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    I would have stayed with Intel if any of their new chips were even available to find for purchase. I waited for a while but lost my patience and went with amd.
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    Originally Posted by Austanian View Post
    Sort of...

    So the R5 3600 is the king of value
    The i5 10600k is the king of gaming
    the 3700x is for a gamer that wants to do editing on the side and doesn't have the budget for a 3900x.
    the 3900x or 3950x is the king of productivity
    10900k ties the 10600k in gaming and is closer to the 3900x in productivity. Pick this for Solidworks or Adobe, but only those use cases.
    Originally Posted by Aristotelian View Post
    It depends on the resolution you'll be playing at. People keep talking about the "king of gaming" but I have my build planned around 4K, and I'd love to see some 4K benchmarks where the CPU is an issue. "High end" PC gaming is much more GPU bound than CPU.
    cheers. i'll be using 1440p

    for the time being i'll probably just upgrade the gfx card in fall. the trusty 2600k can still handle any games i throw at it and nowadays i don't do as much video and photo editing as i used to.
    but maybe next year sometime i'll look to change the whole build because ill need to upgrade the motherboard and ram if i change the CPU anyway. it will get expensive
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    Originally Posted by Austanian View Post
    The charts I posted above proving that you were right and I was wrong show a 2% increase in FPS at 1440P between 3600 and 3700x. So if you are going to use the minor difference at 1440p to prove your point stick with it.
    Not sure where I ever deviated from my point anyway but ok lol.
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    Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS View Post
    Wait...you posted all that when I was never talking about 1080 gaming, which we already know is more CPU bound? Lmao ok brah. I mean, my entire post was clearly about 1440 and 4k gaming, but you went out your way to post about 1080 performance?
    CPU gaming benchmarks are lulz and have been for some time anyway. I'd much rather be on AM4 than LGA1200, because I don't use my PC exclusively for PC gaming.

    Originally Posted by smashedurgfx10 View Post
    cheers. i'll be using 1440p

    for the time being i'll probably just upgrade the gfx card in fall. the trusty 2600k can still handle any games i throw at it and nowadays i don't do as much video and photo editing as i used to.
    but maybe next year sometime i'll look to change the whole build because ill need to upgrade the motherboard and ram if i change the CPU anyway. it will get expensive
    I had been on an overclocked 2600K until last December. It was an incredible CPU, and I found a buyer for it on craigslist within hours.

    I'd recommend a system overhaul - you'll benefit in many ways with the new platform. On "expensive", this depends on your budget, but you could do a nice 1440p rig for a decent price (are you changing your monitor too?) next fall, say when the 3XXX series are released.
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    Originally Posted by Aristotelian View Post
    CPU gaming benchmarks are lulz and have been for some time anyway. I'd much rather be on AM4 than LGA1200, because I don't use my PC exclusively for PC gaming.
    To me it's just funny that people make that argument that Intel is still "king of gaming" when that really only applies to 1080. Price points still favor AMD. As I said on the last page...40% more money for 8% more performance? No thanks. Or if you go 1:1 on price (say 3700X vs 10600) then the performance difference is even more narrow and you still would have a CPU that would destroy the Intel chip in any multi threaded application. Regardless, the difference in performance is literally margin of error at 1440 and 4k. If you play at 1080 and just need "all the frames" then I guess sure...
    Then you have Bob Swan (KingSWRV) constantly foaming at the mouth about drivers, stability, etc when AMD has mage HUGE leaps in those departments with Ryzen over the last year or so.
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    No discussion about nvda nearing a deal to buy ARM ?

    Wouldn't affect amd in the short term but when we are talking 5+ years out it's a massive kick in the face
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    Originally Posted by Aristotelian View Post
    CPU gaming benchmarks are lulz and have been for some time anyway. I'd much rather be on AM4 than LGA1200, because I don't use my PC exclusively for PC gaming.



    I had been on an overclocked 2600K until last December. It was an incredible CPU, and I found a buyer for it on craigslist within hours.

    I'd recommend a system overhaul - you'll benefit in many ways with the new platform. On "expensive", this depends on your budget, but you could do a nice 1440p rig for a decent price (are you changing your monitor too?) next fall, say when the 3XXX series are released.
    you mean the coming fall? yeah im considering the 3080 as a gpu upgrade, as for modern games the cpu stlll won't be a bottleneck. i'm sticking with 1440p, been using a dell u2711 for the past decade and it hasn't faltered. brilliant monitor

    and will most likely overhaul the system next year. are intel planning to release any new competitors to amd's range in the near future?

    I'm happy to adapt the budget as needed. I'm after premium spec, but at the same time i wouldn't buy something where the price/performance isn't justified.
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    So much discusion about cpus.... you honestly might get more fps just simply upgrading/overclocking ram speed
    take a look at 2133 vs 3200MHz

    Big difference:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rj5sJARtEV0
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    Originally Posted by Aristotelian View Post
    CPU gaming benchmarks are lulz and have been for some time anyway. I'd much rather be on AM4 than LGA1200, because I don't use my PC exclusively for PC gaming.



    I had been on an overclocked 2600K until last December. It was an incredible CPU, and I found a buyer for it on craigslist within hours.

    I'd recommend a system overhaul - you'll benefit in many ways with the new platform. On "expensive", this depends on your budget, but you could do a nice 1440p rig for a decent price (are you changing your monitor too?) next fall, say when the 3XXX series are released.

    I had a 3570k i built at the end of 2012, some where along the line sold that and put a used 3770k in there, which ended up a good idea since the extra threads really prolonged the life out of the system and helps with microstudder on modern games. I finally went to a 3600 system this year since the prices were so good. I got really good prices for my used 3770k, ram and motherboard, was very surprised how well they sold.

    realistically I could go intel again since the only demanding thing I do is gaming but i like that amd has provided more update paths compared to intel. It was right before 10th gen was really out for intel so 9th gen was a no go and even if I waited for the 10th gen chips that are now out, I still would probably be stuck with that while with AMD I can move to the 4000 series without a new board and if they have as good of deals as they have this year it might be worth it in another 2 years or so.
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    Originally Posted by EliteBrah View Post
    So much discusion about cpus.... you honestly might get more fps just simply upgrading/overclocking ram speed
    take a look at 2133 vs 3200MHz

    Big difference:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rj5sJARtEV0
    yeah one of the things people forget often when comparing consoles vs PC, they do forget consoles often are using vram or gddr ram for their entire system memory these days so their bandwidth is huge, it really helps.
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    I would have stayed with Intel if any of their new chips were even available to find for purchase. I waited for a while but lost my patience and went with amd.
    Ok then I forgive you

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    here's the current status of my new quarantine room




    pretty happy with how it turned out

    65" TCL 65R617 4k TV - basically just use for Netflix / Spotify

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    Right Computer:
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    Corsair K70 keyboard
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    1x Samsung CF791

    Herman Miller Aeron size B chair

    2x sets of Klipsch 2.1s, one for the TV one for the gaming PC

    Desks - cheap quality but hold everything okay:

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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    Lol, that's awesome bro.

    You could get alot of space back tho if you mount your TV. That's what I did in my old bedroom, made a huge difference.
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    Lol, that's awesome bro.

    You could get alot of space back tho if you mount your TV. That's what I did in my old bedroom, made a huge difference.
    I'm still considering it, but I really don't know what I would use the empty space for.

    the room is pretty much perfect. just need a mini fridge under the desk and then a drawer by the bed
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    Originally Posted by PositiveCrew View Post
    here's the current status of my new quarantine room




    pretty happy with how it turned out

    65" TCL 65R617 4k TV - basically just use for Netflix / Spotify

    Left Computer:
    Dell Lattitude 3400 work laptop
    Dell D3100 docking station
    Corsair K70 keyboard
    Razer Naga mouse
    2x Pixio PX277 monitors

    Right Computer:
    SLI 1080ti, i7-8700k, 32gb ram, etc
    Corsair K70 keyboard
    Razer Naga Mouse
    1x Pixio PX277
    1x Samsung CF791

    Herman Miller Aeron size B chair

    2x sets of Klipsch 2.1s, one for the TV one for the gaming PC

    Desks - cheap quality but hold everything okay:

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    Monitor mounts - absolutely love these. super easy to use, sturdy af:

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1




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    I wish I could have that set up lmao, but right now, just have my tv in the living room and my pc rig in the main room, so whenever I wanna play Pc on the tv, I need to keep lugging it back and forth from my room to my monitor.
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    Jesus christ, you're living that goat rot life.




    I wish I could have that set up lmao, but right now, just have my tv in the living room and my pc rig in the main room, so whenever I wanna play Pc on the tv, I need to keep lugging it back and forth from my room to my monitor.
    I used to run a long HDMI cord from my upstairs bedroom down to my living room to play my PS3.
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    you mean the coming fall? yeah im considering the 3080 as a gpu upgrade, as for modern games the cpu stlll won't be a bottleneck. i'm sticking with 1440p, been using a dell u2711 for the past decade and it hasn't faltered. brilliant monitor and will most likely overhaul the system next year. are intel planning to release any new competitors to amd's range in the near future? I'm happy to adapt the budget as needed. I'm after premium spec, but at the same time i wouldn't buy something where the price/performance isn't justified.
    Intel is facing rather drastic production issues, and (imho) the 10900K is simply not worth it. I have a u2711 as well on my desk right now - it will become my second monitor as soon as something like the Asus PG32UQX is released and doesn't have QC issues.

    I'm using a 3900X, and am curious to see the next Zen coming out later this year, still on AM4. Once Intel gets on the PCI-E 4.0 train I'll start considering them again, but again - in the CPU space - I'm just not liking their offerings much.

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    Originally Posted by InstantLoser View Post
    Anyone here have a line on an RTX Titan for a relatively reasonable price (like sub-$2000)? Trying to up my "Deep Fake" game, but pretty much all cards that are worth a **** at deep learning are big $$$. The RTX Titan is one of the best cards right now for the job, only being bested AFAIK for the most part by the RTX Quadro 8000 which is like $5000 (but has 48GB of GDDR6, so there that..).
    Damn, I have a brand new one sealed for $2,100.
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    Damn, I have a brand new one sealed for $2,100.
    Bummer, I paid $2300.
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    how can i liquid cool my gpu without spending a fortune? damn xfx gpus and their incessant noise production.
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    how can i liquid cool my gpu without spending a fortune? damn xfx gpus and their incessant noise production.
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    @PositiveCrew - did you know Windows can set a different wallpaper for each monitor? (It looked so bland with the same stock one )
    Just point it to a folder and you can put it to shuffle the pictures each hour or so.
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    haha yes I did, I matched them on purpose :P I literally will never see the background except that one picture
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    Should I sell my RX 590 now?

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    Originally Posted by MiscMathematician View Post
    I used to run a long HDMI cord from my upstairs bedroom down to my living room to play my PS3.


    That's PS3 .... Playing a PS4/PC with 60 fps and HDR or any other 4k content would require at least a 2.0 cable with about 18gbs speed properly .... At least from what I've read and not sure if there are any cables at that length that supports that. Anything over 5m seems to have problem at running through that much data.
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    Should I sell my RX 590 now?

    Planning on getting a RTX 3070 or AMD equivalent at launch (or whenever Gamers Nexus releases reviews. )
    I really don't think your RX590 is going to lose any more value whether you sell it now or 2-3 months from now lol.
    2000 series RTX is another story.
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    Lads, quick question. Do you all lock your FPS or play unlocked? So I have a 4k/HDR/120hz monitor(144 only with an overclock). But display port 1.4 can only go to 98hz if the signal is 4k and HDR. So I’ve been playing RPGs like the Witcher and the frame rate jumps around 75-98fps. I was wondering if you all would normally lock the game to 60 in this case or just let it jump around. Or does it not matter at all. Still newer to PC gaming and I’m not sure if it matters. Since it never goes below 60.
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    Originally Posted by Elvis.Costello View Post
    Lads, quick question. Do you all lock your FPS or play unlocked? So I have a 4k/HDR/120hz monitor(144 only with an overclock). But display port 1.4 can only go to 98hz if the signal is 4k and HDR. So I’ve been playing RPGs like the Witcher and the frame rate jumps around 75-98fps. I was wondering if you all would normally lock the game to 60 in this case or just let it jump around. Or does it not matter at all. Still newer to PC gaming and I’m not sure if it matters. Since it never goes below 60.
    Always lock it brah.

    Even if you're maintaining high fames, 10-20FPS variances can definitely come through as stuttering. At least I notice it.
    For witcher I'd lock at 60. Literally zero reason at all to need more for an RPG. I keep all my chit locked at 60 unless I'm playing a shooter. Then I'll just lock it to 100 since that's my monitors max refresh.
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