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    4950x/3080ti 2021 crew

    unless intel does launch a 7nm 16 core

    want a machine that will last 10 more years
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    unless intel does launch a 7nm 16 core
    They won't. Not any time soon.
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    Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS View Post
    Supposedly 3000 series is actually going to be cheaper than 2000 was at launch. But I doubt that will be the case for the first few months do to supply issues. So I'd say 2000 series prices it what can be expected. Unless AMD big navi is even close to being on par with 3000 series RTX, don't expect any price breaks for sure.

    As for performance increases, everything you read right now is essentially bull****. I don't care about all the rumors of supposed 50+% increases and **** like that... I'll wait to see what real reviewers say and see benchmarks. Frankly, the thought of a card only 1 gen after the 2080Ti being being even 30% faster I find extremely hard to believe, much less 40 and 50% like some rumors are claiming, but we'll see.
    For a moment lets assume they are all telling the truth.

    The 6900xt or what ever they call it will be about 2x 5700 XT performance based on number of cores plus a minor IPC improvement.

    If the 3080 TI isn't 50% better they could very easily lose or have a contested performance crown.

    As it is.

    I see AMD offering 90% of the performance at 66% ($1200 vs $800) the price on the top end. Not sure what that means for people like you that can afford the premium, but I see 4k @ 60 and 1440 at 120 being brought down to the $500 price point.

    Originally Posted by MiscMathematician View Post
    4950x/3080ti 2021 crew

    unless intel does launch a 7nm 16 core

    want a machine that will last 10 more years
    Uggg don't do that...

    You will end up spending 4x as much then end up with 3 years of amazing performance. 3 years of good performance and 4 years of chit.

    You are better off building with CPU upgrades every 5 and GPU upgrades every 3.
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    been running 2x 2080ti hydro-copper ftw3.

    Im thinking to sell one on ebay for real cheap in anticipation of the 3080ti. Right now my monitor can support 4k @ 144hz via display port.

    I have a new house though and im setting up a gaming room. Thinking to get the 55" oled CX as im ASSUMING the new gpu + new consoles will support HDMI 2.1.
    That would be an amazing monitor/tv combo.
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    Originally Posted by Austanian View Post

    but I see 4k @ 60 and 1440 at 120 being brought down to the $500 price point.
    My body is ready
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    Originally Posted by Podunks View Post
    Agreed, but man, it would be awesome if those rumors were true, we need more GPU horsepower to push monitor and VR manufacturers.
    Exactly. My memory might be failing me but the scene seems quite 'quiet' (relative to previous releases) for what should be major releases from both manufacturers this year.
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    Originally Posted by Austanian View Post

    You will end up spending 4x as much then end up with 3 years of amazing performance. 3 years of good performance and 4 years of chit.

    You are better off building with CPU upgrades every 5 and GPU upgrades every 3.
    I've been on my Xeon ivy bridge for 8 years, only upgrading the GPU from an HD6970 to 980ti about 5 years ago. It still games fine.

    I agree it could cost more but 4x? not even 2x, when you consider the need for a new motherboard with the new CPU ( and that I'd upgrade the GPU either way if at all). I doubt AM4 will be used in 3-4 years, and I doubt there will be a "need" to upgrade CPU unless something big happens beyond the x% IPC YOY.
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    Originally Posted by Aristotelian View Post
    Exactly. My memory might be failing me but the scene seems quite 'quiet' (relative to previous releases) for what should be major releases from both manufacturers this year.
    Well this dumbass virus has everything as far as electronics moving at a snails pace since the HUGE majority of it is all Chinese.
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    Originally Posted by MiscMathematician View Post
    I've been on my Xeon ivy bridge for 8 years, only upgrading the GPU from an HD6970 to 980ti about 5 years ago. It still games fine.

    I agree it could cost more but 4x? not even 2x, when you consider the need for a new motherboard with the new CPU ( and that I'd upgrade the GPU either way if at all). I doubt AM4 will be used in 3-4 years, and I doubt there will be a "need" to upgrade CPU unless something big happens beyond the x% IPC YOY.
    Ryzen 5000 is slated to use DDR5 so AM4 is over after 4000.

    I need to get some stuff done at work, but we can do a high end value vs absolute best cost vs return.
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    Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS View Post
    Well this dumbass virus has everything as far as electronics moving at a snails pace since the HUGE majority of it is all Chinese.
    It seems that way - and I hope Cyberpunk won't be delayed again regardless of hardware release delays.

    At the end of the day I used my 2600K Sandybridge overclocked until last Christmas. I think I'm a bit 'over' the incremental CPU upgrades we are seeing (in terms of gaming - for productivity my 3900X is fantastic), and with the new controllers coming for SSDs too I mean...we are ready for a more 'generational shift' in GPUs.

    When was the last time we had them? The 980Ti release?
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    I wonder if the next AMD chipset will herald DDR5 support... Because with how much AMD chips like fast memory, I can see that being a pretty big game changer.
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    Leaked pics of the 3000 series reference design:


    https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-g...-3080-pictured

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    although i have a closed case and don't care at all how the internals look outside of airflow, personally i think that blue card at the top looks SICK
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    Z490 mobo finally arrived a week after everything else. Since my windows 10 was upgraded for free from windows 7, and I only have a windows 7 key, I figure I'd just reinstall windows 7 using a new drive on the new mobo but...nope. Asus stopped supporting windows 7 so I was simply unable to click the "next" buttons once the windows installer booted up. Lame. Their bios has a billion settings but they got rid of the win7 compatibility one.

    Out of desperation I decided to just see if my windows 10, still installed on its SSD would transfer over to the new hardware. Lo an behold, it seems to work perfectly. Though I can't help but feel somethings going to go wrong.

    16 gigs of ram is great, a much more powerful cpu is great, but until I upgrade my graphics card from a gtx 970 (trying to wait for 3000) not much to say about it.

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    Im gona wait until a good watercooled version of the 3080ti comes out. Not a waterblock self install kit either. I need a pre built with good board like the ftw3 hydrocopper
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    Im gona wait until a good watercooled version of the 3080ti comes out. Not a waterblock self install kit either. I need a pre built with good board like the ftw3 hydrocopper
    Same. FTW3 or Maxx AMP from Zotac... Or comparable AORUS etc.
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    Im gona wait until a good watercooled version of the 3080ti comes out. Not a waterblock self install kit either. I need a pre built with good board like the ftw3 hydrocopper
    IF I buy a 3080Ti, it will be an MSi Gaming X Trio without a doubt. My 2080Ti GXT is just a fuking monster. Overclock extremely well and temps are suuper good. Under gaming loads with fans only set to 60% my card stays at 58-60ish C. Could get it down further easily with more fan speed, but it's already wayyyyy below any throttling point and and don't want the added fan noise.
    Whether or not I buy one will probably come down to performance in CP2077. If my 2080Ti will do at least 60FPS with no dips at 3440X1440/ultra settings/rtx on I probably won't upgrade. Haven't found an RTX game yet that it won't, but I also know CP2077 is going to be a very demanding game, so we'll see.
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    Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS View Post
    IF I buy a 3080Ti, it will be an MSi Gaming X Trio without a doubt. My 2080Ti GXT is just a fuking monster. Overclock extremely well and temps are suuper good. Under gaming loads with fans only set to 60% my card stays at 58-60ish C. Could get it down further easily with more fan speed, but it's already wayyyyy below any throttling point and and don't want the added fan noise.
    Whether or not I buy one will probably come down to performance in CP2077. If my 2080Ti will do at least 60FPS with no dips at 3440X1440/ultra settings/rtx on I probably won't upgrade. Haven't found an RTX game yet that it won't, but I also know CP2077 is going to be a very demanding game, so we'll see.
    Bruh, with the delays that CP2077 have had till now you'll be on your third 2080Ti or a 3080Ti before you've had the chance to play it
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    Bruh, with the delays that CP2077 have had till now you'll be on your third 2080Ti or a 3080Ti before you've had the chance to play it
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    Nvidia up to some shenanigans? 3090 now, co-processor...?
    IF the name 3090 sticks, it will simply be what is now the Titan card.
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    Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS View Post
    IF the name 3090 sticks, it will simply be what is now the Titan card.
    Regardless of the naming - if it sits as high as a Titan in the product stack I can only hope they lead with it. I'll get an AIO version and call it a day, then just focus on the next gen 4K monitors which I'm still waiting for...that PG32UQX for example. Yet these products keep getting announced and are kept shrouded in mystery, ugh.
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    Regardless of the naming - if it sits as high as a Titan in the product stack I can only hope they lead with it. I'll get an AIO version and call it a day
    But why? If it's like the current Titan RTX vs 2080Ti, it's not even remotely close to being worth the purchase for gaming. The Titan RTX offers an extremely minimal jump in performance over the 2080Ti for gaming at 2X the price.
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    Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS View Post
    But why? If it's like the current Titan RTX vs 2080Ti, it's not even remotely close to being worth the purchase for gaming. The Titan RTX offers an extremely minimal jump in performance over the 2080Ti for gaming at 2X the price.
    I should have clarified that I have memories of the days when Titans were good for gaming, too. I'm not advocating for minimal jumps at 2x the price. And I think things will be shaken up a bit this generation.
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