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    What's The Best Way To Go About Learning A New Language?

    I am going to teach myself Swedish. All I know is some words and a few phrases. My grandparents were born there but don't really speak it since they came here so young. They know the basics and certain things, but not enough to teach.

    What have you guys done for learning a new language? Something like rosetta stone? tutorials? Classes? Just self teach?
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    i played video games and surfed the internet to learn english srs




    id say watch movies in swedish with subtitles on

    also, get a tutor till you learn the basics at least
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    I'm assuming living there is not an option as that would obviously be the number one way in short time. Rosetta Stone is okay, but I'd look into youtube channels and podcasts to see if there is a reputable one out there and then follow that. Self teach is good too. Your grandparents sound like they should at least know if your pronunciation is good. Also nearby colleges should have foreign exchange students and you can always see if one of them is willing to help out. They are usually excited anyone wants to learn their language since it's not a common one for someone here to want to learn.

    Edit: I did all of the above when learning Spanish, but with Korean I lived there before knowing it and didn't feel like trying much. Then when I came back I decided to learn more and books helped a lot along with free podcasts. Many are straight up dog chit, but when you find a good one just subscribe and follow along and you'll pick those up.
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    hey deadly

    get these two apps:
    Duolingo - great for immersion learning, syntax grammar etc
    Memrise - great for vocabulary

    start with those, you can do just 10 minutes a day, as long as you do it every day, you'll start picking chit up

    obviously, travelling there or hanging out with swedes is ideal, once you start to pick up some foundations

    but immersing yourself in media is great, once you've started learning some words

    buy a novel in swedish
    try to read a paragraph, see what you understand

    then run the whole thing through translate, then go back and read it again (without translate). proceed paragraph by paragraph, and every time read all the paragraphs you've done thus far.


    either being there or reading a book are great, because there's a big conceptual step in language-learning - if you sit there and say 'tak means thanks' and 'l means beer', you're just tying an abstract concept to another abstract concept. but man, if you can hold a beer and say 'l', you've picked it up. same thing with reading, when you read it, you draw a picture in your head, and learn chit so much more easily.





    also: if you're just learning a language for fun, that's kool. but swedish is probably one of the most impractical languages to learn, as they speak great english usually
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    I used Duolingo + Dictionairies + videogames + Subitled Political videos + Music lyrics in said language to learn new languages

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    Originally Posted by HairyCrotchGuy View Post
    i played video games and surfed the internet to learn english srs




    id say watch movies in swedish with subtitles on

    also, get a tutor till you learn the basics at least
    Yea I want to watch movies in swedish, but I need to learn the basics first to at least know what to look for. I am going to surf the internet though since that is an easy route

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    I'm assuming living there is not an option as that would obviously be the number one way in short time. Rosetta Stone is okay, but I'd look into youtube channels and podcasts to see if there is a reputable one out there and then follow that. Self teach is good too. Your grandparents sound like they should at least know if your pronunciation is good. Also nearby colleges should have foreign exchange students and you can always see if one of them is willing to help out. They are usually excited anyone wants to learn their language since it's not a common one for someone here to want to learn.

    Edit: I did all of the above when learning Spanish, but with Korean I lived there before knowing it and didn't feel like trying much. Then when I came back I decided to learn more and books helped a lot along with free podcasts. Many are straight up dog chit, but when you find a good one just subscribe and follow along and you'll pick those up.
    Awesome. going to do some digging then. Hopefully I can find a few good podcasts/youtube channels to help. And yea my grandparents know the pronunciation and were telling me about the tones and stuff in swedish.

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    I used Duolingo + Dictionairies + videogames + Subitled Political videos + Music lyrics in said language to learn new languages

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    was just placeholding


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    Originally Posted by moonstarrrrr View Post
    I used Duolingo + Dictionairies + videogames + Subitled Political videos + Music lyrics in said language to learn new languages

    Duolingo is something I'd recommend
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    Awsome. Going to check out duolingo then too.

    So basically duolingo +reading +videos/movies/shows with subtitles + whatever else.

    Hopefully I can be pretty fluent(ish) by the end of the year or next year.

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    Originally Posted by Brozart View Post
    hey deadly

    get these two apps:
    Duolingo - great for immersion learning, syntax grammar etc
    Memrise - great for vocabulary

    start with those, you can do just 10 minutes a day, as long as you do it every day, you'll start picking chit up

    obviously, travelling there or hanging out with swedes is ideal, once you start to pick up some foundations

    but immersing yourself in media is great, once you've started learning some words

    buy a novel in swedish
    try to read a paragraph, see what you understand

    then run the whole thing through translate, then go back and read it again (without translate). proceed paragraph by paragraph, and every time read all the paragraphs you've done thus far.


    either being there or reading a book are great, because there's a big conceptual step in language-learning - if you sit there and say 'tak means thanks' and 'l means beer', you're just tying an abstract concept to another abstract concept. but man, if you can hold a beer and say 'l', you've picked it up. same thing with reading, when you read it, you draw a picture in your head, and learn chit so much more easily.





    also: if you're just learning a language for fun, that's kool. but swedish is probably one of the most impractical languages to learn, as they speak great english usually
    Oh I see what you meant by place holding. Repped either way.

    Great advice brah. srs. Going to basically follow this step by step haha. ANd I answered it below, but yea I have my grandmother's sister that lives in Sweden, and very few relatives, but I think it would be cool to learn it for when I visit and meet them for the first time. Plus I want to routinely visit Sweden over the years.

    I just really like the nordic/viking culture and the swedish culture in general. Learning the language is just cool to me. Plus I listen to a lot of old nordic music too as weird as that is.
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    I'm not fluent but from months of practicing and reading around I understand how the process goes pretty well. This is 100% legit and I've spoken with a lot of people who taught themselves languages and I've learned the bulk of Spanish very quickly with this process(around 8 months with 30-60 minute practice a day.)

    1.) Learn the grammar of a language. Get a grammar book and read it constantly until you understand the verb-noun relation, clauses, pronouns, positioning, syntax, ect. This will also teach you the bulk of commonly used sentencing words. Think of the grammar book as a new math you're learning, don't question the rules or try to relate it to english just learn how its suppose to look

    2.) Practice your grammar skills in a program like Duolingo or anyother grammar resource to test yourself

    3.) Use and consume the language. Listen to the language you're trying to learn constantly (Watch TV with subtitles of english and the language you're learning is helpful), speak it to others who speak it at any time you can (there are free resources to do this) write down words and sentences in that language, try to think in the language. And most importantly - READ. Read the language often this is probably the most effective thing you can do after you've learned the grammar. Step 3 is an ass, the first 2 can be done in weeks, this part will take years

    The words and vocab will come secondary after you get the base of the language down. You have to be doing all 4 aspects. Reading it, hearing it, speaking it and writing it.

    Anything beyond this is a waste of time and cope.
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    Oh I see what you meant by place holding. Repped either way.

    Great advice brah. srs. Going to basically follow this step by step haha. ANd I answered it below, but yea I have my grandmother's sister that lives in Sweden, and very few relatives, but I think it would be cool to learn it for when I visit and meet them for the first time. Plus I want to routinely visit Sweden over the years.

    I just really like the nordic/viking culture and the swedish culture in general. Learning the language is just cool to me. Plus I listen to a lot of old nordic music too as weird as that is.
    yeah man cool as fuk to speak to someone in their own language. especially as an american (also applies to aus/UK), people never expect you to speak their language, so they're always positively surprised.

    they're kinda nice languages imho. i reckon my favourite in scandinavia is danish (to the swedes, danish is speaking swedish with a mouthful of marbles).


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    yeah man cool as fuk to speak to someone in their own language. especially as an american (also applies to aus/UK), people never expect you to speak their language, so they're always positively surprised.

    they're kinda nice languages imho. i reckon my favourite in scandinavia is danish (to the swedes, danish is speaking swedish with a mouthful of marbles).


    have fun bro!
    Haha i like the danish comparison. Appreciate the help again boyo. Btw are you swedish?
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    I'm not fluent but from months of practicing and reading around I understand how the process goes pretty well. This is 100% legit and I've spoken with a lot of people who taught themselves languages and I've learned the bulk of Spanish very quickly with this process(around 8 months with 30-60 minute practice a day.)

    1.) Learn the grammar of a language. Get a grammar book and read it constantly until you understand the verb-noun relation, clauses, pronouns, positioning, syntax, ect. This will also teach you the bulk of commonly used sentencing words. Think of the grammar book as a new math you're learning, don't question the rules or try to relate it to english just learn how its suppose to look

    2.) Practice your grammar skills in a program like Duolingo or anyother grammar resource to test yourself

    3.) Use and consume the language. Listen to the language you're trying to learn constantly (Watch TV with subtitles of english and the language you're learning is helpful), speak it to others who speak it at any time you can (there are free resources to do this) write down words and sentences in that language, try to think in the language. And most importantly - READ. Read the language often this is probably the most effective thing you can do after you've learned the grammar. Step 3 is an ass, the first 2 can be done in weeks, this part will take years

    The words and vocab will come secondary after you get the base of the language down. You have to be doing all 4 aspects. Reading it, hearing it, speaking it and writing it.

    Anything beyond this is a waste of time and cope.
    yup seems to be the common theme of how to learn a language. I figured I would have to practice grammar first, like I did with french, and then the rest is just consistently consuming in on many levels. Pretty excited now that I have an idea of what path to follow. Didn't want to be spinning my wheels for a year trying to learn it in an inefficient way.

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    Haha i like the danish comparison. Appreciate the help again boyo. Btw are you swedish?
    nah bruh, born in aus. family been here for a long time, mostly german/irish heritage. lived in a couple different countries, but never sweden.

    have travelled a bunch, including denmark/sweden, managed a backpackers hostel, and know people from there. so i'm not an expert on sweden, but i'd say i have a better general knowledge of countries/languages than most.
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