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10-16-2018, 07:18 AM #271
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10-21-2018, 07:08 AM #272
This is an interesting and informative post. It is true that creatine is very important in generating cellular energy. When it gets depleted it can be recharged by CP. This is why creatine is an important compound for athletes or anyone who wants to engage in explosive activities. Bodybuilders and weightlifters will find creatine useful because it increases protein synthesis and cell hydration. It is one of the compounds that increase endurance which is ideal for swimmers. Long distance runners need plenty of creatine to improve their endurance and so forth. I will keep checking your posts to learn more. Thanks.
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10-25-2018, 10:32 AM #273
This is not new news (that CEE converts to creatinine) but interesting case study with someone with kidney transplants. It also confirms, even in this situation, elevated creatinine may be an indicator of kidney dysfunction, it's not a cause (is non toxic to kidneys) and more accurate tests for kidney dysfunction, even in a person who'd had a transplant, support that. Lesson is, CEE is still garbage and converts to creatinine like a mo fo, high creatinine does not negatively impact kidney dysfunction, stick to CM.
There's statements in the abstract that's perplexing like "CM is poorly absorbed and does not affect creatinine." Maybe just a poor choice of words on their part as it's not correct... CEE's effects on creatinine well established so not surprising it had same effects in this case study of renal transplant. (1)
Elevation of serum creatinine in a renal transplant patient following oral creatine supplementation
Abstract
We report the case of a renal transplant recipient presenting with elevated serum creatinine levels whilst taking oral creatine ethyl ester (CEE), but not creatine monohydrate (CM). Standard investigations for allograft dysfunction, including Doppler ultrasound and renal biopsy, were normal. Serum creatinine normalized following cessation of the supplement. CM is poorly absorbed and does not affect creatinine. In contrast, CEE is converted and absorbed as creatinine, elevating serum levels. In such cases, creatinine is not a valid surrogate for glomerular filtration rate (GFR). Alternate methods of GFR measurement should be considered and a rigorous clinical and drug history taken.
Full paper:
https://academic.oup.com/ckj/advance...uC6yAtozZ6cBiw
(1) Prior study on CEE and effects on creatinine levels:
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10-26-2018, 12:36 PM #274
I bought ON Micronized Creatine Monohydrate Powder two days ago. I'm 47 and just back into lifting 2 years ago after a 15 year layoff of being a long distance runner. Now I run less and lift more. I used to lift a lot in my 20's. I have made good gains within the last 2 years, 155 as runner, now I'm at 185 mostly muscle gain.
My point is this my first time ever trying Creatine, and I'm a bit nervous to be honest. I do very well just with eating food and taking Whey. I'm not a big believer in most supplements. So let's see if this Creatine works. I have only taken it for 2 days so far, 5 grams and no more. I NEVER get headaches and last night I felt a slight one that came and went. Creatine affect? Who knows.
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10-27-2018, 05:10 AM #275
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10-27-2018, 05:22 AM #276
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10-27-2018, 10:55 AM #277
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10-29-2018, 07:07 AM #278
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11-01-2018, 06:54 AM #279
Because creatine retain water in the muscles, therefore when you cut, you don't want you body to hold any unnecessary water.
Now, should you stop taking creatine if you cut?
-Yes, if you cutting around 6-8% bodyfat, and have a large amount of muscle mass already.
-No, if anything else.
Creatinge makes you bigger and stronger, during cut the last thing you want to see is your muscles getting smaller, while it is inevitable creatine helps to maintain some strength and size, so don't stop taking it.
Although it could help if after 4-6 months of use, stop for 1-3 months then start again, just to see results agani.
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11-01-2018, 12:37 PM #280
By your own answers, you should realize there's no reason to stop creatine during a cut, the h20 is intra cellular. Yes, that guy (Shawn P) was taking plenty of creatine right up to that shoot:
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11-12-2018, 04:58 AM #281
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11-12-2018, 05:16 AM #282
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11-16-2018, 08:29 PM #283
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11-19-2018, 03:08 PM #284
Interesting review on creatine in clinical oncology, and various aging/clinical populations:
The potential therapeutic effects of creatine supplementation on body composition and muscle function in cancer
Highlights
•Muscle loss in cancer has profound physical and psychological impacts.
•Creatine has been shown to enhance muscle mass in clinical populations.
•Individuals at increased risk of muscle loss may benefit the most from creatine.
Abstract
Low muscle mass in individuals with cancer has a profound impact on quality of life and independence and is associated with greater treatment toxicity and poorer prognosis. Exercise interventions are regularly being investigated as a means to ameliorate treatment-related adverse effects, and nutritional/supplementation strategies to augment adaptations to exercise are highly valuable. Creatine (Cr) is a naturally-occurring substance in the human body that plays a critical role in energy provision during muscle contraction. Given the beneficial effects of Cr supplementation on lean body mass, strength, and physical function in a variety of clinical populations, there is therapeutic potential in individuals with cancer at heightened risk for muscle loss. Here, we provide an overview of Cr physiology, summarize the evidence on the use of Cr supplementation in various aging/clinical populations, explore mechanisms of action, and provide perspectives on the potential therapeutic role of Cr in the exercise oncology setting.
Source:
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11-22-2018, 10:05 AM #285
@WillBrink What about the 0.03 grams per kg of bodyweight rule; a 181lb/82.3kg guy would take 2.5g a day by that standard. The reason I ask is not 'coz I'm afraid of taking too much, but if I only need like 2g a day to get the benefit, then I'll happily save my money by taking less creatine per day.
Side note: The creatine supplement I take tastes like correctly sweetened strawberry Kool-Aid, I love it
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11-22-2018, 10:30 AM #286
Just KISS and do 3-5g per day. CM is dirt cheap as it is, so really a moot issue at this point. There does not appear to be any negatives of taking a tad more than you require to get full saturation levels (other than the pennies spent), but there's obviously downsides to not taking enough.
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11-22-2018, 12:02 PM #287
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11-26-2018, 01:56 PM #288
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11-29-2018, 10:11 AM #289
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11-29-2018, 01:23 PM #290
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12-04-2018, 04:08 PM #291
Hi WillBrink. I have taken Creapur in the past and I'm definitely a responder. I just wanted to ask something that I really didn't see answered yet. The ON Micronized Creatine says you only need 64oz of water a day while taking if I can remember correctly. I've read alot of posts of people saying they drink 1 to 2 gallons of water a day while supplementing Creative. What's your take on the fluid intake when supplementing with this? By the way, very informative post. Thanks!
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12-04-2018, 04:27 PM #292
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12-04-2018, 04:38 PM #293
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12-05-2018, 06:14 AM #294
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12-08-2018, 12:03 AM #295
Hello
I want to take creatine for many months in a row, for example 10 months on and one month off but i guess i must take smaller amount per day. If i take 3g per day for so many months is safe?or i can take 4 or 5 also? My weight is 75 kg and 183 cm or 6 ft tall.
Also is better to take half dosage before practise and the other half after or take it all dosage before?Last edited by nikcrf; 12-08-2018 at 02:14 AM.
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12-11-2018, 03:08 PM #296
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12-12-2018, 03:18 PM #297
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12-12-2018, 03:20 PM #298
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12-30-2018, 11:52 AM #299
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