08-02-2020, 07:28 PM #5247
here's the current status of my new quarantine room
pretty happy with how it turned out
65" TCL 65R617 4k TV - basically just use for Netflix / Spotify
Left Computer:
Dell Lattitude 3400 work laptop
Dell D3100 docking station
Corsair K70 keyboard
Razer Naga mouse
2x Pixio PX277 monitors
Right Computer:
SLI 1080ti, i7-8700k, 32gb ram, etc
Corsair K70 keyboard
Razer Naga Mouse
1x Pixio PX277
1x Samsung CF791
Herman Miller Aeron size B chair
2x sets of Klipsch 2.1s, one for the TV one for the gaming PC
Desks - cheap quality but hold everything okay:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Monitor mounts - absolutely love these. super easy to use, sturdy af:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1Last edited by PositiveCrew; 08-02-2020 at 08:34 PM.
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08-02-2020, 08:04 PM #5248
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08-02-2020, 08:15 PM #5249
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08-03-2020, 06:01 AM #5250
Jesus christ, you're living that goat rot life.
I wish I could have that set up lmao, but right now, just have my tv in the living room and my pc rig in the main room, so whenever I wanna play Pc on the tv, I need to keep lugging it back and forth from my room to my monitor.Sig line can't be a novel
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