I would get help for this problem first before worry about a little belly fat. I am afraid I am not medically trained to offer further advice into these mental health issues therefore speaking to a professional would be advise (if you are well done and hopefully progress will be made). Likewise it might be useful to discuss issues of body image with a professional as well they may offer better individual advice.
Good luck.
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12-27-2019, 12:35 PM #7231
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12-28-2019, 08:17 AM #7232
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12-28-2019, 02:32 PM #7233
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12-29-2019, 10:08 PM #7234
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12-30-2019, 10:54 AM #7235
Over the last three years, I have gone from 270 lbs to 173 lbs as a 6'1 guy (21 y/o). Since the beginning of September I have taken weight lifting seriously in an attempt to build muscle onto my frame.
While I have been cutting this whole time, I'm guessing that sometime in the near future I will need to start bulking. I read that aiming for around a 10% bodyfat is the right place to begin a bulk and was wondering if I could get some sort of estimate as to my bf% progress or any advice on how to best improve my physique from here.
Thank you very much for any help.
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12-30-2019, 12:07 PM #7236
I would say about 15%. Forget going to 10% and start your lean bulk soon. You don't have enough lean body mass to go that low you will look very skinny. You don't need to get to 10% that is more for trained individuals who want to look defined most of the year around. If you aim to add around 1-2lbs a month with a small caloric surplus whilst follow a decent training program you should build mainly muscle.
About 24-25%. You are looking at cutting around 30lbs IMO
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01-01-2020, 07:01 PM #7237
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01-02-2020, 08:10 AM #7238
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01-02-2020, 09:00 AM #7239
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01-02-2020, 01:26 PM #7240
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01-02-2020, 01:40 PM #7241
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01-02-2020, 02:04 PM #7242
You will start to see a number of things:-
- Core will become noticeable unlikely to see any abs but outline of core will be present
- Hip divide will start to form
- Arm veins start to appear
- Side fat becomes less predominate
- Tricep muscle is noticeable
Their is other things but these are more affected by genetics more so can be misleading on some individuals
The bf% estimate I gave to the individual above you is around 17-18% so compare his images and you should notice some differences.
Hope that helps.
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01-02-2020, 03:42 PM #7243
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01-04-2020, 07:55 AM #7244
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01-04-2020, 08:06 AM #7245
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01-04-2020, 12:59 PM #7246
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01-04-2020, 03:29 PM #7247
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01-05-2020, 01:37 AM #7248
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01-05-2020, 02:31 AM #7249
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01-05-2020, 02:49 AM #7250
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01-05-2020, 01:11 PM #7251
You should train at maintenance TDEE or slightly less (300-500 calories) and follow a decent weight training program I advise this one:-
https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showt...post1266579371
At this stage there is no need to pick either bulking or cutting, you need to be consistent with weight training for aesthetics.
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01-07-2020, 05:35 PM #7252
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01-08-2020, 03:51 AM #7253
Ummm that really is no help being fully clothed, blurred image, angle of the image and many other problems.
I will take a wild guess due to the physical structure of the image. You legs seem lean (although in leggings are difficult to tell) so the average female size I would say 25-26%.
Height and weight at the time would help.
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01-08-2020, 08:38 AM #7254
5ft 6, 63.6kg (140lbs), 22 M
https: // imgur . com/a/icFW4A6 (all pics are relaxed, right after waking up)
I've literally made zero progress in the past year, and I'm really fed up.
What's my current body fat % ? I'm guessing it's about 15%.
My goal is to build as much muscle as possible (maybe an end goal of about 150lbs body weight at 10% body fat, if thats reasonable) and to get a decent bench press (currently 65kg for 7 reps which is godawful considering I've been training for over 2 years now). What's the quickest way to my goal, given my current physique? Bulk or cut, or recomp?
Last week I started a fairly aggressive cut (750 cal deficit) and I was planning on doing that for a month to try and get my body fat to close to 10% so I could start a bulk at the bottom of that magical 10-15% range but I wanted to get some feedback from experienced people. I've wasted so much time and I really don't want to waste anymore.
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01-08-2020, 08:57 AM #7255
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01-08-2020, 10:37 AM #7256
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That OP.
You a lower then 15% more like 12-13%.
You need to get on a balanced workout program whilst consuming to begin with maintenance TDEE calories and then start adding around 200-300 calories above this after around a month or when you can no longer progress at the gym.
Cutting IMO is out of the equation and time to add some weight on. I would say around 1lb a month would ensure fat gains are at there minimum and mainly muscle is built.
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01-08-2020, 11:13 AM #7257
Thanks for the input both of you. I have a few extra questions:
Do I not need to get down to 10% for the best muscle:fat gain ratio? Whenever I search around online, I keep seeing the "cut to 10%, bulk to 15%" recommendation pop up. If I'm 13% then that would mean I've only got 2% body fat to gain before i'm at the cutoff point.
What is the reasoning behind eating at maintenance for a month? I don't have an issue with that, I'm just curious as to why. I'm perfectly content to eat at maintenance or bulk slowly because I really hate cutting (as i'm sure most people do). I just want to take the best course of action to reach my goal as quick as possible.
Also would there be any difference between the two scenarios you mentioned: eating at maintenance until performance stalls or gaining 1lb/month?
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01-08-2020, 11:24 AM #7258
Getting down to 10% might be just a guide, although 10% is pretty damn lean and not a particularly good look if you don't have a great deal of muscle to begin with. If you keep cutting you will just look skinnier and skinnier and nothing good will come from it, apart from wasting time (you said yourself you've made no progress in 12 months which means you've already wasted a year).
The reason for eating at maintenance for a month, amongst other things, is so you can figure out what your maintenance actually is. It's hit and miss, so you don't want to just increase calories by say 1,000 and overshoot the mark. So estimate what your maintenance is, start there for a while and then adjust calories either way depending on how much you gain (or don't gain, as the case may be).
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01-08-2020, 11:33 AM #7259
No cutting to 10% is just an arbitrary number that is thrown around by professionals based on two things:-
- You can look leaner for longer when you have the mass aka six pack look
- 10% is kinda the lower level you should aim for as lower then that your hormones are more prone to add fat instead of lean mass. Therefore technically on paper its the longest period you can go before hitting another arbitrary number 15% but again this is due to the showing that below 15% bf produces the optimal hormones for growth but that said the research is quite lacking and again its optimal not essential as you will still build muscle at higher bf%
This kinda explains it:-
https://bodyrecomposition.com/muscle...-changes.html/
What is the reasoning behind eating at maintenance for a month? I don't have an issue with that, I'm just curious as to why. I'm perfectly content to eat at maintenance or bulk slowly because I really hate cutting (as i'm sure most people do). I just want to take the best course of action to reach my goal as quick as possible.
https://bodyrecomposition.com/fat-lo...-gaining.html/
Also would there be any difference between the two scenarios you mentioned: eating at maintenance until performance stalls or gaining 1lb/month?
The second one means you plan to increase weight every month by 1lb no matter what happens at the gym.
Both are effective it depends how honest you are to yourself and if you are concerned by small amounts of fat gains. The second option technically will offer better growth potential but also has the higher risk of fat increase as you are trying to force growth through eating more and not solely through weight training as the first does.
Like I said both option I stated are strict methods of maintaining leanness and neither will cause significant weight gain but that depends if you adhere to the 1lb rule and don't take it faster as that leads to greater fat gains.
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01-08-2020, 01:06 PM #7260
Thanks for taking the time to write all that, it’s a big help.
If I bulk very slowly like you suggest, is it possible that I won’t even have to ever do a dedicated cut for an extended period of time ?(I’m never gonna compete in physique shows so I doubt I’ll ever want to go below 10% body fat). So in a way I basically can just be permanently recomping if you know what I mean?
Ive got my training sorted out now (it’s been a mess this past year) so I’ll do everything you suggested regarding nutrition and I can now put this past year behind me and focus on putting on some muscle.
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