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    Originally Posted by brahskimoseph View Post
    42k of capital all told
    Sounds like G4P the only solution at this point.



    Not srs take everything you have gather up $42k and a 9mm and go to Vegas. All on 1-12 on the roulette wheel for 1 spin. Either walk out with $126k or don't walk out at all.


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    Originally Posted by RobParks2M View Post
    Sounds like G4P the only solution at this point.



    Not srs take everything you have gather up $42k and a 9mm and go to Vegas. All on 1-12 on the roulette wheel for 1 spin. Either walk out with $126k or don't walk out at all.


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    Wheres the fun in that brah when options o XOM went up 5800% a few weeks back? Cmon bro think logically, smh
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    Originally Posted by brahskimoseph View Post
    Wheres the fun in that brah when options o XOM went up 5800% a few weeks back? Cmon bro think logically, smh

    ayyyy das it see you are already back on track.
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    Originally Posted by brahskimoseph View Post
    Chit man. I busted my ass for 5 years(redshirt) and destroyed my body to pay for college, risk my freedom for years, worked 60+ hours a week, all for jack fukin chit. It would be easier if this was stolen from me or something, cuz the worst part is its only me to blame. I cant fukin think straight. Never been this low in my life, and Ive been low as fuk before. Even if I worked and somehow saved every fuking penny for the next year, I still wouldnt have anywhere near as much as I did. What the fuk is wrong with me.
    you should read Market Wizards (1989 version). a lot of the traders in that book who went on to become multi-millionaires/billionaires started off by literally wiping out their accounts. all these guys eventually succeeded because of the learnings they took from that initial loss. most of it came down to proper risk management and defiance to giving up. keep your head up bruh. the market is always full of opportunities to regain that lost capital.
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    I agree Market Wizards and the sequel are great because its observations from the trading winners.

    FYI...I was a block trader on Wall Street out of college. I executed block orders for giant funds and did a good job. I was Surrounded by smart people but didn't practice any wisdom with my own account. I traded naked options and lost all my money over and over again. It took 4 or 5 years to kick that habit. Since then I've been an investor (not a trader) and I've done well (or been lucky).

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    Originally Posted by bostonbro View Post
    I agree Market Wizards and the sequel are great because its observations from the trading winners.

    FYI...I was a block trader on Wall Street out of college. I executed block orders for giant funds and did a good job. I was Surrounded by smart people but didn't practice any wisdom with my own account. I traded naked options and lost all my money over and over again. It took 4 or 5 years to kick that habit. Since then I've been an investor (not a trader) and I've done well (or been lucky).

    My two rules: Rule 1- don't trade naked options. Rule 2- don't forget Rule 1.

    Welp finally took some money outta my account for the first time to purchase a new (to me) toy cash. Anyone that's been here for a few years probably is aware I started with like $1,000 and added $1,000 x2 once 2 years in a row awhile back. Account got up to close to $20,000 at the peak when I had several very successful options calls in a row. Taking a little under half the account value to fund my purchase and I'm very happy about it. Hopefully I can manage to get my account back to the same size in a year or 2. I guess we shall see.

    For those of you who are big ballers with 100s of shares of stock does anyone find selling covered options valuable? For those of you doing it, are you selling a call and a put option for each 100 shares you own?
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    So I'm a complete newbie to trading and investing and am looking to get my feet wet into learning this stuff. I was watching a bunch of warrior trading videos on youtube today, and thought what the hell I might as well go on his site and learn more. 1000 dollars to sign up, and 200 every month after that?!?!? Hell no. Gotta be a cheaper way or place to learn.

    So are the books still linked in the opening post the go to books yall recommend for newbies? Are the investopedia courses worth the money etc? Looking for any advice about where to dive in. Thanks.

    Was looking into swing trading vs day trading. Would only have around 10k initially to play around with.
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    Originally Posted by RobParks2M View Post
    Welp finally took some money outta my account for the first time to purchase a new (to me) toy cash. Anyone that's been here for a few years probably is aware I started with like $1,000 and added $1,000 x2 once 2 years in a row awhile back. Account got up to close to $20,000 at the peak when I had several very successful options calls in a row. Taking a little under half the account value to fund my purchase and I'm very happy about it. Hopefully I can manage to get my account back to the same size in a year or 2. I guess we shall see.

    For those of you who are big ballers with 100s of shares of stock does anyone find selling covered options valuable? For those of you doing it, are you selling a call and a put option for each 100 shares you own?
    I used to just sell puts instead of flat out buying shares. It was like free money since i wanted to own shares of the stock anyway, why not get paid money to enter it?
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    Originally Posted by Unstumpable View Post
    So I'm a complete newbie to trading and investing and am looking to get my feet wet into learning this stuff. I was watching a bunch of warrior trading videos on youtube today, and thought what the hell I might as well go on his site and learn more. 1000 dollars to sign up, and 200 every month after that?!?!? Hell no. Gotta be a cheaper way or place to learn.

    So are the books still linked in the opening post the go to books yall recommend for newbies? Are the investopedia courses worth the money etc? Looking for any advice about where to dive in. Thanks.

    Was looking into swing trading vs day trading. Would only have around 10k initially to play around with.
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    Originally Posted by Venom08 View Post
    I used to just sell puts instead of flat out buying shares. It was like free money since i wanted to own shares of the stock anyway, why not get paid money to enter it?
    Makes sense. But assuming you already own the shares just do calls then??

    Also, anyone already see us going into recession mode? I've seen a lot of companies significantly scaling back jobs...you gotta figure that is going to hurt overall economy pretty soon. I've changed my 401k composition already selling my stock in KR and apple today too. Perhaps I am panicking for no reason, but I don't feel particularly positive lately.
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    Originally Posted by RobParks2M View Post
    Makes sense. But assuming you already own the shares just do calls then??

    Also, anyone already see us going into recession mode? I've seen a lot of companies significantly scaling back jobs...you gotta figure that is going to hurt overall economy pretty soon. I've changed my 401k composition already selling my stock in KR and apple today too. Perhaps I am panicking for no reason, but I don't feel particularly positive lately.
    its never a bad thing to take money off the table & KR earnings momentum socks. I think companies will start lowering expectations for earnings season which starts in 1 week. Watch the cos that miss on already modest estimates, the market will give em 25% haircuts! Recession? Maybe but here's a diff between a slow down and a recession! I vote slow down for now.
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    Welp finally took some money outta my account for the first time to purchase a new (to me) toy cash. Anyone that's been here for a few years probably is aware I started with like $1,000 and added $1,000 x2 once 2 years in a row awhile back. Account got up to close to $20,000 at the peak when I had several very successful options calls in a row. Taking a little under half the account value to fund my purchase and I'm very happy about it. Hopefully I can manage to get my account back to the same size in a year or 2. I guess we shall see.

    For those of you who are big ballers with 100s of shares of stock does anyone find selling covered options valuable? For those of you doing it, are you selling a call and a put option for each 100 shares you own?

    I don't really sell covered calls anymore. I have in the past but you really have to choose which stock you do it on wisely AND be emotionally ready for it to be called away. You don't want to sell a covered call 5 bucks above the current price and watch your stock rally 20 points and get called away. Its vomit inducing. I was in McCormick, nice boring consumer staple dividend stock, 500 shares. I thought I would be cute and sell calls and collect premium. It worked for a couple months until it rallied about 50 points. That sucked.

    There's a strategy called the wheel where you sell cash covered puts on a stock you would like to own until you get assigned. Once assigned you sell covered calls against it until it gets called away. If it is a dividend stock sometimes you can catch some distributions. I have seen people play it that way before.
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    I once got exercised on 1000 AAPL shares because I had 10 calls that, at the last second, went ITM got exercised at the ATH of $700. It procedeed to crash at the following opening and I lost a chit ton. This was September 2013.
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    I once got exercised on 1000 AAPL shares because I had 10 calls that, at the last second, went ITM got exercised at the ATH of $700. It procedeed to crash at the following opening and I lost a chit ton. This was September 2013.
    ALL $700,000 of it was on MARGIN!!!!
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    Originally Posted by RobParks2M View Post
    Welp finally took some money outta my account for the first time to purchase a new (to me) toy cash. Anyone that's been here for a few years probably is aware I started with like $1,000 and added $1,000 x2 once 2 years in a row awhile back. Account got up to close to $20,000 at the peak when I had several very successful options calls in a row. Taking a little under half the account value to fund my purchase and I'm very happy about it. Hopefully I can manage to get my account back to the same size in a year or 2. I guess we shall see.

    For those of you who are big ballers with 100s of shares of stock does anyone find selling covered options valuable? For those of you doing it, are you selling a call and a put option for each 100 shares you own?
    Had no idea about your starting capital or trading history. Gjdm what toy you buy?



    I’m convinced there is gonna be a recession/pullback in 2020 but holy fuk boys, no fees for buying shares now on TDA and a bunch of divident stonks paying 3-7%? I dunno if I can resist these urges.
    Also fuk options, never going naked again but that wheel strategy mentioned above is legit.
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    I once got exercised on 1000 AAPL shares because I had 10 calls that, at the last second, went ITM got exercised at the ATH of $700. It procedeed to crash at the following opening and I lost a chit ton. This was September 2013.
    ALL $700,000 of it was on MARGIN!!!!
    Fukkin hell, thats one thing Im glad I never did was sell options. Jesus man, how bad was the damage? Ive heard stories of it going the other way too.

    I honestly recgonize I have a gambling problem with options. I get this huge fukin surge of energy thinking about the risks and possibility, its nuts. I just cant think of any of way to get t where I was outside of waiting 2 ****ing years. Its like i lost the whole plot of everything I was doing. I wouldve been bringing in 2-3k a week scalping with 65k, instead Im looking for bartending gigs again. Its piss. I am the financial jason genova
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    **** it all. I have 8000 left. One last dance
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    **** it all. I have 8000 left. One last dance
    Bruh stop. You have a gambling problem
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    Bruh stop. You have a gambling problem
    You know what brah, youre right. Its not the first time Ive been told this since finding out options. Valhallas a lie. Blowing this would set me back 2.5 more months, maybe longer and just make more depressed than i already am, knowing how much time and stress and effort Ive expended for no financial gain. I know Im going to get these urges, I cant stop them from happening until its out of my system for a long time. I have an opportunity to rent a room for 300 a month here in april, so if I can just hold off until then, I can survive. I judt hate feeling like life is passing me by, and that Ill never been sucessful enough to warrant celebration or recognition
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    **** it all. I have 8000 left. One last dance
    Just put it all on UUP calls that expire in 2021 and GS puts which expire in 2021 too
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    Feeling more downside the next week or 2. I wish I could time a big move down, but it could happen at anytime with almost no warning. Anyone know when funds gotta start deleveraging when risk gets too high a certain volatility level mebe?
    I am getting a lot of urges to go hard into SPX puts but this market has been really punishing bears all year. Instead ive been selling SPY call spreads.
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    Kr shares were a 16% profit and apple shares sold were like 11% so happy with those. Collected some nice dividends too while holding. Will probably rebuy Kroger when they go back to 52 week lows which seems inevitable. I'll probably buy even more when they break the lows and hit $18ish depending on overall market and sentiment. Lots going on in that sector.
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    Anyone want to start a hedge fund with me? lol. I need a job though, because I can't be living off the funds in my trading acct. which I'm trying to grow into a hedge fund.
    Yisssss. Gains through the roof. We will make it a technology driven app hedgefund more accessible to modern day investors with active management more capable of executing based on our in-home algos and over 20 years combined trading experience trading everything from stocks and commodities all the way to futures and options. Best of all there are no management fees- we only collect a percentage of profits so if you don't profit neither do we!

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    Yisssss. Gains through the roof. We will make it a technology driven app hedgefund more accessible to modern day investors with active management more capable of executing based on our in-home algos and over 20 years combined trading experience trading everything from stocks and commodities all the way to futures and options. Best of all there are no management fees- we only collect a percentage of profits so if you don't profit neither do we!

    I think we can make it big bruh
    It’s gotta be off-shore though. That way the profits can cleanly be reinvested without having to pay taxes.
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