how do you feel about the trend of claiming a mental illness?
in one of my classes prof brought up this statistic about 8/10 US students claiming some type of mental illness
I call BS. I think this is just a result of an attention seeking generation and us having to have a scientific/medical term for everything
I'll admit I may be biased since I've always thought of mental illness in most cases as a indicator of a weak person until I've been exposed to stories, documentaries, ted talks etc on the subject.
but i'm still skeptical of people who tell me they suffer from depression or anxiety, people i know well who have a good home and most of their stress coming from school / relationships. At what point do we just tell people to suck it the fuk up
so those who have legitimate mental health issues, how do you feel about this mental illness sweepstakes that's in with millennials?
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02-02-2017, 09:08 AM #1
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For those who claim to have mental health issues...
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02-02-2017, 09:16 AM #2
It's just a reflection of this "educated"generation and their need to label everything asap. A real diagnosis takes a while, and would probably require more than one expert giving their opinion. Mental Illness and the Word genius are two words thrown around too lightly nowadays. Everyone thinks they're some kind of psychology expert because they took two classes in community college
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02-02-2017, 09:16 AM #3
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02-02-2017, 09:26 AM #8
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02-02-2017, 09:28 AM #9
I think a lot of people in my(and younger) generation claim mental illness(anxiety/add/bipolar) without being ACTUALLY diagnosed as a way to defer their responsibility of their shortcomings. In actuality all it does is condescend those who actually suffer from these disorders.
With that said, I would definitely claim ADHD if I could get a prescription for ********.
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02-02-2017, 09:28 AM #10
Never been to a shrink, totally sane as far as I know. Pisses me off to no end.
Can't tell you how many girls I nexted due to them being on medication for depression/anxiety....
I'm not risking my guns by dating someone with a documented history of mental illness. I also want no part of passing on your chit tier, mentally weak genetics.
I feel like my mom, sister, and gf are the only girls I know who aren't on something.*MFCi*
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02-02-2017, 09:28 AM #11
Strong points OP.
We live in an over medicated society and sheeple who want to blame their character defects on something out of their control...IE its a medical condition. Part of this is because of big pharma. You go see a doc, he asks you 20 vague questions, barely looks you in the eye, and writes two scripts that make your problem even worse. A bandaid over the condition.
In real life though, we are suppose to work through these character defects and progress as a person. A simple example is, you're depressed and 15 lbs overweight. Exercise everyday, eat natural and healthy, get outside, be with friends, read inspirational literature, and see me in 3 months... Guaranteed she/he is not depressed after 3 months when a pill wouldnt have done shiet. Rant over.
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02-02-2017, 09:33 AM #12
society is filled with special snowflakes now. Kids that never got a good belting, wood spooning or switching don't know what happens in life when you make a mistake...a pill cannot fix someone from doing stupid chit, seems more of an excuse to be honest. After being bored and watching a few of those depressed bloggers on YT its a joke.
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02-02-2017, 09:35 AM #13
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02-02-2017, 09:39 AM #14
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When I was younger I used to act out in class etc. The teacher thought I might have ADD and suggested I should go to a doctor to get ritalin or whatever. My mom was like "**** that, ill just raise him instead of letting a pill do it" and it worked. I was just a very high energy, all over the place kid. My mom found ways to get me to focus or whatever and it has carried over as an adult. I mean, my mind is all over the place still, but it allows me to multitask extremely well.
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02-02-2017, 09:44 AM #15
Mental disorders DO exist, but I agree that many people claim mental illness without actually being diagnosed. Also, it is SO easy to go to the doc and get a prescription for depression and anxiety. Bipolar is interesting because it CAN cause distress, dysfunction, cause harm to others, etc., but the number of people claiming to have bipolar is laughable. I personally know around 10 people that claim to be bipolar. The real percentage of the population with the disorder is 1%.
If you have never lived with a mental illness, congratulations. Like I said, I do agree with the idea that many people claim to have a mental illness without actually being diagnosed, but to say that they do no exist is insane and ignorant.
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02-02-2017, 09:45 AM #16
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As someone who is diagnosed with bipolar disorder, depression and ADHD, it pisses me off. I hate the whole "suck it up" mentality too. However when a person with a legit mental illness tells you to suck it up, then you know you're just a whiny bitch.
I also think that the idea of "but you have such a good life, why are you depressed?" kind of mentality is ****ed up and I despise people who say that ****.
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02-02-2017, 09:46 AM #17
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02-02-2017, 09:58 AM #18
It's hard to blame them when doctors are completely legitimizing this frenzy by diagnosing and pill pushing as hard as they can.
I can believe that 8/10 students have some kind of mental illness like anxiety or depression; however, I do not believe, in my completely unprofessional opinion, that 8/10 of them need or should be on medication to correct it.
When you consider in that the average person is just an inactive rotter glued to their phone, it also seems more reasonable. They don't do any kind exercise and they eat like chit and are addicted to following the lives of others on social media. That kind of lifestyle puts you at high risk.Physics crew
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02-02-2017, 10:06 AM #19
This. The over-medicating in the US is insane. I felt unmotivated, depressed, etc. in early high school. I went to the doc and right away was placed on anti-depressants. It was not until I was older that I realized I could improve my symptoms through diet, different mentality, pursuing goals, etc. I do not doubt that SOME depression patients need meds to recover, but even them, they are meant to be a short-term solution. However, the MISC mentality of "suck it up snowflake" is not correct either. Like I said in my last post, if you have never experienced depression, anxiety, etc., congrats. But, I also hope that you NEVER do experience those disorders because you have the wrong mindset to correct them properly.
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02-02-2017, 10:08 AM #20
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02-02-2017, 10:09 AM #21
I try not to be too vocal about it these days, but I am diagnosed as having mental health issues by my doctors and a few teams of professionals in the past. Might have been brought on by abusing "stuff" earlier on in life. I'm not wanting to be a "Hey look at me I'm special" or "Treat me different" guy, but I accept there's something to it, to what all the doctors have told me over the years. I kind of hate it, I try to practice keeping it a secret but Have my moments. Only place I can talk in depth about my issues is in a setting where it's about these very issues like a group therapy session. I cut it out on social media, because it's too public, and I don't want drama on there.
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02-02-2017, 10:10 AM #22
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as a legit ocd sufferer nothing pisses me more of then people claiming they have the illness because "they are so organized" or "like to have things clean", but fail to grasp what its like to have unwanted thoughts going on in your head, growing up thinking your a freak because of what you do and think and being extremely self concious because no matter what you do its wrong in some way or another.
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02-02-2017, 10:16 AM #23
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I have diagnosed issues (obviously, I think at this point)
Personally I think the majority of the western world is mentally ill to varying degrees, just that some are more functional than others
I think basic things that people just say are people's "personalities" are actually a bunch of complexes and insecurities and issues that can definitely be counted as a mental illness. A diagnosis comes when the person stops being functional, usually struggling in work/unable to work/incarcerated - but if it were up to me I'd set the bar for functional a lot lower (it isn't cos of funding) because a lot of kids these days are being raised by parent's who while functional are damaging their kids mentally with inflicting their various complexes on their kidsIf I laugh, I rep
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02-02-2017, 10:20 AM #24
Thanks for the neg for being a "disabled cuck" didn't know an IED blast is the same as a depressive disability, strong logic brah. I stand by the suck it up. People are too quick to take the easy way out by taking medicines versus truly finding the underlying issues. There are a few that do truly need meds as I have a special needs child, but when I hear parents talk about what their kids do compared to mine I cringe on the amount of chit they have their kids on....
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02-02-2017, 10:22 AM #25
I have an amazing family life and don't get stressed out about school and I have anxiety. I consonantly worry about things going on in my life and my families life, my shoulders and chest feel a heaviness/strange feeling to them, top of my head hurts from worrying and overthinking, I dwell on things that happened months ago, I feel constant guilt for not that big of issues, always feel like people are judging me, have no confidence, always judging and 2nd guessing myself and my action and my anxiety causes me to studder sometimes when it feels like my brain is in overdrive. I'm not depressed because I love life but I do wish I could feel normal like other people. Random people think I'm very confident but I have none whats so ever
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02-02-2017, 10:26 AM #27
Oh for sure, and I apologize for my comment as I may have taken your post the wrong way - feel free to neg back please. Like I said in my earlier post, the over-medication is the biggest issue. BRB you can go to your family practitioner and get meds for anxiety and depression without even being evaluated and tested. However, this is not always the fault of the patient themselves. It is easier and faster to prescribe meds. But, the patient IS at fault if they believe that the med is treated as a quick fix and "cure" of their illness. For example, 3 members of my family are on anti-depressant meds and still exhibit symptoms of depression. Instead of changing their lives or even trying therapy, they choose to stick with the meds. If this is what you meant as "suck it up," then I agree - there should not be a "quick fix" for these disorders, and the patient themselves MUST make changes in their lifestyles to alleviate the symptoms.
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02-02-2017, 10:34 AM #28
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I see where you're coming from, but I think the problem lies in that the current generations are not being given the tools to deal with depression, anxiety, etc in a proactive manner. Instead of them being challenged to make positive changes for themselves, they are coddled and told that they are special and that they can be fixed with outside help, instead of having to make the changes for themselves. I think that's why there are so many "special snowflakes".
Of course some people are in serious need of help, but when 8/10 people can't learn to deal with their feelings, that's a problem.
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02-02-2017, 10:42 AM #29
You are not wrong. There has been research done that shows that praise CAN be harmful, especially if it is taken the wrong way. This the fault of teachers, parents, etc. Depression and anxiety should be used as tools to improve oneself, a motivator if you will. However, there are also people that suffer from depression and anxiety so bad that it is crippling to the point that they cannot even function correctly, but those people are not the 8/10 that the OP is referring to.
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