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    Placebo controlled study on regrowing hair using an Essential oils blend (GTFIH srs)

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9828867

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    - 7 month study conducted on the efficacy of external application of a blend of essential oils in regrowing hair
    - Those receiving active treatment used a blend of the following essential oils: cedarwood (2 drops, 94 mg), lavender (3 drops, 108 mg), rosemary (3 drops, 114 mg) and thyme (2 drops, 88 mg) in a carrier oil mix of jojoba (3 mL) and grapeseed (20 mL)
    - Placebo group just applied the carriers oils (jojoba + grapeseed)
    - 63 out of 84 subjects completed the entire 7 months
    - 44 percent (16 of 35 patients) of those receiving the active treatment significantly improved, while 15 percent using placebo improved. (P = 0.008). The average area of hair regrowth with the essential oils was 104 square cm compared with nearly zero for those using placebo.

    - is 44% impressive? Yes, compared to the alternatives. This is about the same response rate dermatologists expect with standard medical therapies such as Finasteride, and Minoxidil (Rogaine), except with nowhere near the same risk of side effects. Also less expensive.

    From The September 2000 Issue of Nutrition Science News

    by Richard N. Podell, M.D.

    Essential Oils Can Help Regrow Hair
    So much importance is placed on appearance in this society that retaining one's hair borders on obsession. Regardless of the cause—be it genes, hormones, drugs or illness—hair loss can cause anxiety and stress. The number of national television ads for hair-growth drugs speaks volumes about the market for regrowth remedies. Thus, a treatment that offers moderate hair growth and no significant side effects could be a boon. Enter four promising essential oils.

    Isabelle C. Hay and colleagues from the Aberdeen Royal Infirmary in Scotland saw several cases of alopecia areata, a type of hair loss that causes patchy baldness, improve after patients used herbal treatments. Unlike male pattern baldness or hair brittleness, alopecia is a condition that affects men and women of all ages, and is most likely caused by an immune system inflammation that affects areas of the scalp. Stress often precedes an alopecia outbreak. Standard medical therapies, including corticosteroid injections, are only modestly helpful. Most, but not all, patients eventually improve or recover.

    External application of various herbal essences is believed to benefit those who suffer hair loss due to alopecia. Among these are cedarwood (Cedrus atlantica), lavender (Lavandula angustifolia), rosemary (Rosmarinus officinalis) and thyme (Thymus vulgaris), all of which have been used to treat alopecia for more than a century. However, no double-blind studies have been conducted to evaluate the efficacy of these herbs until now.

    Hay and researchers recruited 84 people with diagnosed alopecia areata. During the seven-month trial, participants suspended use of topical or oral alopecia medications. Instead, half used a blend of cedarwood (2 drops, 94 mg), lavender (3 drops, 108 mg), rosemary (3 drops, 114 mg) and thyme (2 drops, 88 mg) in a carrier oil mix of jojoba (3 mL) and grapeseed (20 mL). The placebo group used just the carrier oils. Subjects were taught to rub the oil into the bare areas of their scalp for two minutes each evening and then to wrap a warm towel around their head to enhance absorption.

    Professional photographs of each patients' scalp were taken at baseline, three and seven months. Changes as seen in the photographs served as the primary outcome measure. Outcomes were also measured by mapping bald patches and measuring severity of alopecia with a four-point scale. Of the 84 patients who entered the trial, only 63 completed it—35 from the active group and 28 from the control group.

    Of those receiving active treatment, 44 percent (16 of 35 patients) significantly improved, while 15 percent (6 of 28 patients) using placebo improved. The essential oils had a statistically significant advantage (P = 0.008). The average area of hair regrowth with the essential oils was 104 square cm compared with nearly zero for those using placebo.1

    One male patient with alopecia areata as well as severe male pattern hair loss saw improvement in both areas after using the essential oil blend.

    These results suggest that one or more of the essential oils are biologically able to promote hair growth. While promising, confirming studies are needed before we can be sure. However, is a 44 percent response rate worth the effort? According to the authors, this is about the same response rate dermatologists expect with standard medical therapies. To the herbs' benefit, however, they are less expensive, require fewer doctor visits and have a low risk of side effects.

    Future research must explore which of the four herbs had the most effect or if they work in tandem. Also open for exploration is whether increasing the concentration of the most active constituents would increase response rates. Dose is also worth researching. Perhaps twice daily treatment would be more effective than once daily.

    While this type of research on herbal remedies is encouraging, only one of five dermatologists I unofficially surveyed could remember seeing this study, although all five read the American Medical Association-sponsored journal that was open-minded enough to publish it.

    Richard N. Podell, M.D., M.P.H., is director of the Podell Medical Center in New Providence, N.J.

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    1. Hay I, et al. Randomized trial of aromatherapy—successful treatment for alopecia areata. Arch Dermatol 1998;134:1349-52.
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    I feel like stressing over hair loss is the leading contributor to hair loss.
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    Potent estrogens. Surprised they don’t recommend a supplemental dose of arimidex to offset the estrogen spike you’ll likely experience by promoting absorption
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    Originally Posted by stevemckenna View Post
    I feel like stressing over hair loss is the leading contributor to hair loss.
    well that and genetics and diet and inflammation and DHT.

    Cortisol (hormone produced when stressed) is linked with hair loss but I don't think the source of the stress would matter as much as the magnitude for spiking cortisol
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    Originally Posted by quadfecta View Post
    Potent estrogens. Surprised they don’t recommend a supplemental dose of arimidex to offset the estrogen spike you’ll likely experience by promoting absorption
    I found information suggesting rosemary and lavender oil being anti-androgenic but couldn't find much on the rest. Their primary benefits seem to be related to being anti-fungal/anti-microbial/anti-bacterial and helpful in fighting inflammation. Of course the number one way to fight inflammation is probably to cut out grains and excessive sugar from your diet.

    Grape seed oil apparently has estrogen inhibiting properties.

    Good point though nonetheless, will try to do blood work before and after starting
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    Coconut oil will do the same thing
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    Originally Posted by Evolutionary1 View Post
    Coconut oil will do the same thing
    yea so I've heard. But this was an actual study. Might add coconut oil to the stack once I get my hands on some. Have read decent things about it.

    My current stack is black seed oil, rosemary oil, clove leaf oil, olive oil, garlic cloves, and an egg mask treatment once every few days (to give the hairs protein). Just started 4-5 days ago, hair looks silky af.

    Was using onion juice as well but was too much of a hassle.
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    If you‘ve been Norwood 2 forever and rub it on the regressed part it could potentially grow back? Or is it just for relatively recent hair loss?
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    Have you looked into micro-needling/derma-rolling? Microneedling + minoxidil is far superior to just minoxidil alone since it allows greater penetration. I'd suspect microneedling+essential oils has a similar effect.
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    is there any research being done on making follicles resistant to dht? or transplant methods where you don't already have to be like at least nw3?

    been on fin for 2 days now and don't really feel anything out of the ordinary but tbh I just don't like the idea of messing with hormones. felt encouraged when I saw a few baldcels outside tho.

    there's gotta be something besides messing with hormones, fuking up your skin (minoxidil) and getting reaped until you can get a transplant.
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    yea so I've heard. But this was an actual study. Might add coconut oil to the stack once I get my hands on some. Have read decent things about it.

    My current stack is black seed oil, rosemary oil, clove leaf oil, olive oil, garlic cloves, and an egg mask treatment once every few days (to give the hairs protein). Just started 4-5 days ago, hair looks silky af.

    Was using onion juice as well but was too much of a hassle.
    none of this crap will work in the long run, you can't defeat the reaper with a buncha vegetable oils
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    If you‘ve been Norwood 2 forever and rub it on the regressed part it could potentially grow back? Or is it just for relatively recent hair loss?
    hmm good question. Define forever? I think it wouldn't matter. Hair lost is hair lost. The study does support growth of new hair so that should be your cue. If you never ever had hair in that area I doubt you could ever grow hair there but if you did, then your odds are better. I'm guessing it's the latter it is referring to when saying new hairs. The roots just go stagnant.

    Just based on my current stack my hair is already looking silky as fuukkk brah.
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    Originally Posted by faketaxidriver View Post
    is there any research being done on making follicles resistant to dht? or transplant methods where you don't already have to be like at least nw3?

    been on fin for 2 days now and don't really feel anything out of the ordinary but tbh I just don't like the idea of messing with hormones. felt encouraged when I saw a few baldcels outside tho.

    there's gotta be something besides messing with hormones, fuking up your skin (minoxidil) and getting reaped until you can get a transplant.
    Originally Posted by faketaxidriver View Post
    none of this crap will work in the long run, you can't defeat the reaper with a buncha vegetable oils
    essential oils*

    have faith, this is it fella. Read the cliffs. Plus I see stories all over a few forums of people, much like us miscers, but instead of obsessing over dick size, height, frame, and norwood, they only care about norwood have a mega thread and multiple people reported success stories. Plus the study is pretty nice too. I'd bet the success rate with fin isn't any higher than 44% either.

    As for follicles, I don't think there is anything yet to make it DHT resistant.

    DHT is in itself not the problem. It's DHT with inflammation in the scalp. Inflammation is from diet, and whether or not your scalp faces the consequences of inflammation is genetic. Cut out grains and junk (sugar) from your diet to fight inflammation such as yeast candida overgrowth. Healthy gut bacteria helps as well.
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    From The September 2000 Issue of Nutrition Science News

    by Richard N. Podell, M.D.

    Essential Oils Can Help Regrow Hair
    So much importance is placed on appearance in this society that retaining one's hair borders on obsession. Regardless of the cause—be it genes, hormones, drugs or illness—hair loss can cause anxiety and stress. The number of national television ads for hair-growth drugs speaks volumes about the market for regrowth remedies. Thus, a treatment that offers moderate hair growth and no significant side effects could be a boon. Enter four promising essential oils.

    Isabelle C. Hay and colleagues from the Aberdeen Royal Infirmary in Scotland saw several cases of alopecia areata, a type of hair loss that causes patchy baldness, improve after patients used herbal treatments. Unlike male pattern baldness or hair brittleness, alopecia is a condition that affects men and women of all ages, and is most likely caused by an immune system inflammation that affects areas of the scalp. Stress often precedes an alopecia outbreak. Standard medical therapies, including corticosteroid injections, are only modestly helpful. Most, but not all, patients eventually improve or recover.

    External application of various herbal essences is believed to benefit those who suffer hair loss due to alopecia. Among these are cedarwood (Cedrus atlantica), lavender (Lavandula angustifolia), rosemary (Rosmarinus officinalis) and thyme (Thymus vulgaris), all of which have been used to treat alopecia for more than a century. However, no double-blind studies have been conducted to evaluate the efficacy of these herbs until now.

    Hay and researchers recruited 84 people with diagnosed alopecia areata. During the seven-month trial, participants suspended use of topical or oral alopecia medications. Instead, half used a blend of cedarwood (2 drops, 94 mg), lavender (3 drops, 108 mg), rosemary (3 drops, 114 mg) and thyme (2 drops, 88 mg) in a carrier oil mix of jojoba (3 mL) and grapeseed (20 mL). The placebo group used just the carrier oils. Subjects were taught to rub the oil into the bare areas of their scalp for two minutes each evening and then to wrap a warm towel around their head to enhance absorption.

    Professional photographs of each patients' scalp were taken at baseline, three and seven months. Changes as seen in the photographs served as the primary outcome measure. Outcomes were also measured by mapping bald patches and measuring severity of alopecia with a four-point scale. Of the 84 patients who entered the trial, only 63 completed it—35 from the active group and 28 from the control group.

    Of those receiving active treatment, 44 percent (16 of 35 patients) significantly improved, while 15 percent (6 of 28 patients) using placebo improved. The essential oils had a statistically significant advantage (P = 0.008). The average area of hair regrowth with the essential oils was 104 square cm compared with nearly zero for those using placebo.1

    One male patient with alopecia areata as well as severe male pattern hair loss saw improvement in both areas after using the essential oil blend.

    These results suggest that one or more of the essential oils are biologically able to promote hair growth. While promising, confirming studies are needed before we can be sure. However, is a 44 percent response rate worth the effort? According to the authors, this is about the same response rate dermatologists expect with standard medical therapies. To the herbs' benefit, however, they are less expensive, require fewer doctor visits and have a low risk of side effects.

    Future research must explore which of the four herbs had the most effect or if they work in tandem. Also open for exploration is whether increasing the concentration of the most active constituents would increase response rates. Dose is also worth researching. Perhaps twice daily treatment would be more effective than once daily.

    While this type of research on herbal remedies is encouraging, only one of five dermatologists I unofficially surveyed could remember seeing this study, although all five read the American Medical Association-sponsored journal that was open-minded enough to publish it.

    Richard N. Podell, M.D., M.P.H., is director of the Podell Medical Center in New Providence, N.J.

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    1. Hay I, et al. Randomized trial of aromatherapy—successful treatment for alopecia areata. Arch Dermatol 1998;134:1349-52.
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    Noted. I'd contest that it's hard for us average non specialized people to have a great guess on the exact classification for the type of hair loss.

    Regardless, I'd argue that all long term hair loss over a gradual period with no unreasonably unusual event that severely affects the scalp would have multiple common denominators.

    It appears inflammation, DHT in scalp, and dht sensitivity and response to inflammation in the scalp are all common tragedies behind hair loss.
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    Originally Posted by LordMU View Post
    Have you looked into micro-needling/derma-rolling? Microneedling + minoxidil is far superior to just minoxidil alone since it allows greater penetration. I'd suspect microneedling+essential oils has a similar effect.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3746236/
    Awks was tryna rep on phone no clue what I wrote. Hit enter by mistake.

    But yea I've heard about this before but hadn't really considered incorporating it with the external application. Might do this but it's risky for me since I have seborrheic dermatitis flare ups
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    I see pickle and onion juice being mentioned in a lot of alopecia areata and eyebrow stuff.
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    dutasteride + minoxidil. Everything else is cope. Trust me I've been down this path
    Studies show that Rosemary oil in isolation is more effective than minoxidil
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    lavender has estrogenic properties, and is antiandrogenic, so it would hypotheticly block DHT like many of the meds. So it would have as many, or more of the drawbacks as the hair-loss meds.

    Have you tried to shave it? Some men look hot AF with a shaved head.
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    Originally Posted by DassItMan View Post
    Studies show that Rosemary oil in isolation is more effective than minoxidil
    lol all those studies with oils n chit are done on rats. You could piss on a rats back and it would regrow hair. It's all cope.


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    Have you tried to shave it? Some men look hot AF with a shaved head.
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    lol all those studies with oils n chit are done on rats. You could piss on a rats back and it would regrow hair. It's all cope.




    ^ He's right OP, why take advice for a female who likes the D when you can get advice from men who like the D I'm out
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    Originally Posted by dj924s View Post
    lavender has estrogenic properties, and is antiandrogenic, so it would hypotheticly block DHT like many of the meds. So it would have as many, or more of the drawbacks as the hair-loss meds.

    Have you tried to shave it? Some men look hot AF with a shaved head.
    Yea but external application bro, has to be safer than finasteride. Plus it's unclear how much of an effect it has on the entire body by just applying to your scalp right. I do understand the DHT aspect but unlike those medications this doesn't just target DHT. The primary mechanisms at play appear to be anti inflammatory, and anti fungal/microbial. Based on my research DHT alone is not the problem, it's only an issue when it's accompanied by inflammation and scalp sensitivity to inflammation. Attacking DHT directly and hard exclusively like fin does seems to be like throwing the baby out with the bathwater except more so just throwing out the baby and keeping the bath water.

    As for shaving it... this is getting a bit personal but I had a Redditor photoshop my head bald and I was petrified. I also can project what I would look like based on my childhood memories as my parents would force me to go bald as a kid in the summers because God forbid a child express themselves.

    Aside from that, wrt the personal bit, God has challenged me a lot in life. I've dealt with things growing up I wouldn't wish any child to go through and it's caused me a lot of damage that I'm still en route to recovering. But I believe I resemble in some capacity a dog. I don't give a **** I just keep going and going and refuse to just accept outcomes because of upbringing or genetics.

    Plus the thought of shaving my head every few days to stay bald is horrifying to me. The time investment involved in shaving every few days to come across as an "idgaf" type is ironically a much more insecure thing to do and requires way way way more effort than whatever people do to maintain their hair. There is no "letting go" and "freedom" by going bald. It's a constant pain in the front deltoid along with a constant weekly reminder of your insecurity which manifests by you acting like you don't care and aren't shallow and "being the change you want to see" when you pick up that God forsaken razor every Monday morning and go to work. Sorry for all the detail and over analysis. I am certainly on some kind of spectrum, I think things to a deep level in ways others don't always do because they are normal well adjusted people.
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    Originally Posted by BigNik78 View Post
    I see pickle and onion juice being mentioned in a lot of alopecia areata and eyebrow stuff.
    I've done research on it too but I dont think it works. I've tried alot of things and basically I'm giving up on actively trying to regrow my hair until a more effective drug comes out.
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    Originally Posted by dj924s View Post
    ^ He's right OP, why take advice for a female who likes the D when you can get advice from men who like the D I'm out
    not all not all but most men look like chit with a shaved head and you know that gurl
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