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    Originally Posted by nkiritsis13 View Post
    Nice, congrats mate!

    How are you like the 13900k? I'm clearly still waffling between that and the 7950x.
    so far I haven't had any issues with the 13900k in Win10. no plans to get win11 anytime soon.

    LOVE the processor. I built the PC right after I got back from Iceland and I had 12,000 photos and about 3 hours of 4k video to edit and this 13900k ate it up like nothing.

    this whole system feels like 2-3x what I had with my old 3080 and i9-10900k

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    so far im getting some amazing scores. top 50 in all major benchmarks
    4090 and 13900k master race

    it is suuuuchhh a big upgrade lol. it's bizarre playing games @ 4k all ultra settings and 200+ fps

    there are G9 49" 1440p 240hz monitors on sale for $750 ea right now

    really tempted to buy two
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    Thanks brah I love this combo! It’s weird playing at 4k and having fps higher than my monitor 120 refresh rate
    It’s such a beast combo

    That G9 price is really good
    Do you like the resolution?
    They are making a new one but it will be a bish to run
    I know there are some 8k ultra wides coming. Not true 8k but it’s basically duel 4k
    I think that’s what I’ll target even tho it will be hard to run
    But hey, that’s what Dlss quality is for 😎

    I highly recommend the 13900k
    The reviews measure load under cinebench r23 and then cry about watts

    But in actual games the power draw is low and it’s flat out faster than rhe 7950x
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    Are 4090s still doing the Nvidia thing where they go for sale for 30sec at a time and sell out?

    I live near a microcenter so I’ve been checking stock every now and then. Haven’t seen any yet
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    Originally Posted by Elvis.Costello View Post
    Are 4090s still doing the Nvidia thing where they go for sale for 30sec at a time and sell out?

    I live near a microcenter so I’ve been checking stock every now and then. Haven’t seen any yet
    Same - I need a couple of them. Just waiting.
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    Originally Posted by Elvis.Costello View Post
    Are 4090s still doing the Nvidia thing where they go for sale for 30sec at a time and sell out?

    I live near a microcenter so I’ve been checking stock every now and then. Haven’t seen any yet
    They aren't constantly in stock, but they're still wayyy easier to get than 3000 series cards. People aren't buying these at nearly the same rate as 3000 series cards at launch.

    Scalpers can't even get off of 4080's. They're literally returning them or selling at MSRP.

    Edit: Newegg has 4 4080's in stock at normal prices right now. (They've basically been in stock daily since launch.)

    Nvidia absolutely fked this all up bc no one wants these things lol. 2 months after 3000 series launched, you weren't getting your hands on on 3080's still.

    With the price stack they have going, they've pretty much set themselves up to not sell anything under the 4090 if the 4080 sales are anything to go off of.
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    Originally Posted by Elvis.Costello View Post
    Are 4090s still doing the Nvidia thing where they go for sale for 30sec at a time and sell out?

    I live near a microcenter so I’ve been checking stock every now and then. Haven’t seen any yet
    unfortunately yes
    i have Hotstock app any 4090 drop must be picked up in under 10 seconds. you must have it in your cart and already proceeded to checkout within 10seconds of the drop. If you manage just to get it into cart within that timeframe it will be removed as you didnt snatch it fast enough

    it will show that its still available for a full 30seconds but you will see it's really not there. its unbelievable and doesnt matter the website.

    better chance at getting it from microcenter. I was tracking daily but couldnt get any this way and i live between 2 microcenters in a large metro area

    I think the best odds are from best buy, mainly because they do local pickups.
    so people across the country cant really snatch your allocated drop to your local best buy. Thats how i got my 4090


    the 4080 is a different story but rumor mill suggests a price drop is coming in another week or 2

    https://www.hardwaretimes.com/nvidia...nch-next-week/

    if the 4080 goes to $1k... and there was a $300 gap between it and the 4070ti, does that mean the 4070ti will launch at $699??

    that would be a killer card for that price. Its as fast as a 3090ti in 4k and probably faster at 1440p. Would be the go to 1440p card for high refresh at that resolution
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    Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS View Post
    They aren't constantly in stock, but they're still wayyy easier to get than 3000 series cards. People aren't buying these at nearly the same rate as 3000 series cards at launch.

    Scalpers can't even get off of 4080's. They're literally returning them or selling at MSRP.

    Edit: Newegg has 4 4080's in stock at normal prices right now. (They've basically been in stock daily since launch.)

    Nvidia absolutely fked this all up bc no one wants these things lol. 2 months after 3000 series launched, you weren't getting your hands on on 3080's still.

    With the price stack they have going, they've pretty much set themselves up to not sell anything under the 4090 if the 4080 sales are anything to go off of.
    glad I grabbed my 4090 and 13900k on day 1. overpaid for both, but no headache of wondering if I'll ever get one.

    the 3000x releases were insane. it took months of bots and notifications before I was able to grab one
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    for me it was easier to get the 3000 series cards but that was because of Evgas system where you get in line and when its your turn you have a full day to purchase. no chasing or spamming f5.
    it was super nice


    but putting mining completely aside. the 3xxx cards were always going to be hard to get. the 1xxx cards where hugely popular and the 20 series didnt provide much in the way of raster gains + high prices so most people skipped.
    when the 3080 came it there was a big enough jump in performance and time to upgrade again... plus it seemed so much cheaper compared to 2080ti with the launch price of $699 so everyone was trying to get one at msrp... and the rest of the stack falling in line with decent pricing

    im actually surprised with the demand of the 4090. at $1599 minimum plus tax nvidia has far surpassed 100k units a month ago. very popular card but honestly with it being like 80% faster than the 3090 its like 2 full generations of performance increases so i can understand why
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    Originally Posted by EliteBrah View Post
    for me it was easier to get the 3000 series cards but that was because of Evgas system where you get in line and when its your turn you have a full day to purchase. no chasing or spamming f5.
    it was super nice
    Got mine the same way.

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    I have blue screen of death on my pc build

    Errors from USB to not enough space when I try to run programs like (photoshop)

    I'll have to clear out the pc of corn and let someone fix it

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    It's easy to get a 4080, my Microcenter has them right now and have had them for a bit now.

    4090s on the other hand are a pain to find at MSRP.
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    Idk how you guys are ok with spending that much on a graphics card, unless you play at crazy resolution. My 3070 can max out any game @ 3440x1440p, except cyberpunk
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    glad I grabbed my 4090 and 13900k on day 1. overpaid for both, but no headache of wondering if I'll ever get one.

    the 3000x releases were insane. it took months of bots and notifications before I was able to grab one
    But this time the 4000 series was overpriced since novideo is stuck with lots of 3000 series cards due to cryptowinter.

    It will also be fun to see how the RX 7900 cards will perform (and how their stock is).
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    what a huge flop for the 7900xtx. just finished watching some reviews

    Jays2cents actually show that it's slower than the 4080 on average. Linus specified driver issues and weird bugs.. as well a poor power management. additionally higher temperatures than the 4080 and uncomfortable room heat

    Hardware unboxed noticed huge power draw, considerably more than the 4080.

    at $1000, this is a huge flop. If you are gona spend into this price class it better have all the bells and whistles
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    Idk how you guys are ok with spending that much on a graphics card, unless you play at crazy resolution. My 3070 can max out any game @ 3440x1440p, except cyberpunk
    48" LG C1 OLED 4k, I need the 4090 to run games with minimum slowdown my 3090 takes a ****.
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    48" LG C1 OLED 4k, I need the 4090 to run games with minimum slowdown my 3090 takes a ****.
    48" LG c1 as well

    My 3080 12gb cannot run games at 120fps 4k unless I use DLSS balanced/performance and lower settings

    Forget about Ray tracing unless I lock down to 60fps

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    what a huge flop for the 7900xtx. just finished watching some reviews

    Jays2cents actually show that it's slower than the 4080 on average. Linus specified driver issues and weird bugs.. as well a poor power management. additionally higher temperatures than the 4080 and uncomfortable room heat

    Hardware unboxed noticed huge power draw, considerably more than the 4080.

    at $1000, this is a huge flop. If you are gona spend into this price class it better have all the bells and whistles
    I watched those videos too and it seems like your take goes against the majority of their conclusions.

    Slightly better in Raster than 4080. RT performance between 3090 and 3090ti and ~20ish percent worse than 4080 in RT.

    My Take:
    7900xtx -> should have kept the "XT" and $1000 is fair, but I wouldn't spend much more on a partner model.
    7900xt -> should have been 7800xt for $750-800
    This would allow for a 7700xt with around 3090 performance for $600
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    what a huge flop for the 7900xtx. just finished watching some reviews
    Lmao what? No one thinks this lol.

    It's better than the 4080 in most games. RT is as good as Nvidias last gen best cards (which is a massive leap for them). And it's $200 cheaper.
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    Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS View Post
    Lmao what? No one thinks this lol.

    It's better than the 4080 in most games. RT is as good as Nvidias last gen best cards (which is a massive leap for them). And it's $200 cheaper.
    I’m not considering your take as your already on amd’s dick this generation
    Didn’t you guarantee this would be within 5% of the 4090?
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    Originally Posted by Austanian View Post
    I watched those videos too and it seems like your take goes against the majority of their conclusions.

    Slightly better in Raster than 4080. RT performance between 3090 and 3090ti and ~20ish percent worse than 4080 in RT.

    My Take:
    7900xtx -> should have kept the "XT" and $1000 is fair, but I wouldn't spend much more on a partner model.
    7900xt -> should have been 7800xt for $750-800
    This would allow for a 7700xt with around 3090 performance for $600
    Here’s the problem
    Being cheaper than a bad priced card doesn’t make it good,
    Just not as poorly priced. Overall it seems like 200 cheaper is needed just for parity with the 4080 when you consider feature set, software, bugs, raytracing/Dlss
    That’s at the same performance

    The mood is bad tho look at the comments in those reviews
    Maybe people would be higher on this card if AMD didn’t intentionally mislead everyone with “50-70%” claims when in reality it’s only 35% faster than the 6950

    I don’t think either of the cards are priced where they should be
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    Originally Posted by TugOfPeace View Post
    Idk how you guys are ok with spending that much on a graphics card, unless you play at crazy resolution. My 3070 can max out any game @ 3440x1440p, except cyberpunk
    "that much" is all relative. when I built my first PC in college, the entire thing cost less than my 4090 - and I was running 4k resolution back then (6+ years ago)

    now that I have a real job, $1600 is pretty cheap especially compared to other hobbies like cars, travel, photography, etc.

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    Originally Posted by EliteBrah View Post
    Here’s the problem
    Being cheaper than a bad priced card doesn’t make it good,
    Just not as poorly priced. Overall it seems like 200 cheaper is needed just for parity with the 4080 when you consider feature set, software, bugs, raytracing/Dlss
    That’s at the same performance

    The mood is bad tho look at the comments in those reviews
    Maybe people would be higher on this card if AMD didn’t intentionally mislead everyone with “50-70%” claims when in reality it’s only 35% faster than the 6950

    I don’t think either of the cards are priced where they should be
    The 7900xtx seems to scale pretty linearly in frames per dollar at current market prices. Not great not terrible. The 7900xt on the other hand looks pretty bad.

    Launch day drivers are never perfect with either company. Plenty of early issues with the 4000 series too. These are not reported as major nor wide spread. Since about Q1 2021 AMDs driver package has been very comparable to NVIDIA with more or less the same gaming experience.

    So now we are left to decided how much:
    1. RT is worth
    2. DLSS being slightly better than FSR
    3. How each perform in work specific tasks.
    4. AMD being better in Linux.

    RT is largely dependent on price tier. I would argue RT below a 3080 is virtually worthless. However, if you are spending $1000+ on a card it may be worth something to you.
    DLSS is slightly better than FSR, but the latest version seems very comparable.
    Certain tasks want CUDA cores. IF your work needs it. You better be getting NVIDIA.
    Then again if you have a linux computer for some reason you should favor AMD.

    I don't think NVIDIA's better feature set is worth 20% though if you do production it might be for you.

    For me to upgrade from my 3070 I need 3090 performance at $500.
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    Just bought all the parts for a new PC build boyos. Haven't done one since 2013 so I am stoked about the massive leap in performance i am about to get.

    I've still got the 1080 monitor for now, but my next step will be a 1440 (4k maybe?) 144+hz monitor and a beefier graphics cars when they come down a bit in price. I spent a decent chunk, but went small on a graphics card (clear gaming bottleneck) as i know i am going to go big on one in the future.

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    Originally Posted by Ayz33 View Post
    Just bought all the parts for a new PC build boyos. Haven't done one since 2013 so I am stoked about the massive leap in performance i am about to get.

    I've still got the 1080 monitor for now, but my next step will be a 1440 (4k maybe?) 144+hz monitor and a beefier graphics cars when they come down a bit in price. I spent a decent chunk, but went small on a graphics card (clear gaming bottleneck) as i know i am going to go big on one in the future.

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    Ultrawide is goat. If I was shopping for a new monitor I'd be looking/waiting for the newer ultrawide oled monitors to start popping up and going on sale. There's a few out already, I think Alienware has a 34" ultrawide oled for $1200ish.

    Depending on your budget there's quite a few new sweet ass monitors out these days. Start watching YouTube reviews srs
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    Either you like ultrawide or you don't (with 1440px height).
    I don't personally like it, I find their physical height ridiculous.

    I prefer the physical area of monitors with 2560x1440 resolution, both 27 and 32 inches.
    If I were to consider a ultrawide monitor it would need to have 1600px height atleast.
    That's unfortunate given the two (3 if you count the new version of the Alienware 34" OLED) ultrawide OLEDs released so far. LG 27" 1440p OLED 240 Hz on the horizon (to be released this month).
    Currently rocking a 1080p 360Hz monitor for my CSGO needs. Also got a few monitors I use for work with 2560x1440, one of them a 32" 165Hz Dell. The 2560x1440 165Hz monitors are a dime a dozen and you can pick them up for 200-300 bucks.
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    Originally Posted by Ayz33 View Post
    Just bought all the parts for a new PC build boyos. Haven't done one since 2013 so I am stoked about the massive leap in performance i am about to get.

    I've still got the 1080 monitor for now, but my next step will be a 1440 (4k maybe?) 144+hz monitor and a beefier graphics cars when they come down a bit in price. I spent a decent chunk, but went small on a graphics card (clear gaming bottleneck) as i know i am going to go big on one in the future.

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    Have you guys tried out different monitor types yet? Ultrawide's or OLED's? I haven't done a whole lot of research there yet.
    Congrats on the new setup! I've tried a lot of the "best" monitors out there, at least the large ones anyways.

    The smallest setup I could ever go back to would be 3 27" monitors. otherwise I prefer 34", 40", 49", etc.

    For FPS gaming, 32:9 aspect ratio ultrawide is a must for me now. For MMORPG or solo type stuff, I'd probably go 40-50" OLED
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    Should I be upgrading my ram? I've got 16 gb currently .... Is it worth it getting 32? Only thing I really do is just game on the pc.
    Meh, not unless you are having issues or run a ton of chit. Or if you just wanna drop some money for no serious gains then go for it lol. to be fair in the future I will always put at least 32gb on mine, but I do some photoshop work.


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    Should I be upgrading my ram? I've got 16 gb currently .... Is it worth it getting 32? Only thing I really do is just game on the pc.
    Doesn't really matter for gaming tbh. I don't think I've ever used more than 15gb doing anything, and that's counting windows using up 7gb to launch programs faster.
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