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    Sup boyos, was looking into only a GPU update but my build is 5 years old....so considering a new rig now.

    Do you guys sell your old components, and is it worth the hassle? I usually just scrapped my rigs - which are mid-range at best at the time I make them.

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    Originally Posted by CaliSuperSport View Post
    Sup boyos, was looking into only a GPU update but my build is 5 years old....so considering a new rig now.

    Do you guys sell your old components, and is it worth the hassle? I usually just scrapped my rigs - which are mid-range at best at the time I make them.

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    It looks like people do well with local sales. It can't hurt to try Ebay though. Personally I just give them to friends and family for super cheap.

    You might want to hold off until April when AMD releases Zen 2. Supposed to be affordable 16-core architecture and possibly a new chipset supporting PCIe 4?
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    Originally Posted by wings_unhinged View Post
    It looks like people do well with local sales. It can't hurt to try Ebay though. Personally I just give them to friends and family for super cheap.

    You might want to hold off until April when AMD releases Zen 2. Supposed to be affordable 16-core architecture and possibly a new chipset supporting PCIe 4?
    Ok I'll look into it. Got a Nintendo Switch so that'll hold me over.

    Luckily it looks like I can build a great PC for much less than my last build these days.
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    Hey brahs which one of these monitors should I get?

    Acer Predator XB270HU 27in FreeSync IPS 144Hz Gaming Monitor

    - already ordered this it was supposed to come this week coming on the 28/1 fuken annoyed
    - cheaper in budget
    - can cancel order if I decide to get the other
    - good reviews
    - don't need to deal with sales people anymore if I stick with this

    Acer Predator XB271HU 27" WQHD G-SYNC 2 144Hz (165Hz OC) 4MS IPS LED Gaming Monitor

    - will cost me $140 more
    - g-sync is a plus because I've got MSI GeForce RTX2070 ARMOR 8GB...I don't know if it's worth the premium though
    - stretches budget quite a bit
    - I can get it on the 10th so I can build and do everything at the same time
    - good reviews
    - need to calibrate no idea how to do that

    I also didn't include kb and mouse into my budget, but I bought them recently because they were on sale, this has left me with less money, so I've added to my budget.

    This is my first build, so I don't want to spend heaps, but I also want ample time to build and troubleshoot if needed.

    I was originally going to get a VA monitor, but I asked around and everyone said get IPS panel.
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    So ive been doing some overclocking with the 9900k. I went to 5.2GHz all cores @1.375v and ran the small pack torture test on Prime 95 for an hour and was stable.

    however, i cant finish a cinebench test it freezes up halfway. So u up'd the voltage to 1.395 with level 7 load line and it still locks up in cinebench. Except now prime 95 shoots up to 89 C.
    So i went back to play some GTA V for an hr and its stable. Kinda confused why i cant finish cinebench prob need 1.4v but it seems stable in games so going to drop the voltage
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    Originally Posted by EliteBrah View Post
    So ive been doing some overclocking with the 9900k. I went to 5.2GHz all cores @1.375v and ran the small pack torture test on Prime 95 for an hour and was stable.

    however, i cant finish a cinebench test it freezes up halfway. So u up'd the voltage to 1.395 with level 7 load line and it still locks up in cinebench. Except now prime 95 shoots up to 89 C.
    So i went back to play some GTA V for an hr and its stable. Kinda confused why i cant finish cinebench prob need 1.4v but it seems stable in games so going to drop the voltage
    I imagine Cinebench is simply a greater stress on the CPU than GTA V.
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    Yea but prime 95 for an hour wasnt a problem but 10second cinebench wasnt stable?
    Anyways i dropped to 5.1Ghz with 5.2 on first 2 cores and i dropped down the voltage as well. Happy at these levels
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    Originally Posted by EliteBrah View Post
    Yea but prime 95 for an hour wasnt a problem but 10second cinebench wasnt stable?
    Anyways i dropped to 5.1Ghz with 5.2 on first 2 cores and i dropped down the voltage as well. Happy at these levels
    Isn't Prime95 a memory test, not CPU?
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    Originally Posted by SOJA View Post
    You're thinking of MemTest86. Prime95 is good and so is IBT. Though IBT can be harsher.
    Alright, thanks.
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    When I am overclocking I first run cinebench.
    If that works satisfactory I then try to run 3DMark benches (Time Spy & Fire Strike Extreme).

    If these benchmarks complete without a hitch, then if the overclock is "large" or very different from my previous OC then I will use either AIDA or Prime95 and MemTest (https://hcidesign.com/memtest/download.html), but MemTest86 seems to be even better.

    If the OC pass these then it most likely is stable. Also doesn't hurt to fire up a game on ultra (OW, BF1, Division etc).
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    NVIDIA is going to support FreeSync monitors from 15. January.

    https://www.anandtech.com/show/13791...post0107001807

    Originally Posted by https://old.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/adens7/its_official_hell_has_frozen_over_and_nvidia_will/edgcfq0/


    There are hundreds of monitor models available capable of variable refresh rates (VRR) using the VESA DisplayPort Adaptive-Sync protocol. However, the VRR gaming experience can vary widely.

    To improve the experience for gamers, NVIDIA will test monitors. Those that pass our validation tests will be G-SYNC Compatible and enabled by default in the GeForce driver.

    G-SYNC Compatible tests will identify monitors that deliver a baseline VRR experience on GeForce RTX 20-series and GeForce GTX 10-series graphics cards, and activate their VRR features automatically.

    Support for G-SYNC Compatible monitors will begin Jan. 15 with the launch of our first 2019 Game Ready driver. Already, 12 monitors have been validated as G-SYNC Compatible (from the 400 we have tested so far). We’ll continue to test monitors and update our support list. For gamers who have monitors that we have not yet tested, or that have failed validation, we’ll give you an option to manually enable VRR, too.
    They will even give the option to manually enable VRR (FreeSync) on monitors that are not certified by NVIDIA.
    Kudos to NVIDIA for listening to its customer base (for once).
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    Originally Posted by MrJensenn View Post
    NVIDIA is going to support FreeSync monitors from 15. January.

    https://www.anandtech.com/show/13791...post0107001807



    They will even give the option to manually enable VRR (FreeSync) on monitors that are not certified by NVIDIA.
    Kudos to NVIDIA for listening to its customer base (for once).
    Sweet. My BenQ 4k HDR FreeSync panel just got interesting.
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    Originally Posted by ChackoshBrah View Post
    Hey brahs which one of these monitors should I get?

    Acer Predator XB270HU 27in FreeSync IPS 144Hz Gaming Monitor

    - already ordered this it was supposed to come this week coming on the 28/1 fuken annoyed
    - cheaper in budget
    - can cancel order if I decide to get the other
    - good reviews
    - don't need to deal with sales people anymore if I stick with this

    Acer Predator XB271HU 27" WQHD G-SYNC 2 144Hz (165Hz OC) 4MS IPS LED Gaming Monitor

    - will cost me $140 more
    - g-sync is a plus because I've got MSI GeForce RTX2070 ARMOR 8GB...I don't know if it's worth the premium though
    - stretches budget quite a bit
    - I can get it on the 10th so I can build and do everything at the same time
    - good reviews
    - need to calibrate no idea how to do that

    I also didn't include kb and mouse into my budget, but I bought them recently because they were on sale, this has left me with less money, so I've added to my budget.

    This is my first build, so I don't want to spend heaps, but I also want ample time to build and troubleshoot if needed.

    I was originally going to get a VA monitor, but I asked around and everyone said get IPS panel.
    Id get the one with Gsync. It might be good out of the box but if its not then grab a color profile online and apply it. should be close enough.

    IPS >VA
    Gsync > Vsync
    165hz > 144hz
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    Originally Posted by J1n View Post
    IPS >VA
    This is kind of subjective. IPS has better colors sure, but VA has very good color, better viewing angles, and slightly better response times. Also, no IPS Glow, and superior blacks.
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    Originally Posted by J1n View Post
    Id get the one with Gsync. It might be good out of the box but if its not then grab a color profile online and apply it. should be close enough.

    IPS >VA
    Gsync > Vsync
    165hz > 144hz
    I ended up going with the predator, I should be getting it this week or the beginning of nekk week. Asked for a better deal best he could do is $30 off, better than nothing.
    Aiight sweet I've read that I'll have to anyways with this monitor.

    Dat feel when you get a g-sync monitor and a couple hours later Nvidia releases this statement...Not changing my order this time.
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    i have the predator. it's great but i had one small issue with a line of pixels being misaligned straight down the middle of the monitor. it looks like it had to do with the GSYNC. restarting the monitor seemed to fix it; ive only noticed it once over the past 3 weeks.
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    Originally Posted by MiscMathematician View Post
    Has VA changed much? I recall viewing angles (and color) being the reason to buy IPS
    VA stands for "Vertical Alignment". The entire purpose of it is to improve viewing angles. VA Color isn't as good as IPS, but in my opinion, IPS glow tends to create a 'washed out' effect because the areas of the screen that may be effected by it tend to be more "grey" than "black".

    Now, if you can get an IPS panel with zero backlight bleed, then it's a really good experience. Since the vast majority of the time I think people tend to sit directly in front of the screen while using their PC (unless someone else is there watching you play games/watch a movie or something), viewing angles aren't really that important anyway.
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    Originally Posted by MiscMathematician View Post
    Has VA changed much? I recall viewing angles (and color) being the reason to buy IPS
    VA has the better blacks/contrast ratio. Response time isnt that great so i dont know why they are talking them up. The ips i just bought has a 4ms response time. The average VA is 4/5ms

    VA monitors are susceptible to clouding or bleeding towards the edges of the screen, this is very noticeable in gaming and the reason its not highly adopted/suitable for gaming. IPS have much better color accuracy. If there was a side by side test you would easily choose the IPS it just looks so much better. IPS have better viewing angles

    Still, the contrast while not as good as an OLED is still fantastic and a big selling point for VAs
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    I personally don't miss my IPS panel over my VA panel.
    I even find my TN panels to be decent after adjusting their colors to a satisfactory level.

    InstantLoser has covered the VA vs IPS very well.
    You have heaps of different IPS and VA panels too.
    My VA monitor is of the MVA type which is an interesting panel type (Samsung S32D850T).
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    I'm hoping there's no complications with HDR FreeSync capable monitors taking advantage of the new Nvidia support for adaptive sync. I know when they were originally doing their 144hz HDR panels that they had trouble getting GSYNC + HDR + the high refresh rates all working together. My panel is only 60hz though, with DP 1.4/USB C Gen2, so I'm hoping there's no issue with the implementation. Come January 15th, I hope to be enjoying tear-free, buttery smoothness.
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    Originally Posted by ChackoshBrah View Post
    Hey brahs which one of these monitors should I get?

    Acer Predator XB270HU 27in FreeSync IPS 144Hz Gaming Monitor

    - already ordered this it was supposed to come this week coming on the 28/1 fuken annoyed
    - cheaper in budget
    - can cancel order if I decide to get the other
    - good reviews
    - don't need to deal with sales people anymore if I stick with this

    Acer Predator XB271HU 27" WQHD G-SYNC 2 144Hz (165Hz OC) 4MS IPS LED Gaming Monitor

    - will cost me $140 more
    - g-sync is a plus because I've got MSI GeForce RTX2070 ARMOR 8GB...I don't know if it's worth the premium though
    - stretches budget quite a bit
    - I can get it on the 10th so I can build and do everything at the same time
    - good reviews
    - need to calibrate no idea how to do that

    I also didn't include kb and mouse into my budget, but I bought them recently because they were on sale, this has left me with less money, so I've added to my budget.

    This is my first build, so I don't want to spend heaps, but I also want ample time to build and troubleshoot if needed.

    I was originally going to get a VA monitor, but I asked around and everyone said get IPS panel.
    The Gsync is worth it. I have the same monitor. Did not have to calibrate anything out of the box. Only thing I did was OC it to 165hz through the monitor settings then apply it under Nvida settings.
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    IPS for life. pretty much cringe every time i look at the TN panel on my work monitor(s) or worse, laptop screen
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    took 3 weeks but i finally got my Ducky One tenkeyless keyboard with cherry MX browns. Replacing my K70 with cherry MX blues (novelty of loud/super clicky/65g keys wore away)



    Feels nice and compact. Just debating whether I should get a wrist rest for it now. That was one advantage the K70 had, with its built in wrist rest
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    Originally Posted by .aeterna View Post
    took 3 weeks but i finally got my Ducky One tenkeyless keyboard with cherry MX browns. Replacing my K70 with cherry MX blues (novelty of loud/super clicky/65g keys wore away)


    Feels nice and compact. Just debating whether I should get a wrist rest for it now. That was one advantage the K70 had, with its built in wrist rest
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    Originally Posted by Rawp0wer1O1 View Post
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    tempted to bring my K70 (blues) into my office
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    Originally Posted by MiscMathematician View Post
    almost everywhere I read states VA has worse viewing angles than IPS.

    e.g.

    https://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/ips-led-vs-va-lcd
    https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/1...ips-pls-va-crt
    http://4k.com/va-display-panels-vs-i...-know-19275-2/





    but i have found some stating the opposite too:

    https://www.wepc.com/tips/tn-ips-va-gaming/

    edit: \nvm, even above article states this too.

    idk anymore. but i love my VA tvs.
    Weird. I always thought the whole point of VA was superior viewing angles.

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    so IPS is king. feels good mane
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    Originally Posted by .aeterna View Post
    i have the predator. it's great but i had one small issue with a line of pixels being misaligned straight down the middle of the monitor. it looks like it had to do with the GSYNC. restarting the monitor seemed to fix it; ive only noticed it once over the past 3 weeks.
    Oh damm good thing restarting it did the trick. I hope i don't have issues because dealing with acer warranty is painful, apparently.

    Originally Posted by eXistenceLies View Post
    The Gsync is worth it. I have the same monitor. Did not have to calibrate anything out of the box. Only thing I did was OC it to 165hz through the monitor settings then apply it under Nvida settings.
    Das it mane I hope i also hit the panel lottery.

    Everything I read/watched stated IPS has the best viewing angles and colour reproduction which will give you the most buiriful experience.
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