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    Bodymedia/Bodybugg Alternative

    I wanted to purchase one of these, only to find out that they were discontinued last year. I know a lot of bodybuilders that loved the thing and found it to be very accurate. Does anyone know of any similar device that is just as accurate in regards to daily caloric expenditure?
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    http://www.mobihealthnews.com/conten...y-caloric-burn
    Study: Wearables' accuracy varies widely for caloric burn

    I tend to eat typically and adjust how much I eat over time to achieve a goal.
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    Originally Posted by EjnarKolinkar View Post
    http://www.mobihealthnews.com/conten...y-caloric-burn
    Study: Wearables' accuracy varies widely for caloric burn

    I tend to eat typically and adjust how much I eat over time to achieve a goal.
    I've been tracking my diet religiously. My metabolism just varies INCREDIBLY from day to day, so I have found it increasingly hard to maintain a healthy cut or lean bulk. The help from a wearable would just make things a whole lot easier. I wouldn't depend on it, obviously, since that'd be detrimental in the long term, but it'd definitely be a ton of help in my endeavors.
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    Originally Posted by Foxace36 View Post
    I wanted to purchase one of these, only to find out that they were discontinued last year.
    Good. Don't bother wasting your time, and money.

    Estimate and move on (even if trying to estimate expenditure was "optimal")
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    Originally Posted by ErikTheElectric View Post
    Good. Don't bother wasting your time, and money.

    Estimate and move on (even if trying to estimate expenditure was "optimal")
    Please refer to my previous post.
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    Originally Posted by Foxace36 View Post
    My metabolism just varies INCREDIBLY from day to day,
    No it doesn't
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    Originally Posted by desslok View Post
    No it doesn't
    Well, it just seems that on some days I lose weight at 3.8k cals, other days I'll gain weight at 2.5k. It's been impossible to properly track my TDEE.
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    Originally Posted by Foxace36 View Post
    Well, it just seems that on some days I lose weight at 3.8k cals, other days I'll gain weight at 2.5k. It's been impossible to properly track my TDEE.
    And any fitness device will not track accurately either; just best guess and adjust as best you can based on results.

    Losing weight means not eating TDEE.

    Gaining means eating over TDEE.

    Staying the same is eating TDEE.


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    Originally Posted by Foxace36 View Post
    Well, it just seems that on some days I lose weight at 3.8k cals, other days I'll gain weight at 2.5k. It's been impossible to properly track my TDEE.
    Based on your posts ITT, I think you need to learn the difference between TDEE/Metabolic rate.
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    Originally Posted by Foxace36 View Post
    I wanted to purchase one of these, only to find out that they were discontinued last year. I know a lot of bodybuilders that loved the thing and found it to be very accurate. Does anyone know of any similar device that is just as accurate in regards to daily caloric expenditure?
    Unfortunately there's nothing else on the market that is as accurate as the Bodybugg was. Everyone wants to wear fashionable wrist bracelets, and those things just can't pack the sensors that the Bodybugg had. Nobody bought the Bodybugg because it wasn't "stylish" and didn't pack a million useless "features," so sales went down the drain and they were bought out by Jawbone, who stole some of their tech and put it into their bulky UP bracelets. Users don't care about accuracy, they care about live heart rate, fancy displays, and pretty smart phone apps they can use to share the data with their friends.

    I'm in a similar boat as you. Some days my TDEE is 2300 and other days it's 3600+. I was often way off by hundreds of calories when I tried to guess my TDEE before checking the Bodybugg results. That thing made it a piece of cake to eat the appropriate amount, it was insanely easy to manage weight without any guesswork of whether you've eaten enough to gain muscle/too much and will gain fat. Since then, I've tried the Withings Activitι, Basis Peak, Misfit Shine, and Fitbit. All of it is garbage. The Fitbit was so bad it wouldn't register 2 hours of weight training as any physical activity whatsoever. Zero. I would be out all day, train for 2 hours and ride my bike for an hour, and it would report 2300 calories burned and 45 minutes of activity.

    An accurate tracker can help people who were formerly heavy and are prone to holding excess fluid the second they bump their calories up, making them feel like sh*t and like they're overeating, and making them second guess their TDEE. People who were always lean will never understand that it's hard for many people, especially those whose TDEE varies on a day to day basis, to eat just enough to build muscle without gaining much fat. They will usually be flip flopping between not eating enough and eating too much.
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    Originally Posted by desslok View Post
    No it doesn't
    What he meant to say was that his TDEE varies incredibly from day to day.
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    Originally Posted by MikeK46 View Post
    Unfortunately there's nothing else on the market that is as accurate as the Bodybugg was. Everyone wants to wear fashionable wrist bracelets, and those things just can't pack the sensors that the Bodybugg had. Nobody bought the Bodybugg because it wasn't "stylish" and didn't pack a million useless "features," so sales went down the drain and they were bought out by Jawbone, who stole some of their tech and put it into their bulky UP bracelets. Users don't care about accuracy, they care about live heart rate, fancy displays, and pretty smart phone apps they can use to share the data with their friends.

    I'm in a similar boat as you. Some days my TDEE is 2300 and other days it's 3600+. I was often way off by hundreds of calories when I tried to guess my TDEE before checking the Bodybugg results. That thing made it a piece of cake to eat the appropriate amount, it was insanely easy to manage weight without any guesswork of whether you've eaten enough to gain muscle/too much and will gain fat. Since then, I've tried the Withings Activitι, Basis Peak, Misfit Shine, and Fitbit. All of it is garbage. The Fitbit was so bad it wouldn't register 2 hours of weight training as any physical activity whatsoever. Zero. I would be out all day, train for 2 hours and ride my bike for an hour, and it would report 2300 calories burned and 45 minutes of activity.

    An accurate tracker can help people who were formerly heavy and are prone to holding excess fluid the second they bump their calories up, making them feel like sh*t and like they're overeating, and making them second guess their TDEE. People who were always lean will never understand that it's hard for many people, especially those whose TDEE varies on a day to day basis, to eat just enough to build muscle without gaining much fat. They will usually be flip flopping between not eating enough and eating too much.
    Originally Posted by MikeK46 View Post
    What he meant to say was that his TDEE varies incredibly from day to day.
    Thank you for beautifully summing up exactly what I needed to say/is my issue. It's really sad to know that even if I bought a Bodybugg off amazon/ebay, I read that they are still unable to be used. So essentially, I'm **** outta luck for now?
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    Originally Posted by Foxace36 View Post
    Thank you for beautifully summing up exactly what I needed to say/is my issue. It's really sad to know that even if I bought a Bodybugg off amazon/ebay, I read that they are still unable to be used. So essentially, I'm **** outta luck for now?
    Try some of them. Get them from places with a no questions asked return policy so you can return it if it doesn't work well. You might be able to find one that is consistently incorrect for you every time, which is the next best thing. If you know it's always just a few hundred calories short every day, for example, then that can be useful.
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    Originally Posted by gbullock32 View Post
    And any fitness device will not track accurately either; just best guess and adjust as best you can based on results.

    Losing weight means not eating TDEE.

    Gaining means eating over TDEE.

    Staying the same is eating TDEE.


    Simple.
    As inaccurate as it may be, in regards to fat loss, I actually notice I stall/plateau less when I use my fitbit as opposed to setting a caloric amount and making weekly adjustments. Maybe it's because those adjustments are more real time, or even just makes me more aware. Either way at least for me it works really well.
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    Originally Posted by MikeK46 View Post
    Try some of them. Get them from places with a no questions asked return policy so you can return it if it doesn't work well. You might be able to find one that is consistently incorrect for you every time, which is the next best thing. If you know it's always just a few hundred calories short every day, for example, then that can be useful.
    Any recommendations on which ones I should check out first?
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    Bumperino.
    Stop bumping, you got the answers...
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    Originally Posted by Foxace36 View Post
    Any recommendations on which ones I should check out first?
    Just do a search of fitness trackers and go from there.

    https://www.wareable.com/fitness-tra...group-test-960
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    Originally Posted by MikeK46 View Post
    Just do a search of fitness trackers and go from there.

    https://www.wareable.com/fitness-tra...group-test-960
    Thanks I went ahead and just got the FitBit Charge 2. Going to see if it's accurate/consistent at all for me, and then go from there. I have an entire month to get a full refund. Thanks for the advice!
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