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    Thumbs up Why Steph Curry Is An Elite Defender



    das it mane. the footage to back up the numbers

    *numbers are slightly old but they hold for the most part more or less.
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    Say whatever that makes you sleep well sweet prince.
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    He's not. End of thread.
    Originally Posted by RogerSterling i workout for my health, dont feel the need to eat if i'm not hungry since i still get plenty of puss being the weight i am now.

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    If he is as great of a defender as you claim, Just tell Kerr to let him defend for the whole game guys like Westbrook, lillard or cuckrie.
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    I just don't bother talking defense with anyone regarding Curry. I think he's a very good defender when I watch games, but people go very heavily based on reputation when it comes to defense because it is so difficult to quantify. Most people already set their mind on Curry being a bad defender without needing to see him play a game because he isn't physically imposing. Ricky Rubio is an example of IMO a really elite defender who also suffers from preconceived reputation based on appearance.

    It just doesn't even matter much either way, because whether his defense is bad or elite, your point guard defense isn't going to be a major impact on your team defense either way (assuming they properly abide by their team's scheme without falling asleep). Replacing Curry with a "better" defender at point guard isn't going to improve the team defense significantly. I actually think it might hurt the defense, because basketball isn't played in a vacuum and everything that happens on offense (how much energy each player is expending, how involved they are, what their role is) will have an impact on the opposite side of the ball. If you can make a team of defensive roleplayers and 1 offensive superstar into an elite offense, then that offensive superstar will help your defense by helping your offense and allowing those other players to do what they can do on the floor.

    So at the end of the day, the only people who really care are when they want a reason to arbitrarily rank a player in a certain spot in top 10 lists etc. No warriors fan and no Warriors coach or player has any concern about Curry's defense.
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    Originally Posted by RogerSterling i workout for my health, dont feel the need to eat if i'm not hungry since i still get plenty of puss being the weight i am now.

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    Originally Posted by waddupi View Post
    If he is as great of a defender as you claim, Just tell Kerr to let him defend for the whole game guys like Westbrook, lillard or cuckrie.
    just shutdown cp3 to the tune of 4/16 shooting and locked up kyrie both times they played.
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    Originally Posted by sdballer5588 View Post
    He's not. End of thread.
    why? because you said so? the footage and numbers say he is.
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    Originally Posted by BeastModeFTW View Post
    just shutdown cp3 to the tune of 4/16 shooting and locked up kyrie both times they played.
    Last time I checked, he only guards his man when klay is out meaning only 20% of the time. If you are so confident about curry's defensive prowess, just tell Kerr to let him go against Westbrook, cp3 etc for an entire game.
    Lillard lighted his ass up with 50pts not even 2 months ago. But yeah you are right, he defends even better than kawhi.
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    Originally Posted by BeastModeFTW View Post
    why? because you said so? the footage and numbers say he is.
    You not realize why this is a fallacious argument? I could show you numbers that Kobe Bryant is nowhere near a top 10 all time player. Would you suddenly lend credence to that argument because I found numbers that support that theory?

    Of course not you jackass. You linking a bball breakdown vid and an excel speadsheet is the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen.

    Curry is not an elite defender. He is ON an elite defense.
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    Originally Posted by waddupi View Post
    Last time I checked, he only guards his man when klay is out meaning only 20% of the time. If you are so confident about curry's defensive prowess, just tell Kerr to let him go against Westbrook, cp3 etc for an entire game.
    Lillard lighted his ass up with 50pts not even 2 months ago. But yeah you are right, he defends even better than kawhi.
    guess the last time you checked must have been a long time ago considering he just guarded cp3 the entire second half and 85% of the game last week. also funny how you say dame lit curry for 50 when dame scored 21 of his 51 points in the 4th quarter (Curry didn't play at all in the 4th). also nobody is comparing his defense to kawhi. kawhi is way better defensively. different scopes of elite. curry is an elite defender for his position while kawhi is the best defender in the game.
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    Originally Posted by sdballer5588 View Post
    You not realize why this is a fallacious argument? I could show you numbers that Kobe Bryant is nowhere near a top 10 all time player. Would you suddenly lend credence to that argument because I found numbers that support that theory?

    Of course not you jackass. You linking a bball breakdown vid and an excel speadsheet is the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen.

    Curry is not an elite defender. He is ON an elite defense.
    oh look deflections and ad hominem like usual.
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    Watch a guy like Avery Bradley defend and then watch Curry defend and tell me they are the same level.
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    If hes such a great defender then why does Kerr always put Steph on the least active player on offense?
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    Originally Posted by BeastModeFTW View Post
    oh look deflections and ad hominem like usual.
    You have no idea how to argue anything, you just unironically deflect EVERY. SINGLE. POST. that dissects why you are just logically incorrect. This is why you bow out of 99% of threads looking like a tater tot.
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    If hes such a great defender then why does Kerr always put Steph on the least active player on offense?
    curry guarded cp3 the entire second half and 85% of the game last week. nice try tho.
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    Originally Posted by BeastModeFTW View Post
    guess the last time you checked must have been a long time ago considering he just guarded cp3 the entire second half and 85% of the game last week. also funny how you say dame lit curry for 50 when dame scored 21 of his 51 points in the 4th quarter (Curry didn't play at all in the 4th). also nobody is comparing his defense to kawhi. kawhi is way better defensively. different scopes of elite. curry is an elite defender for his position while kawhi is the best defender in the game.
    Elite defender? Last time (I think, maybe second to last) GS played OKC, Curry tried guarding Westbrook on the first possession and got embarrassed when he drove right past Curry without even trying for the easy 2. Curry then switched to Dion Waiters for the rest of game lmao

    Try naming a single elite defender that switches off the best player to play the worst one after getting burned. They don't exist, because elite defenders have egos the size of the moon. You think Tony Allen would have said "nah brah I don't want any of that, where's Waiters at?"
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    Yeah and this is basically why it's not worth having back and forth's about Curry's defense. It's not a quantifiable thing so you'll just have people who already made up their minds and have watched much less than you have just say "nah" without giving any thought or even watching the video from the OP

    Not worth the discussion, defensive reputation is pretty rarely the same as reality, especially for perimeter players.
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    Originally Posted by Kane_89 View Post
    If hes such a great defender then why does Kerr always put Steph on the least active player on offense?
    Das it. Maybe he is afraid his golden boy might get exposed.
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    Originally Posted by sdballer5588 View Post
    You have no idea how to argue anything, you just unironically deflect EVERY. SINGLE. POST. that dissects why you are just logically incorrect. This is why you bow out of 99% of threads looking like a tater tot.
    says the guy who isn't posting any facts/no footage/no anything to back up his opinion. just his word as if he's just some basketball scholar when he's just some ******* lebronie. phuck off you pos *******. you're wrong 90% of the time. you already exposed as yourself as knowing jack chit when you continue to double down on your kawhi is a role player rhetoric. last month you said the heat were garbage. lmao what do we know since that time the heat have the second best offense in the league and have been great. you were wrong like usual. of course you never admit you are wrong you just double down on your bullchit.
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    Originally Posted by BeastModeFTW View Post
    curry guarded cp3 the entire second half and 85% of the game last week. nice try tho.
    Lol No, Kerr was hiding Curry on CP3 to avoid putting him on Reddick.

    Reddick would light Currys ass up for 40, easily
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    Originally Posted by tonyparker69 View Post
    Elite defender? Last time (I think, maybe second to last) GS played OKC, Curry tried guarding Westbrook on the first possession and got embarrassed when he drove right past Curry without even trying for the easy 2. Curry then switched to Dion Waiters for the rest of game lmao

    Try naming a single elite defender that switches off the best player to play the worst one after getting burned. They don't exist, because elite defenders have egos the size of the moon. You think Tony Allen would have said "nah brah I don't want any of that, where's Waiters at?"
    He is the only point guard in the league who doesn't guard the opposing point guard. Even Kyrie guards opposing point guards. But some retards dare calling him elite defender.
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    Originally Posted by Day1086 View Post
    Yeah and this is basically why it's not worth having back and forth's about Curry's defense. It's not a quantifiable thing so you'll just have people who already made up their minds and have watched much less than you have just say "nah" without giving any thought or even watching the video from the OP

    Not worth the discussion, defensive reputation is pretty rarely the same as reality, especially for perimeter players.
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    Originally Posted by BeastModeFTW View Post
    says the guy who posts no facts/no footage/no anything to back up his opinion. just his word as if he's just some basketball scholar when he's just some ******* lebronie. phuck off you pos *******. you're wrong 90% of the time.
    Are you a basketball genius because you literally just parroted bball breakdowns opinion as your own? Have you EVER formed an original thought?

    I'm confused where you pull these numbers. Wrong 90% of the time? Curry guarded Paul 85% of the game? Where are you pulling these numbers? Your butt?
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    Originally Posted by Kane_89 View Post
    Lol No, Kerr was hiding Curry on CP3 to avoid putting him on Reddick.

    Reddick would light Currys ass up for 40, easily
    what? so guarding the opposing team's best player and opposing point guard when your position is point guard is considered hiding these days? the thing is if curry was guarding reddick then you would just be saying that kerr is hiding curry on reddick because cp3 would just light him for 40/15. damn curry is such a scrub for not being able to guard 2 guys at once.
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    Originally Posted by BeastModeFTW View Post
    what? so guarding the opposing team's best player and opposing point guard when your position is point guard is considered hiding these days? the thing is if curry was guarding reddick then you would just be saying that kerr is hiding curry on reddick because cp3 would just light him for 40/15. damn curry is such a scrub for not being able to guard 2 guys at once.
    Kerr isnt stupid, Reddick wouldve run Curry through a million screens all game and CP3 was quiet that game, so he kept him on Paul instead of Reddick.
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    Originally Posted by sdballer5588 View Post
    You not realize why this is a fallacious argument? I could show you numbers that Kobe Bryant is nowhere near a top 10 all time player. Would you suddenly lend credence to that argument because I found numbers that support that theory?

    Of course not you jackass. You linking a bball breakdown vid and an excel speadsheet is the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen.

    Curry is not an elite defender. He is ON an elite defense.
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    Originally Posted by BeastModeFTW View Post
    of course you never admit you are wrong you just double down on your bullchit.
    How many times have you made this exact thread..?

    Nobody outside of the Warrior fanbase believes Curry is an elite defender. Get over it.
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