Estimating your TDEE
The average number of calories you expend per day is called your total daily energy expenditure (TDEE). To estimate it, it's easiest to use a TDEE calculator such as: https://www.freedieting.com/tools/ca...calculator.htm
Keep in mind this number is only an estimate. What your real TDEE is can be found out by monitoring your weight and calorie intake over time.
In order to maintain weight eat the amount of calories of your TDEE.
In order to gain weight add a moderate amount of calories to your TDEE, for example 300 calories.
In order to lose weight subtract a moderate amount of calories from your TDEE, for example 500 calories.
Adjust your intake based on what happens on the scale over time, for example one or two weeks. Keep in mind that your weight will fluctuate daily. This fluctuation can be up to several pounds. In order to minimise fluctuations weigh yourself first thing in the morning after visiting the toilet.
If you’d like to minimise weight fluctuations further consider tracking your weight with a moving 7 day average (a.k.a. rolling average) or a weekly average. How to calculate a weekly average or rolling average can be found on Google. There are a few smartphone apps that can do it for you, for example: Libra (Android) and Happy Scale (IOS).
Suggested rate of weight gain and loss
Losing weight too fast can result in muscle loss while gaining weight too fast can result in excessive fat gain. In order to avoid muscle loss and excessive fat gain, here are some suggestions.
Suggested rate of weight gain for an average beginning 170 pound lifter: about 2 pounds per month.
Smaller people and people who have been lifting longer tend to do better with slower rates of weight gain, say 1 to 2 pounds per month.
Suggested rate of weight loss for an average beginning 200 pound lifter: 1 to 2 pounds per week.
Smaller, leaner and/or more advanced lifters often do better on slower rates of weight loss, for example 1 or 1.5 pounds per week.
Keep in mind that the above numbers are merely suggestions. What the ideal rate is depends on the individual and his/her preferences.
Macronutrient Intake
Make sure that your diet meets the minimum protein and fat intake.
Protein minimum: 0.7 gram per pound of bodyweight (or target/ideal weight in the obese).
(for optimal body building purposes and during energy deficit higher intakes may provide additional benefits.)
Fat minimum: 0.4 gram per pound of bodyweight (or target/ideal weight in the obese).
Remaining caloric budget: whatever mix of macronutrients you prefer and/or allows you to perform and feel well. Some people do better on a higher carb intakes while other people do better on moderate or lower carb intakes. It is not necessary to set a specific numbers for each macro, what matters is that the total calories, minimum fat and protein are achieved.
Macro Percentages
Do not use macro percentages (for example 40/40/20). Your body does not care about percentages, it has minimum requirements.
Meal Frequency
General recommendation is to eat 3 to 6 protein containing meals (or shakes/snacks) spread over the day.
Some people get good results on lower meal frequencies but these are probably not optimal for gaining muscle.
Food quality and health
Your diet should contain enough macronutrients, micronutrients and fiber.
General recommendation for fiber:
Average male: 38 gram per day
Average female: 25 gram per day
As a general guideline for sugars try to keep added sugars limited to 10% of total calories or less. The sugars that are naturally present in whole fruits, vegetables and dairy do not fall under this rule, you can be much more liberal with those. Reducing added sugar intake to 5% or less may provide additional benefits.
Eating predominantly whole and minimally processed foods is generally a good idea. This doesn't mean that processed foods always have to be avoided. Processed foods can be part of a healthy diet. Focus on getting enough macronutrients, micronutrients and fiber.
A simple guideline for good health is to eat at least 500 grams of vegetables and fruit combined per day. Higher intakes likely provide additional benefits.
In order to get an idea of your micronutrient intake you can occasionally use the website www.cronometer.com. Keep in mind that it's not absolutely necessary to reach 100% of each micronutrient every day. I do not recommend checking your micronutrient intake daily, it’s not necessary.
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02-02-2017, 09:57 PM #2
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Nice and simple explanation... so pretty much a guarantee that no one who needs this info will use it. Great contribution once again though.
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Thanks for posting this. I am 35 and just started lifting 3 months ago and put on too much weight too fast I think (already +20lbs) because I wasn't tracking what I was eating. Looking forward to leveraging this to get a better plan going.
So what is the easiest way to track food, just create a list of everything you would like to eat and their macros and then just try to create some combinations that get you to your daily goal?
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Thanks Mrpb. I haven't been back here in a long time ... was a daily contributor to the nut. forum but have only got myself back into gear as of about 2 months ago. I'd say IIFYM was getting it's "Flexible dieting" label as I moved away from lifting.
Last time I was here, the research and consensus of protein intake was leaning towards the minimum of ~0.8g per lb of lean bodyweight i.e. it looked as though we were always overestimating the protein needed if muscle mass is the aim, and the research would eventually show us lower and lower needed intake as time went on.
Mrpb, I know you've outlined 0.8g per lb or bodyweight, but can you give some insight to that number for me? So I can catch up on what I've missed over the last 2 years. It looks like maybe we weren't overestimating the need for protein as much as once thought."Never attempt to train yourself into a caloric deficit. Don't spend hours on the treadmill. Diet comes first, cardio second. The dumbest fat loss strategy ever devised is used by people that wake up early in the morning before going to work to do cardio and follow that up with "recovery shake." Congratulations, you just wasted two hours of your life." Martin Berkhan
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Well a protein recommendation is always going to be arbitrary. I wanted to keep it simple and recommend one number that catches all situations: bulking, maintenance and cutting.
Why 0.8 gram per lb? It's probably a good number with a good safety margin for cutting. The science is explained here: http://bayesianbodybuilding.com/the-...-bodybuilders/
Keep in mind that Menno (the writer of the article) makes some good claims but also false claims. There are studies showing benefits for higher intakes than 0.8 gram per lb.
With all that being said:
1. 0.8 gram per lb is quite a high recommendation for the general public that likes to lift. During maintenance and surplus 0.6 gram per lb will likely do fine. I'm considering updating the recommendation to reflect this.
2. It is questionable if we should still recommend a protein intake per day based on body weight or LBM. Recent science is making a good case for recommending protein intake per meal, perhaps even independent of body weight. We need more science before we go this route though.
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Would you recommend a higher protein intake if trying to drop weight vs the 0.8 recommendation?
I find myself in a state of "what the f do I do" with my weight goal(s). I have some body fat I want to drop but when I do drop weight I tend to just look skinnier and lankier. I'm 6'2" and currently fluctuate between 218-220lbs. My training is focused on strength/powerlifting so maintaining that is of importance but as I've gotten older getting into better shape and a better body fat range is becoming a bigger goal.
How would you recommend approaching this in regards to maybe hitting a goal weight then working back up to "bulk"?My training log: https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=178464441
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Im not sure if im posting this in the right area, i just joined rather recently. I am 5' 8" 170 pounds. I have been managing a caloric defecit of -748 kal for 2 weeks. Meaning i consume maybe 1300 kal daily. I work out 6 times a week. Only one session of Cardio per week. My end goal is to be 158 pounds with lean muscle mass.
My macros are as follows:
Carbs: 150g
Fat: 35g
protein: 75-90 (fluctuates often)
I am worried that this may be too extreme. I do not feel any adverse effects from this nutrition plan, but i am worried that the hard work i put in at the gym wont matter if im losing the lean muscle mass because of a large caloric deficit. Can anyone give me their two cents on this? thanks.
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