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    **OFFICIAL** Trading and Investing Thread- Part -X-

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    Started reading "Irrational Exuberance" by Robert Shiller yesterday (the guy who helped derive the CAPE ratio, aka Shiller PE).

    One of the better investment books I've read - it challenges the status quo and is backed up by historical data and surveys.

    It's a complex read, but very worthwhile.
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    This is one of those crazy rallies where current traders/managers have never experienced before. Look at the charts: The dow had massive run ups leading to 1929 and then in the 1950s. We've only gone up 3.3x from the 2009 lows. That's nothing considering we've had bull markets which rallied the value over 10x. So DJIA 60k in the next one to two decades isn't out of the realm of possibilities.


    Time Stamp 03/06/2017: BUY US SHARES, SELL BONDS. I say the DJIA will reach 32k by 2020 and there will be a massive correction in the global govt. bonds market.

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    Well I should have waited longer on TGT!

    Buying more maybe if it keeps dipping
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    Originally Posted by Barn01 View Post
    Here's a link to part IX: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=169075363
    Here's a link to part VIII:http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=164126631
    Here's a link to part VII: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=159164961
    Here's a link to part VI: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=154050541

    Welcome to the 10th edition of the Trading and Investing Thread.

    ITT, we talk about Trading a variety of securities; Stocks, Currencies, Real-estate, Lending Deals, and anything else that makes us money!!
    ITT, we also talk about strategies for retirement, savings, and finding deals.
    ITT, we also talk smack about anything and everything .... however if this gets out of hand then you will be asked to get on task or leave.

    Disclaimer
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    Investments come in many shapes and sizes and you should ONLY put real money on the line when you feel that you are ready to accept the worst case scenario. Very few investments are considered a "sure thing". ITT we understand that investments are looked at in terms of risk:reward and bring with it certain levels of probability. We try to put the odds in our favor and diversify our risk.

    Useful links:

    > http://www.google.com/finance

    > http://www.investopedia.com/

    > http://www.babypips.com/tools/forex-calendar/

    > http://www.sec.gov/edgar/searchedgar/companysearch.html

    > http://www.marketwatch.com/

    For those that are about to ask ... HOW/WHERE CAN I LEARN THIS STUFF? Follow these links to books that could change your life.

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    Why did you randomly make a new thread?

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    Originally Posted by Venom08 View Post
    This is one of those crazy rallies where current traders/managers have never experienced before. Look at the charts: The dow had massive run ups leading to 1929 and then in the 1950s. We've only gone up 3.3x from the 2009 lows. That's nothing considering we've had bull markets which rallied the value over 10x. So DJIA 60k in the next one to two decades isn't out of the realm of possibilities.


    Time Stamp 03/06/2017: BUY US SHARES, SELL BONDS. I say the DJIA will reach 32k by 2020 and there will be a massive correction in the global govt. bonds market.

    With the new thread - why not, I'll join you in giving a 2020 prediction. Not quite as optimistic though, I'm going to say the Dow will be hovering around 20k at 2020.

    Main reasons are that interest rates will be in the 3-4% range by then, meaning that new bonds will be more attractive and the money supply will be tighter.

    Also the election hype will have died down and stocks will trade less on speculation. Lastly, U.S. GDP as a percentage of the world hit its peak in 1950 (28%) and has been declining since as emerging markets caught up which can indirectly influence stock prices.

    I do expect the U.S. to become more competitive as regulations are relaxed and GDP to grow faster than 2%, but not to the point where earnings catch up to its current unusually high valuation. There will be corrections (whether numerous in amounts or one significant one) that bring the market down to average valuation levels within the next few years, which is about 20k in 2020.
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    ^Foreign capital inflows will be a main driver for the rally. The USA will be seen as the safe haven of the world so the US$ will rise, US market shares will rise, and gold and interest rates will rise.

    The Euro will probably be extinct by 2022 and the EU will be gone.

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    Well I should have waited longer on TGT!

    Buying more maybe if it keeps dipping
    bought at 58.25, will probably buy more if it drops below 50

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    Originally Posted by thetrebel View Post
    Where my real margin callers at?


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    bought at 58.25, will probably buy more if it drops below 50
    In @ 57.80....

    Should have known. chit always seem to dip for a solid week after a hit like that.
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    Originally Posted by RobParks2M View Post
    Can you say you were/are a real trader if you haven't leveraged x50 and sweat bullets on an overnight hold?


    Boy I gambled my life savings trading 50x on the fx market for one year

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    Originally Posted by LoadedWraps View Post
    Why did you randomly make a new thread?

    Is there a post limit? I don't see why we aren't on the original thread to be honest. It's not like market data/discussion ever becomes "irrelevant", it just becomes historical.


    Theres a post limit goofy
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    if SNAP puts in another 2 red days or so, I am a buyer.

    Seeing a lot of people claiming victory and **** already, too much attention on this, it won't die yet.

    Won't fizzle out all the way until it traps enough people up higher. IPO first 3 days was round 1, more rounds coming.

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    if SNAP puts in another 2 red days or so, I am a buyer.

    Seeing a lot of people claiming victory and **** already, too much attention on this, it won't die yet.

    Won't fizzle out all the way until it traps enough people up higher. IPO first 3 days was round 1, more rounds coming.
    surprised you lost $ and bailed on GDX so quick. How much you put in?

    How much snap you going to buy on the dip?
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    Would kick the tires on SNAP around 16-17. Shorts will go nuts with it as soon as it's shortable which I believe is tomorrow then you'll probably see a squeeze of some sort.

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    Originally Posted by WhAtNoWbChSs View Post
    surprised you lost $ and bailed on GDX so quick. How much you put in?

    How much snap you going to buy on the dip?
    I can always buy back in.

    why hold it if I feel like more weakness is coming in the short term

    edit: relong this morning on 21.30hold
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    Originally Posted by GabrielNovar View Post
    In....Snap 100k shares on margin. Y O L O
    In on SNAP... da moon

    disregard fundamentals, acquire btfd mentality

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    Originally Posted by GabrielNovar View Post
    In....Snap 100k shares on margin. Y O L O
    Sorry about your millions

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    disregard fundamentals, acquire btfd mentality
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    Anyone been eyeing any international opportunities?

    And completely got out of my TSLA trade. Got it at $194 out at $250.

    Pre-tax annualized return of about 115%.

    If TSLA gets in the $200 range I'll buy again with a price target of $265, selling half my shares.
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    Originally Posted by ReyDelMundo View Post
    Anyone been eyeing any international opportunities?

    And completely got out of my TSLA trade. Got it at $194 out at $250.

    Pre-tax annualized return of about 115%.

    If TSLA gets in the $200 range I'll buy again with a price target of $265, selling half my shares.

    usd/mxn is a sure thing

    the spread is ****ed tho and now they have changed the leverage
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    SNAP at $20

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    another red day ill buy it $15

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